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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Who is God?
« on: March 26, 2009, 01:44:11 PM »
Question: Who then is God?

Maharshi: The Self is God. ‘I AM’ is God. If God be apart
from the Self, He must be a Self-less God, which is absurd.
All that is required to realize the Self is to BE STILL.
What can be easier than that? Hence Atma-vidya is the
easiest to attain.


Dear Subramanian,

Your post is so true!

We have been believing the Aryan Dravidian Theory so long and this is being taught in school text books as well. But a recent study states that the Aryan Dravidian was a misconception between the Black and White mentioned in the Vedas, whereas the Vedas meant the Good Qualities as white and Black as Bad Qualities. Whereas the Theory divided the Aryan and Dravidians! The word Aryan only means a "noble" soul not white coloured as the theory states.

The Theory says that there was a battle between the whites and blacks and hence the Aryans pushed the Blacks down south and they occupied the northern area of Bharat. Infact the Vedas were only mentioning the war between the Demons and Devas.

This theory has misguided the entire world and created barriers and our politicians used it as an excellent issue to arouse passion and hate among people.

Who is the Authority!?

This is only because of Kali Yuga mahima!


Dear Udai,

What you said is true. I found it illustrated by Bhagawan as below

Question: One has at times vivid flashes of a consciousness whose
centre is outside the normal self, and which seems to be
all-inclusive. Without concerning ourselves with
philosophical concepts, how would Bhagavan advise me
to work towards getting, retaining and extending those
rare flashes? Does Abhyasa in such experience involve

Maharshi: Outside! For whom is the inside or outside? Those
can exist only so long as there are the subject and object.

For whom are these two again? On investigation you will
find that they resolve into the subject only. So, who is the
subject? This enquiry leads you to pure Consciousness
beyond the subject.

The very first verse in Avadhoota Gita is as follows:

Ishwaranugrahagevam Punsaamadvaitavaasana
Mahadbhyaparitranam Vipranaamupajaayate

It is only through the Grace of God that in men with
knowledge is born a desire to experience cosmic unity (Advaita),
a desire which protects them from the great dangers of samsara.


General topics / Ayodhyapuri
« on: March 26, 2009, 01:03:03 PM »
Once, on being asked by sage Bhardwaj and few others about the grandeur of Ayodhya, Sutji replied--' Ayodhya,
a sacrosanct city is based on the bank of river Saryu. It is the very city where the famous king Ikshavaku ruled
once upon a time. The term Ayodhya means unconquerable and consists of three root letters: a- symbolizing
Brahma, y-symbolizing Vishnu and dh-symbolizing Rudra. It is a place where lord Vishnu has his abode for
eternity and does not leave it even for a moment. According to the scriptures Ayodhya is based on Sudarshan
chakra. It is well expanded in the radius of one yojan. Its eastern boundary stretches up to one yojan from a place
called 'Sahastradhan'. Similarly, the western front stretches up to one yojan from a place called 'Sama', the
southern up to one yojan from the bank of Saryu and its northern boundary up to one yojan starting from the bank
of river Tamsa. In ancient times, a brahmin named Vishnu Sharma had performed an austere penance at
Ayodhya. Lord Vishnu had appeared after becoming pleased by him and had created a holy place by digging up
the earth with his Sudarshan chakra. Anybody, who takes a holy dip in Chakrateerth becomes absolved of all his


General topics / Pitiable Conditions of Gopi's in God's absence
« on: March 26, 2009, 12:57:41 PM »
After the disappearance of God, Gopis were perplexed. Their hearts burned with desire. They had
dedicated their entire selves in the feet of Lord. They were entirely merged in the love of Krishna. Thus
driven by passion, Gopis began to search Lord Krishna. They asked trees, creepers and vegetation for
the whereabouts of their beloved. They then spotted His footprints at one place. Footprints of Radha
were also there. 'Indeed He would have carried her, that great fortunate one, on His shoulders.' They
thought. Lord had indeed, after disappearing from amidst Gopis, taken Radha to an isolated place. She
had then began to think herself superior to other Gopis. So at one place, she said: "O Lord, I can't walk
now. My tender feet are tired. Kindly carry me on your shoulders to wherever you wish." At her request,
Lord Krishna agreed to carry her on his shoulder. But as soon as she proceeded to ride, Lord
disappeared from there also. Now, Radha began to cry and wail and fainted. At the same time, other
Gopis also reached there and found Radha lying unconscious on the ground. All of them including
Radha then returned to the bank of Yamuna and began to wait for Krishna's appearance.


General topics / The Battle of Gods and Demons
« on: March 26, 2009, 12:54:02 PM »
Rig, Sama and Yajurveda are like the clothes of Hindu society. Those who give them up are in fact
naked. This statement is endorsed by the following tale:

Once upon a time, a battle occurred between the demons and the gods. It lasted for one hundred years at the end
of which period, the demons defeated the gods. The humiliated gods reached Ksheersagar and prayed Lord
Vishnu. Pleased by their prayers, Lord Vishnu appeared before the gods. All the gods greeted Him and said- "O
Lord! In sheer violation of Brahma’s dictate, formidable demons have kidnapped even our due shares offered in
the oblations. Protect us from the onslaught of the demons. We cannot fill them because they abide by their
religion. Kindly show us a way to kill the demons."

Hearing the pleas of the gods, Lord Vishnu produced Mayamoha from His body and giving them to the
gods, said- "Mayamoha will cause illusion in the minds of the demons. The illusion will influence the
demons to violate the path shown by the Vedas. You can kill them after that". Saying this, the Lord
disappeared. The gods took Mayamoha and reached the abode of the demons.


General topics / Re: How to pray to one's mother and others?
« on: March 26, 2009, 12:49:54 PM »
Dear Subramanian,

Its an excellent post!

Really if we follow this each time the Bhavam comes automatically, for mother, Guru, God and others.

Whether or not we pray intentionally or not, when we keep our palms as guided, the Bhavam comes automatically


Dear Subramanian,

What you have said is very true. But today we are amidst such confusion, we have Sastras in one hand, the Government in one hand, the westernization of culture has modified what is acceptable and what is not. We have millions of Gurus (including all religions) in this Kali yuga, there is such deterioration! There is no way out! today one cannot say what is the Dharma of the day! what is right and what is wrong!

Its like the eternal confusion - should one live like Sri Rama or Sri Krishna!  :) Both are impossible


General topics / Badarikashram
« on: March 26, 2009, 12:41:25 PM »
Once, on being asked by the sages about the greatness of Badrikasharam, Sutji narrated the same tale, which
Lord Shiva had once told sage Narad -

Lord Mahadeva had told Narad that altogether there were one lakh and twenty-five thousand mountains and
Badrikashram was supreme among them. Lord Mahadeva said - Badrikasharam is the abode of Lord Nara -
Narayan. Narayan - the origin of all creations has four arms and his complexion is dark. Narayan manifests himself
in both forms - Sakar as well as Nirakar. He is the eternal Purusha and is worshipped by people during the full
period of Uttarayan. Since Badrikashram is covered with snow during the period of Dakshinayan, Narayan is not
worshipper during these six months. All the deities dwell at Badrikasharam. The sages live in their hermitages at
Badrikasharam. River Alaknanda flows at Badrikasharam. Anybody taking a dip in the holy water of Alaknanda


General topics / Re: Veda Vyasa of each Kalpa
« on: March 26, 2009, 12:34:20 PM »
We have come across some facts in our Ramanyana and Mahabharatha etc.. which states that Sri Rama ruled Ayodhya for 20000 years etc...
I read in some book that in old days, poets had some penchant for the number 1000. 1000 years signifies 4 years actually. Therefore when Rama ruled Ayodhya for 20000 yeards, he has actually ruled exactly for 80 years. Similarly the Yuga calculations etc.. must also have some inspiration behind the number of years. Maybe if we could calculate the 1000 years = 4 years, we could get the realistic number!


General topics / Why is Lotus is in the Navel?
« on: March 26, 2009, 12:28:32 PM »
The third virtue of Lord Vishnu is that he bears a lotus on his navel,hence he is also known as Padmanabham.
From the lotus rises Lord Brahma. Brahma has only royal virtues (Rajoguna). Thus to remain in peaceful form
Lord Vishnu has discarded all the royal virtues through his navel. Similarily he has made the snake, which has
Tamoguna (virtue of darkness), his seat, Thus only Satoguna (Virtue of the truth) remains with him, and God
became Shantakaram (acquired a peaceful form). Hence, if a worshipper wishes to be in peaceful form, he must
first discard the virtues of royality and darkness.


General topics / Re: Rudram and Chamakam
« on: March 25, 2009, 11:01:20 PM »
Dear Vinita,

Its a very beautiful shloka full of meaning and Bhavam. Tulasidas's works are in such simple Hindi that as we read the Shloka, we are able to imbibe the essence then and there! if one continuously keeps chanting these shlokas, the Bhavam, the love for the Self will intensify and it will definitely inspire one in realizing the Self.

This is what is called Bhakthi Rasa.


Dear Silentgreen,

True, deep interest on the Self alone will pull the Ego like a magnet and merge into itself!

someone asked, “Swami, how can we find the Self (Atma)?”

Bhagavan replied: “You are in the Self; so how can there be any difficulty
in finding it?”

“You say that I am in the Self, but where exactly is that
Self?” the questioner persisted.

Bhagavan replied: “If you abide in the heart and search patiently you will
find it,”


The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: The Car Example
« on: March 25, 2009, 05:50:09 PM »
Excellent example Dear Udai and nice addition to it Dear Subramanian!


Devotee: When I concentrate, all sorts of thoughts arise and
disturb me. The more I try, the more thoughts rise up. What
should I do?

Bhagawan: Yes, that will happen. All that is inside will try to come
out. There is no other way except to pull the mind up each time
it wants to go astray and fix it in the Self.

Devotee: Bhagavan has often said that one must reject other
thoughts when one begins the quest; but thoughts are endless.
If one thought is rejected another comes up and there seems to
be no end at all

Bhagawan: I do not say that you must keep on rejecting thoughts.
If you cling to yourself, to the ‘I’ thought, and your interest
keeps you to that single thought, other thoughts will get rejected
and will automatically vanish.

Whatever else I read, understand, etc... finally I land up again here
in this who am I enquiry. we need to thoroughly understand this
for this alone is our key to unlock ourselves form prison!

Why cant we continuously cling on to the 'I' as mentioned by