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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Saints / Devotees
« on: February 25, 2010, 08:59:32 AM »
Dear I,

Thanks for posting the account abut Sri Anandamayi Maa, she is absolutely another Ramana Maharshi, very inspiring is her life, same compassion as I see in Ramana!

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Can I take Sannyasam?
« on: February 25, 2010, 08:56:32 AM »
Bhagavan in Ulladu Naarpadu, 24 says -

The body which is matter says not ‘I’. Eternal Awareness
rises not nor sets. Betwixt the two, bound by the body, rises
the thought of ‘I’. This is the knot of matter and Awareness.
This is bondage, jiva, subtle body, ego. This is samsara,
this is the mind.

Leaving this or casting this is true Sanyasam, It might be a debatable topic as to what does this "Leaving/casting off" really mean!

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4518
Dear I,

आत्मसाक्षात्कारप्रकरणम् - Atma Sakshatkara Prakaranam appears in सर्वज्ञानोत्तरा - Sarava Jnanottara, an ancient text from the Sanskrit Saiva Agamas. Here, spiritual instruction is imparted to Guha or Subrahmanya by Iswara - Siva himself.

Bhagavan rendered this prakaranam into Tamil verses some years after his similar versification of देविकाळोत्तरा - Devikalottara absolutely spontaneously without even referring the original sanskrit version during his Virupaksha days.

The Ashramam publication is available with Bhagavan's original own handwriting.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4519
Dear I,

Yes, the above post is a dialogue between Kapali and Bhagavan and is penned by Kavyakantha, it appears in Sri Ramana Gita.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4520
कपाल्युवाच​
विषयी विषयो वृत्तिरितीदं भगवंस्रिकम् ।
ज्ञानिनां पामराणां च लोकयात्रासु दृश्यते ॥


Oh Bhagavan, in the every-day life of both the jnani and the ignorant, one observes the triad, subject, object and cognition

अथ केन विशेषेण ज्ञानी पामरतोऽधिकः ।
इमं मे नाथ सन्देहं निवर्तयितुमर्हसि ॥

By what special attribute then, is a jnani superior to the ignorant, one? Oh Lord, may you be pleased to clear this doubt of mine.

भगवानुवाच​
अभिन्नो विषयि यस्य स्वरूपान्मनुजर्षभ ।
व्यापारविषयौ भातस्तस्याभिन्नौ स्वरूपतः ॥

For one to whom the subject is not different from the Self, the object and the cognition also do not appear different from the Self

विभिन्नो विषयी यस्य स्वरूपदभिमानिनः ।
व्यापारविषयौ भातस्तस्य भिन्नौ स्वरूपतः ॥

For one to whom, owing to attachment, the subject is different from the Self, the object and the cognition too appear different from the Self.

भेदाभासे विजानाति ज्ञान्यभेदं तु तात्त्विकम् ।
भेदाभासवशं जत्वा पामरस्तु विभिद्यते ॥

Even in this seeming difference, the jnani perceives the essential unity. The ignorant one, caught in the seeming difference considers himself separate.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4521
वैदर्भा उवाच​
अभ्यासकाले भगवन् वृत्तिरन्तर्बहिस्तथा
यातायातं प्रकुर्वाणा याते किं ज्ञानमुच्चते (7 - 4)

Bhagavan, during practice the mind goes and comes, in and out. Is the in-going of the mind called jnana

भगवानुवाच​
अन्तर्याता मतिर्विद्वन्बहिरायाति चेत्पुनः ।
अभ्यासमेव तामाहुर्ज्ञानं ह्यनुभवोऽच्युतः ॥ (7 - 5)

Oh learned one, if the mind having once gone in comes out again, it is only practice. For Jnana is the experience which never slips away

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4522
निरस्य विषयासंगं मनोवृत्तिं विवर्जयेत् ।
यदा आयाति उन्मनीभावं तदा तत् परमं सुखम् ॥ (40)


Discarding all desire for objects, Destroying the modes of the mind,
The non-dual state of being the One, When the mind ceases to be, Is the one called the Supreme bliss.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4523
न एव चिंत्यं न च अचिन्त्यं अचित्तं चित्तं एव तत् ।
पक्षपात विनिर्मुक्तं आत्मानं पर्युपासयेत् ॥ (37)


The Self is not something that can be thought of, nor is it something that cannot be thought of, It is not thought itself, -
What does not lean towards any of the above, The supreme that is the Self, meditate upon it ever.

अचिन्त्यं चिन्तयेत् नित्यं कृत्वा चित्तं निराश्रयम् ।
निस्तत्वे निष्कली भूते विन्दति  आत्मनि यत् सुखम् ॥ (38)

Meditate ever on that Which is beyond the reach of the mind Allowing no refuge for the mind.
The joy that is attained in abundance in that Self, That is beyond all verities and complete.

निर्विकल्पं अचिन्त्यं च हेतु दृष्टान्त वर्जितम् ।
तत् सुखं परमं प्रोक्तं आत्यन्तिकं अनौपमम् ॥ (39)

Without any differences, and beyond the reach of thinking, Without any precedent , Without anything similar, That which is the utmost frontier and extolled as the Supreme Bliss, Be immersed in It.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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अभावः भावं आश्रित्य भावं कुर्यात् निराश्रयम् ।
आत्मसंस्थं मनः कृत्वा न किंचित् अपि चिन्तयेत्॥ ॥ (36)


The Self is without thought, make it impossible for the thought-oriented (mind) to think at all.
Cause the mind that thinks to get settled on the Self,
Let not the mind think of anything else.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4525
Ashrams / Re: Pilgrimage to arunachala
« on: February 21, 2010, 04:21:53 PM »
Dear I,

Yes, there is ample car parking space available at Sri Ramanashramam. it is a good idea to make the journey by car, there are a lot of places of interest in and around Arunachala.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4526
Dear I,

Thank you for sharing this incident.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4527
I have read in some book about Bhagavan's second death experience in 1912, I think in Virupaksha cave. I request some one to share some light on this incident.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4528
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / What is Atma
« on: February 21, 2010, 08:56:50 AM »
I visited Bhagavan he was living at the foot of the hill. He was seated on a couch and about a dozen devotees were sitting on the bare floor. We sat in silence for ten minutes and returned to the town. Bhagavan’s presence gave me the experience of inner silence and mental stillness, but away from him I could not regain it and I spent a year vainly trying to free myself from all thought. But soon I got a chance to visit Tiruvannamalai. I met Bhagavan the same day. The next day after the midday meal Bhagavan was explaining a verse from the Bhagavad Gita to Sri Yogi Ramaiah. As no one else was in the hall, I gathered courage and asked, “What is Atma? Is it the limitless ether of space or the awareness that cognizes
everything”? Bhagavan replied, “To remain without thinking this is Atma and that is Atma, is itself Atma”. He looked at me and I felt my mind melt away into nothing. No thought would come, only the feeling of immense, unutterable peace.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4529
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Lessons from the Kitchen
« on: February 21, 2010, 08:54:55 AM »
Perhaps, Bhagavan's most poignant lessons can be learnt in the way he conducted the entire process of cooking and serving, here is one recollection from Smt. Varanasi Subhalakshmiamma:

Several times I was invited to work in the kitchen, but I felt that the Ashram ways were not orthodox enough for me. One day Bhagavan’s own sister asked me to take her place in the Ashram kitchen as she had to leave for some time. I could not refuse. Though I was very happy to work in the kitchen directly under Bhagavan’s supervision I wanted to go home. I left and after a year returned to Ramanasramam to discover that I belonged there. Yet I would feel restless, thinking that I should spend my time in meditation. One day Bhagavan looked at me intently and said “It looks as if you are still hankering after meditation”. I replied, “What have I got except endless work in the kitchen”? Bhagavan said with deep feeling, “Your hands may do the work but your mind can remain still. You are that which never moves. Realise that and you will find that work is
not a strain. But as long as you think that you are the body and that the work is done by you, you will feel your life to be an endless toil. In fact it is the mind that toils, not the body. Even if your body keeps quiet, will your mind keep quiet? Even in sleep the mind is busy with its dreams”.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Lessons from Kitchen
« on: February 21, 2010, 08:51:03 AM »
He would allow nothing to go to waste. Even a grain of rice or a mustard seed lying on the ground would be picked up, dusted carefully, taken to the kitchen and put in its proper tin. I asked him why he gave himself so much trouble for a grain of rice. He said, “Yes, this is my way. I let nothing go to waste. In these matters I am quite strict. Were I married no woman could get on with me. She would run away”. On some other day he said, “This is the property of my Father Arunachala. I have to preserve it and pass it on to His children”. He would use for food things we would not even dream of as edible. Wild plants, bitter roots and pungent leaves were turned under his guidance into delicious dishes.

What a wonderful lesson this is! Not only in Arunachala, we in our daily lives, have so much in abundance, overflowing food, material and money, etc... How much care we should take here afterwards? We should incorporate minutest of Bhagavan's teaching into practice, as much as possible without hurting others, practicing Ahimsa of the highest order.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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