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4291
Dear I,

even now as i read your post, i went back to my visit to Madurai, Chokka Nayiakar street, I remained speechless, to be in 'the' place, it was very cautious steps that i took, upwards in those holy steps. I couldn't believe myself, where am I? words cant express further.... I just couldn't make it to Thiruchuzhi...

I too wish prayerfully, to be present there on that momentous day of september first, i am very happy that in a very small way i share my birthday on my beloved gurus' arrival to His Home - Arunachala.

Stop deceiving me, testing and proving me, O Arunachala
and henceforward reveal to me instead, your form of light. (32)

Salutations to Sri Bhagavan

4292
it was in 1896, about 6 weeks before I left Madurai for good (to go to Tiruvannamalai - Arunachala) that this great change in my life took place. I was sitting alone in a room on the first floor of my uncle's house. I seldom had any sickness and on that day there was nothing wrong with my health, but a sudden violent fear of death overtook me. There was nothing in my state of health to account for it nor was there any urge in me to find out whether there was any account for the fear. I just felt I was going to die and began thinking what to do about it. It did not occur to me to consult a doctor or any elders or friends. I felt I had to solve the problem myself then and there. The shock of the fear of death drove my mind inwards and I said to myself mentally, without actually framing the words: 'Now death has come; what does it mean? What is it that is dying? This body dies.' And at once I dramatised the occurrence of death. I lay with my limbs stretched out still as though rigor mortis has set in, and imitated a corpse so as to give greater reality to the enquiry. I held my breath and kept my lips tightly closed so that no sound could escape, and that neither the word 'I' nor any word could be uttered. 'Well then,' I said to myself, 'this body is dead. It will be carried stiff to the burning ground and there burn and reduced to ashes. But with the death of the body, am I dead? Is the body I? It is silent and inert, but I feel the full force of my personality and even the voice of I within me, apart from it. So I am the Spirit transcending the body. The body dies but the spirit transcending it cannot be touched by death. That means I am the deathless Spirit.' All this was not dull thought; it flashed through me vividly as living truths which I perceived directly almost without thought process. I was something real, the only real thing about my present state, and all the conscious activity connected with the body was centered on that I. From that moment onwards, the "I" or Self focused attention on itself by a powerful fascination. Fear of death vanished once and for all. The ego was lost in the flood of Self-awareness. Absorption in the Self continued unbroken from that time. Other thought might come and go like the various notes of music, but the I continued like the fundamental sruti note ["that which is heard" i.e. the Vedas and Upanishads] a note which underlies and blends with all other notes."

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4293
Dear I,

very nicely put... instantaneous!

4294
Dear I,
Thank for your comments on Miracles Do Happen.  I would like to
continue this serial, but for the Bhagavan's Will that I do only
responses and not any new posts.  Further I have to read these
serial posts quickly [I do not have any hard copy of any of my
posts & responses] so that I do not repeat them.  Let us look
forward to Bhagavan Will.

I fully agree with your sentiments that only devotion takes us
closer to Bhagavan Ramana.  This devotion which is mother of
Jnana should take us to self enquiry and then eventual realization.  Bhagavan Ramana also started with Sri Arunachala
Stuti Panchakam and then ended up with Vivekachoodmani and
ULLadu Narpadu.  I think that is the correct way to approach
Bhagavan Ramana's way also.   

Sometimes, I even feel, let me even cast off all these enlightenment business and just soak myself in his limitless compassion, soak myself in the memory of all those wonderful events of Sri Bhagavan that emanates unbelievable compassion, that will even melt the hardest of hardest rocks! no need to read, no need to do anything, just remain watching his ever potent picture continuesly.

I am able to see him everyday, that is enough!

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4295
I think I have written some posts about Rangan, Sab Jan, and
Bhagavan's teacher who came to see Him many years later.  Bhagavan Ramana has behaved with Rangan without any reservation as if He were old Venkataraman. Both of them went to some tank in the Hill and swam for sometime.  Bhagavan as usual, jumped from a height and while falling into the water, kicked Rangan, as He was doing in the past!  Rangan was quite pleased with Him and slowly he asked Bhagavan in a low guilty tone:  "Bhagavan! You are doing everything as you were doing before. You say you have attained Brahman.  Then.... can such people marry also?"
Bhagavan Ramana smiled and said:  "Hmmm....[meaning, why not?."

Many years later Rangan's son submitted a poem to Bhagavan,
titled:  "Sri Ramana Jnana Vivaham."

I met during one of my visits one Mrs. Banu Ramachandran, Rangan's daughter's grand daughter, in the Asramam.   


Its really very nice reading this, especially, being a friend to one who goes to become the greatest of Jnanis, how would it feel to persons like Sri Rangan? and how his heart would have felt talking to Bhagavan later? and how nice of Bhagavan to play with Rangan the same way?

So much warmth, compassion, divine...

Can any person show compassion, love more than Sri Bhagavan? phew, am not even able to get a grasp of his limitless compassion. So divine.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4296
I request any of the devotees to throw some light on devotees like Sri Rangan, Bhagavan's classmate, what was their reaction, after Bhagavans realisation? Bhagavan had so many friends. when Rangan came to Bhagavan later and asked Him, "O Bhagavan, atleast to me, you could have told, that you have attained Brahman?" Bhagavan replied to him saying that "I did not know what I had landed onto, I thought, I had caught some very pleasing disease"

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4297
Dear I,

I just conveyed the same what Sri Subramanian has conveyed. The fear of applying Advaita to a Guru can only happen during ones Sadhana, where one is still yet to (attain) Aatmatvam. During stages of Sadhanas, one usually gets vivid experiences and one may even feel that he has attained what is to be attained, and without even his knowledge, he may begin posing as a aatmajnani. But you see when one truly attains aatmatvam, one will be ever abiding as  Self of all, and the question of applying Advaita to anybody will never arise. Therefore the fear of applying Advaita to a Guru can only occur to one who is still yet to (attain) Aatmatvam and jump into the sea of delusion.

In verse No, 39, Bhavagan asks us to be careful during our Sadhana, not to get deluded with some notion of attainments, vivid flashes, occult powers, Intellectual grasps of Aatmatvam, etc...  By stating, not to apply Advaita to a Guru, Sri Bhagavan does not necessarily mean just a Guru, but anybody in that case, for everybody is in a way a Guru to us, and most importantly, He means as Guru is the Self within, for we will be ultimately deluding our own Self imagining that we have attained the Aatmatvam. Imagine what would happen to all those sincere followers to whom one starts preaching about Aatmatvam by one who is himself deluded? It is interesting to note that Bhagavan never preached anything to anybody, he just let everybody be by themselves, and just let them sail through the samsara carefully all by themselves.

For Sri Bhagavan has mentioned on several occasions, that Self is not something that is attained, and therefore to have a feeling of such an attainment would be the mother of all delusions.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4298
Dear I,

You should resume yours postings 'Miracles do happen' I feel, this is one of the best series of posts in this forum so far. simple yet so profound, filled with nectar of Bhakti. Its very nice reading these posts as each one of us, atleast i feel closer to Sri Bhagavan reading these posts.

Ultimately, it is only Bhakti that gives contentment, intellectual knowledge is no where compared to the soul level connection with Bhagavan.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4299
General topics / Torch in a dark room
« on: July 31, 2010, 11:46:30 AM »
A man entered his room when it was dark. He wanted to take his torchlight which he knew was in the room. He began to search for it. He tumbled over many things; he knocked his head here and there. Lo! The torchlight is in his grasp now. Instantly the darkness vanishes and he is able to move about in the room with freedom and ease. A Sadhaka enters the dark caverns of his inner self, where he knows the Light of the Self lies. During his search he seems to stumble and fall, and knock his head here and there. At last the moment arrives—the great Moment of moments—and the light is within his grasp. Instantly ignorance vanishes. The Light of the Self is upon his soul. No more struggle; no more trouble. He moves about freely as a Jivanmukta.

  -  Swami Sivananada Saraswati

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4300
General topics / Mother's trick
« on: July 31, 2010, 11:44:52 AM »
A mother was trying to give an ounce of bitter medicine to her child. However much she might caress and cajole the child, he would not take the medicine. She hit upon a wonderful idea. She placed a sweet ‘laddu’ before the child and said: “If you take this medicine, I will give you the laddu.” At once the child drank the medicine. As the medicine removed the effect of the disease and gave him abundant energy, he ran away in great joy, even forgetting the ‘laddu’. If you tell a man, “Please do this Yajna (sacrifice)”, he will not do, because he seeks pleasure through every action. Therefore, the Vedas offer Svarga, etc., as rewards for sacrifices. When man performs the sacrifices, his heart is purified and gradually wisdom dawns in him. He does not even bother any more for Svarga and the finite happiness there. In Supreme Bliss he gets liberated

  - Swami Sivananda Saraswati

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4301
Regarding applying Advaita to a Guru, one need not worry about this because, only as long as the ego is still there one has a possibility to mis-behave in this manner, a truly realised soul will never do all such things as His ego will be completely dissolved. Therefore this is applicable only for ones who are doing Sadhana.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4302
General topics / Satyakama Jabala
« on: July 29, 2010, 05:08:05 PM »
Here is the story of Satyakama Jabala that appears in Chaandogya Upanishad



Salutations to Sri Ramana

4303
General topics / Re: Nachiketa
« on: July 29, 2010, 04:52:16 PM »
Dear I,

yes, you are correct, infact, I ignored that part of the story as I felt it is enough if the story is conveyed after Nachiketa goes to Yama loka. But you have completed the incompleteness in the story :)

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4304
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Surrender
« on: July 29, 2010, 04:43:29 PM »
Radha is Jivaatma and Krishna is Paramaatma. Radha signifies ourselves, the 'I' how we have to go about in out lives, Radha signifies the Sadhana. When the 'I' merges into the Self Krishna, there is only Krishna, and Radha herself is Krishna.

Radha, got married to somebody else, but she loved Krishna - This signifies that Radha was troubled like anyone of us in her Samsara but her mind was always immersed in thought of Krishna and she never missed Him or felt His absence. She used to see Krishna, talk with him consciously. Her conduct is what we - 'I' have to develop. I have read some stories about how her in-laws used to think that she was mad, mentally not stable. But all these did not trouble Radha, she was always immersed in the Krishna Consciousness.

Radha is Krishna and Krishna is Radha.

Radha signifies the Nirguna Upasana, Krishna represents Saguna Upasana.

The Merging of Radha and Krishna as One - Krishna is the Shiva-Shakti Tattva.

Without Shakti there is no Shiva and without Shiva there is no Shakti.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

4305
I feel like, I have been bestowed a human birth from a Dog's life in my previous birth by His limitless Grace. The tendencies of barking in context of intellectual exchanges of thoughts of mine have still to go to their sources and abide in peace. i feel, i have been just barking all along... it all means nothing... all my posts and talking to all anywhere...

I am simply grateful that Bhagavan has still kept me in his folds, even in spite of all the dirt in me.

I truly understood the real essence of this saying that the Lord does not see the difference between rich and poor people who come to Her.

Rich or Poor does not mean money or luxury.

Rich Man is one who has purer heart with less love (Kama), anger (Krodha), avarice (Lobha), lust (Moha), pride (Madha), unhealthy competition (Matsarya), jealousy (Asooya),, and a Poor man is one who is less Purer with more of love (Kama), anger (Krodha), avarice (Lobha), lust (Moha), pride (Madha), unhealthy competition (Matsarya), jealousy (Asooya),

The Lord does not see any difference between the Rich and Poor.

I so humbled that when I realised that I clearly fall into the second catagory. I am a very Poor man, with all of the love (Kama), anger (Krodha), avarice (Lobha), lust (Moha), pride (Madha), unhealthy competition (Matsarya), jealousy (Asooya),


Ocean of Compassion, Bhagavans' Grace sees no caste barriers of Rich and Poor

The Pig that comes to Him after dirting itiself from a pond of excreta and a person who comes to Him after bathing in the Ganges are one and the same to HIM.

Gratitude...

Salutations and Salutations to you Bhagavan of this wretched Dog

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