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Dear I,

Thank you for this WONDERFUL post. This post is "Pokkisham" (Tamil) "Treasure". I am going to make myself a wonderful copy this post and laminate it with Ramana picture beside the points and hang it in my room and "I" am going to make it a habbit to read it everyday and try and put it into practice.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

General topics / Re: dear sadhaks whats with your body?
« on: May 03, 2010, 07:19:00 PM »
dear nagaraj

your answer is the highest teaching one can recieve, and I have recieved it, and you see here Iam still carring a name and doing sadhana :)

...why? I dont know

anyway it is the truth what you say so Iam thankfull for reminding me.

Dear I,

What you have raised though is a very thought provoking enquiry. But the only thing on can do is to remain at peace with awareness about the awareness of "...why? I dont know"

Just become aware of every reaction the mind has to offer and simply remain aware about it. What we try and do is to try adding a little bit of kerosene, petrol or diesel, ... analyse what the mind has got to offer. But you sure know that whatever mind perceives and thinks, gets desperate, you are not going to get nearer to the truth, for you yourself are verily the Truth itself.

The Mind simply gets impatient.

Just remain aware. Be aware about all the mind has got to offer and simply remain, ignore the calls of mind, just be.

At most what one can do is to just become aware of the fact of our own ignorance. The Mind tries to ascertain itself, but of no avail!

Be aware, just be

Salutations to Sri Ramana

General topics / Re: dear sadhaks whats with your body?
« on: May 02, 2010, 09:44:27 PM »
You are not different from body. You and Body are a Whole.

Why the difference is perceived? why does the mind want to stick to ideas about the body, the 'I'

Its analysis about body is but itself, its analysis about the eternal I is again but itself. You, O entity analysing, rest in peace as the eternal Self, as it is, there is nothing to change or understand or become or attain!

It is interesting to note that Bhagavan always responded to devotees by saying them that the grace is within themselves and not otherwise. He also shows his grace to devotees by very subtly telling that it is not even because of Himself as well but it is only the grace of Self alone; from within.

"your firm conviction brought you here"

The greatness of Bhagavan is that even His most casual response is so potent; is a Upadesa. He very subtly enlightens the devotee that it is not even because of any external force or some external grace, the conviction is the grace from within, the Self has brought him here. He very subtly frees the devotee even from Himself. arouses in him totally ekaatma Bhava.

We all know, how he enlightened Annamalai Swami, who never even visited Bhagavan. He only visited him on His Mahanirvana. He sincerely contemplated constantly on the essence Bhagavan's responses to him. Such was his devotion.

Like how we need a thorn to pick another thorn, a Guru, first makes the seeker attached to His Guru, and when a devotee thus gets attached to his Guru, Guru appears externally as grace as another thorn to remove the thorn inside (Ego) and then eventually, when the Guru (thorn) takes away the thorn - ego, then Guru (thorn) frees you from even from Himself.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

No words to write about Bhagavan, just silence...

Who are you, O' Ramana ?
You have pulled me into abyss of compassion,
Your glance is the highest grace
What are you O' Ramana ?
You are indescribable, You are!
Watching you is watching Aatma itself

and while watching Bhagavan, there is no Sadhana involved,
Watching him itself is perhaps what they call Samadhi

You are so mysterious, I don't find any words to know you.

Silence. Maunam.

Unnaye Maartri odadulathinmel urudiyayiruppaai Ramanaachala
Stay firmly in my mind, O Ramanaachala, and keep watch, so that this mind of mine may not change even you into me and the world and wander away from you, the Real.

Saappaadu unnai Chaardunai Vaaiyaan Chaandamaai povan Ramanaachala
Let me, you prey, Surrender and be cnsumed by you O Ramanaachala, and so have peace

Salutations to Sri Ramana

General topics / Re: What do I know about my body?
« on: March 31, 2010, 11:00:21 AM »
Socratus once told - All that I know, is that I know nothing

Truly wonderful,

I feel, Samatvam is the real teaching of Bhagavan and even Self enquiry only comes afterwards, which is hyped much by the intellectuals, but simplicity and samatva is the real essence of Bhagavans life.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

General Discussion / Finding Self
« on: March 31, 2010, 10:48:47 AM »
Dear I's

Bhagavan always guided devoteed to find their Self through Self Enquiry.

I just felt, practicing compassion, Samatvam among fellows would lead to the Self (faster) and spread compassion. It is becomming more and more alive every moment, even feeling for the ants that are running around on your floor, becomming aware as to not stamp them, feeding the hungry animals and spreading only compassion - Samatva. not hurtiung people around us, not hurting them for their stupidity, allowing the process of grinding to take place on its own and not impossing the so understood gained knowledge upon them, etc... bearing insults and not responding back with hate, not fighting, beiung ever slow and compassionate like Bhagavan Ramana himself.

Remembering each moment how Bhagavan would react to this moment and imbibing Ramana Consciousness is the way

Self Enquiry and its discussion should be purely internal, and its analysis are not going to take any one closer to Self but only breeds discussions after discussion.

Be Compassionate.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

One night, a dog was barking loudly in the rear of the ashram. Bhagavan, who was sleeping in the hall, got up and told his attendants , "I think a saint has come to the Ashram in the form of a dog. He must be hungry. Please go to the kitchen and see if any food is there. Bring water and food." The attendants went to the kitchen and got some food and water. Bhagavan took the food and water to the place where the dog was, placed the food and water in front of him and came back to the hall. This saint who had come in the dog's form ate the food and happily went away. Nobody saw him again.

Bhagavan, later exclaimed, "It was some 'Siddha' (saint) who had taken the form of a dog and had come and they do not wish to make themselves known. That is why they come like this."

Salutations to Sri Ramana

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / limiteless compassion
« on: March 31, 2010, 10:33:04 AM »
It was very cold winter season. One night there was no electricity. Petromax lights were lighted. Then the devotees noticed that two sparrows were sitting in front of the petromax light and warming themselves. Bhagavan's attendant  wanted to close the windows of the hall to ward off cold draft which was blowing. Bhagavan stopped the attendant by saying, "No, don't close the windows! These sparrows have come to protect themselves from the cold. For them there are  no blankets as we have. Let them stay here. Whenever they want to fly out, they can go out through the windows. Do not trouble them", so saying Bhagavan showed his solicitude for the sparrows. Bhagavan had 'Samabhavatvam' for all creatures high or low. He would say "The sparrows also have the same consciousness, 'Atma', like human beings. Only the forms are different"

Can there be anything much sweeter than remembering or reading Bhagavan's Compassions that is limitless. His compassion makes one get "Romancha" or closely translated as goosebumps?   (as said by Narada in his Bhakti Sutras)

Allthough, as much I try to imbibe Bhagavans compassion, samatva Bhaavam, I still fall short, there is so much duality still in me! Even if I am aware of such duality, I try and not act according to such perspective, but still the duality lingers within, what is the use of outward Samavtva and inside Vaishamya

All that I can utmost do is to just become aware of such fact and allow the dust to settle down.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

General topics / Re: Meditation technique
« on: March 26, 2010, 01:05:07 PM »
Dear I,

The literal meaning of the Sanskrit word 'Guru' is that which is heavy or that which is of profound impact. Etymologically Guru means remover of darkness. Infact gurutatva belongs to the profoundest of the five divine functions (pancakrityas) vis.Srishti (creation), Stithi (sustenance), Samhara (destruction or devolution), Tirodhana (veiling) and Anugraha (grace). Gurutatva belongs to the anugraha mandala. What does anugraha mean? It is the power which makes a mature soul to come in contact with an illumined master. Its operation is infallible and it confers the greatest blessing on the jiva by kindling the inherent jnana (self knowledge). Thus through bestowal of Brahmavidya it  releases the jiva from the hypnosis of maya. In most of the cases this power of grace manifests through the personality of an external teacher. This contact is similar to the phenomenon of lighting a lamp. As we light a lamp only from an already burning one, so too the disciple gets illumined from the enlightened master. Usually the guru is compared with the legendary Chintamani which can convert any metal into gold. But Adi Sankara says in his Satasloki that Chintamani is an inferior simile. Chintamani can only convert the metal into gold. It cannot convert the metal into Chintamani itself. But guru does that alchemy. He transfigures the disciple into his own likeness through Atmajnana. The experience of the self deals a death blow to the disciple's ignorance and makes him transcend all dualistic perceptions; even the guru ceases to be an external phenomenon. "The infinite self alone shines forth, neither the guru nor the sishya, neither the teaching nor the scripture, neither you nor me, neither this world. Only that ever auspicious self remains! The one without a second! That alone am I!" (Dasasloki), roared Sankara that too right in front of Govinda Bhagavatpada.

(Thoughts shared by Nochur)

Salutations to Sri Ramana

Registration disabled / Re: Registration is disabled on this Forum
« on: March 25, 2010, 10:55:22 PM »
Dear Sri Graham,

This is inevitable. I think its a very good decision or initiative. Its a call of the times.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

General Discussion / Re: dissatisfaction good or bad
« on: March 17, 2010, 08:38:40 PM »
It is all process of the grinding that is happenning. just dont worry about these. There is no point in controlling ones feeling be it satisfaction or dissatisfaction. If we are dissatisfied, it is so happenning because of our prarabdha. what is the point in telling/consoling ourselves by saying to ourselves "dont be dissatisfied"

One has to eat chillies to know the taste of chillies. and once when we have eaten it, we have to carry on by drinking water to ease the tongue, similarly, by remembering the Self or God or mananam or smaranam etc...

I just feel, it all happens accordigly, there is no free will at all. our only free will is to go towards the Self, meanwhile the Prarabdha will carry on, satisfaction dissatisfaction etc...

Just Be, Silent, Letr what happen happen... Lets move on (towads) the Self

Salutatrions to Sri Ramana

Ashrams / Re: Hyderabad shri ramana kendram address
« on: March 17, 2010, 10:41:43 AM »
Dear I,

You can contact this telephone No. as given in the official website for further details:

Sri Ramana Kendram – Hyderabad – Andhra Pradesh.    +91-40-27424092

Salutations to Sri Ramana

General topics / Re: Who am I? and What am I?
« on: March 17, 2010, 09:44:17 AM »
Dear I,

It doesn't really matter, what ever expression you are comfortable with, just carry on with it, eventually, that will lead you to the 'I'

Who am I, or What am I - the underlying essence just shouts the same thing - about this - 'I'

I would say, just don't get stuck in these grammatical expressions... It doesn't really matter in the enquiry of/about 'I'

Whos is the 'I' enquiring about the expression of who am I or what am I. Who am I to whom these thoughts are arising to?

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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