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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan & Muruganar 4
« on: August 15, 2010, 02:37:13 PM »
Talking about Muruganar's unique relationship with Bhagavan one is reminded about his 'lizard-talk'! Often, the moment Muruganar entered the Old Hall Bhagavan would commence talking to him. Muruganar would start replying even before prostrating to Bhagavan. While prostrating too he would continue talking. Often, he would even forget that he was lying prostrate on the ground and would just go on talking to him, lifting his head like a chameleon and continuing to reply to his queries. Others in the Hall would be amused at this strange sight. Muruganar narrated this and added: "Viswanatha (Swami) used to jokingly request me to quit such 'lizard-talk'; as my words were not audible to anyone including Bhagavan! What to do? I was not at all aware of such happenings. On such occasions my sole thought would be to reply to Bhagavan immediately and I would forget the environment, everything else, including my body!" Muruganar, the 'shadow of Bhagavan', had the highest devotion for him and would never fail to express this by prostrating to him a number of times and when Bhagavan left the Hall standing up reverentially. But there were occasions when Bhagavan would leave the Hall while Muruganar was composing verses and on returning he would find him still writing. Without going to the couch Bhagavan would stand a while next to the seated Muruganar and pick up the thread of the conversation he had with him before leaving the Hall. The thought that Bhagavan could not stand without great strain, and that he himself should not be seated when his master was standing beside him, would not occur to Muruganar and he would continue talking. The devotees around used to get annoyed over this apparent display of disrespect. Muruganar would realise it only later on when it was pointed out by others!

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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 :D

imagining what would have been the reaction of Muruganar...

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Bhagavan & Muruganar
« on: August 15, 2010, 12:35:13 PM »
How wonderful...

Very very true

Muruganar says in Guru Vachaka Kovai:

Verse 271:-  The guru who instructs the disciple, who has taken complete refuge in him, by giving one more prescription for action, instead of directing him towards Jnana, and who leads him into activities, saying, 'These should be done', is for the disciple [equivalent to] the coming of cruel Yama and Brahma.  Only he who consummates them, transforming them into those who have done all that needs to be done, enabling them to attain the true
benefit of this birth, is the grace-bestowing, divine Guru.

Bhagavan Ramana also says this in Talks No.  601.

"Activity is creation; activity is the destruction of one's inherent happiness.  If activity be advocated the adviser is not a master but the killer.  Either the Creator [Brahma] or Death [Yama] may be said to have come in the guise of such a master.  He cannot liberate the aspirants but strengthens his fetters."

Usually, thats what happens, when some body is so very intense in quest for self, and when everything else looks so futile, worthless, and when one contemplates on leaving everything, then Bhagavan comes and asks the disciple to engage in the same actions, which precisely what the disciple would feel disgusting to continue doing the work! Bhagavan destroys the ego by its roots.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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Muruganar was very special, Bhagavan's leelas towards Muruganar are very special and one feels ecstatic joy while reading the incidents of Muruganar and Sri Bhagavan.

Bhagavan's special care for Muruganar, to give him avial, while he had gone out for Bhiksha, Bhagavan askinging his wife to change Ramana Mayavane into Muruga Mayavane. Occasional teases. Muruganar expressing his childlike disappointment to Sri Bhagavan in the form of his verses as to how he is not as talented as the master of the three world.

I have read Smt. Kanakammal somewhere that it was Muruganar who suffered the maximum after the Maha Nirvana of Sri Bhagavan, it seem he used to roll in the floor crying for Bhagavan.

One word that comes to my mind whenever i think about Muruganar is INTENSITY

Intensity in Bhkati
Intensity in evberything.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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In Bhagavatam, we come across as to how Yadu Maharaj who went to hunt into a dense forest came across an avadhoota who was full of bliss, Yadu was jolted by the bliss emanating from the Avadhoota.

Similarly, in Kali yuga, not very many years back, Sri Ramana, in the hills of Arunachala, simply seated in the same bliss, and we(Yadu) are being jolted by the weapon of the bliss emanating from Sri Ramana.

This Bliss of Sri Ramana is perplexing



Salutations to Sri Ramana

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan & Muruganar 3
« on: August 14, 2010, 05:46:47 PM »
One morning, Bhagavan was preparing to grind the coconut chutney to be served with the idlies at breakfast time. Anticipating Bhagavan's actions. Muruganar darted forward and took hold of the vertical stone that rotates within the cavity of the circular grinding stone. Muruganar started rotating the vertical stone, while Bhagavan settled down opposite and slowly pushed the coconut and other ingredients into the gap.




While this activity was going on, Bhagavan was talking about the early days. He said, "While we were staying on the Hill, Mother often remarked that a grinding stone would be a big help. I invariably replied that, once a grinding stone was acquired, some other appliance would appear indispensable, and there would be no end to such requirements. I used to tell Mother that, by acquiring one object after the other, we will only bind ourselves much more tightly to this earthly life."

Bhagavan's voice had a mesmeric effect upon Muruganar. Though his hands continued their mechanical activity, his mind was far away. He did not even notice that the chutney was ready; he just continued to rotate the stone. To catch his attention, Bhagavan splashed some water onto his face, under the pretext of sprinkling water on the chutney. Even then, Muruganar did not recognise the situation. He assumed that Bhagavan was sprinkling water on the ingredients, and some of the water had accidentally splashed into his eyes. So he just wiped his face with a towel, and continued with his activity. At that point, Bhagavan exclaimed, "What is this? Can't you see that the task is done? Why persist with the grinding when the chutney is ready?" Only then did Muruganar realise what was happening.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan & Muruganar 2
« on: August 14, 2010, 05:16:39 PM »
In the early days, very few devotees stayed with Bhagavan. However, Bhagavan was seldom totally alone. Muruganar had a strong desire to have Bhagavan wholly to himself, at least for a short while. Muruganar never mentioned this yearning to anybody. But can anybody hide anything from Bhagavan? Muruganar's secret wish was to be fulfilled in a totally unexpected way. In those days, Bhagavan and his devotees used to collect leaves from the trees in the forest, to make leaf-plates. Once, while a part was getting ready to go into the forest, Bhagavan gave Muruganar a very significant glance. Interpreting this look as a signal to follow him, Muruganar hurried after Bhagavan. By the time the others entered the forest, Bhagavan and Muruganar had disappeared into the woods.

Bhagavan led Muruganar deep into the forest. At one place, Bhagavan sat down on a log, and asked Muruganar to sit beside him. Muruganar sat, but no words were exchanged. Bhagavan looked directly into his eyes and Muruganar felt the power of Bhagavan's Grace flowing through him like an electric current. He lost all perceptions of time and space, and experienced a joy beyond description. Immersed in this state of bliss, Muruganar was oblivious to the passage of time it was only when he regained his senses that he realised that he must have remained in this state of bliss for hours together. Muruganar has mentioned this incident in one of the poems in the section titled Keerthi Thiruagaval in Sri Ramana Sannidhi Murai. This verse expressed Muruganar's gratitude to Bhagavan, for giving him this experience of blissful union with the Self.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan & Muruganar
« on: August 14, 2010, 04:58:33 PM »
A disciple of a reputed Swami of South India, Vilakshananda, came to Bhagavan to have his darshan. With some hesitation he started telling Bhagavan about his guru's strict injunction that each one of his devotees should do so many thousands of japa daily and surrender the phala to the guru as their offering and that they were following it without fail.

Bhagavan smiled and observed: "Is it so? It is to be appreciated. So much gain for the guru with no strain on his part!" While Bhagavan was saying this, Muruganar entered the Old Hall. Turning to him Bhagavan said: "Do you know? His guru commands each one of his disciples to perform so many thousands of nama-japa and surrender the phala(merit) to him, as guru kanikkai (offering). After that will there be any balance for the disciples? It looks like one keeping the principal and surrendering the interest to the guru as offering. How do you appreciate this?"

Muruganar with tears in his eyes replied: "Bhagavan! Their guru is far better. He at least leaves the principal and demands only the interest. But this guru here (pointing to Bhagavan) is worse. He takes away the principal itself; then where is room for interest? He demands the devotees' mulam(principal) and vaddi(interest) all at once!" Bhagavan gave a benign smile enjoying the poet's joke with deep meaning!

What Muruganar meant was that Bhagavan wipes out the mind and the ego of his devotees.



Salutations to Sri Ramana

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Ganges
« on: August 14, 2010, 11:46:04 AM »
Infact Sri Bhagavan has said that doing Arunachala Girivalam would do good even to non believers because, the hill is Agni Swaroopam. whether a believer or non believer keeps his finger on fire, it will still burn the finger. Similarly, whether believing or non believing if one does girivalam, it does good to the person.


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Dear I,

Interesting article  :D. The peak of "Doership"

Most times, I feel internally that Bhagavan only taught complete Sharanagati in the guise of Self Enquiry. (Both are same though)

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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The devotees of Sri Bhagavan were really "Really SELF CENTERED" to care to address these issues. Sri Bhagavan used to only say reform oneself and the world will reform itself

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To simply live these words of Sri Bhagavan is absolute Sharanagati -

"The Ordainer controls the fate of souls in accordance with their past deeds – their prarabdhakarma. Whatever is destined not to happen will not happen, - try how hard you may. Whatever is destined to happen will happen, do what you may to stop it. This is certain. The best course, therefore, is for one to be silent.”

Where there will be no more Sankalpa "a will to do" Completely casting away the doership.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Ganges
« on: August 12, 2010, 11:47:25 AM »
Once a Guru took all his disciples to the Ganges. after they reached the place, the Guru said, “let me first have my bath and then all of you can bathe in the Holy Ganges and then we shall go to the temple for the Lord's darshan"

The Guru went in to the river finished his bath and was just going to begin his oblations, and then suddenly, the river began to flow ferociously, and the current of the flowing river began to pull the Guru with its force and the Guru shouted, "O my disciples, due to my bad Karma, I am going to die now, but there is one way out, only a purely sinless one can save me, or else, death is certain to me" (Not that he cannot save himself). Now the disciples were perplexed, they were very scared and worried, each one of them started looking at each other, nobody were ready to go against their conscious, they all were feeling guilty about themselves, they were panicking because, even if they wanted to go, irrespective of being killed, the life of Guru was in danger, they hesitated! And then suddenly, from behind, a silent disciple ran forward and jumped into the river and brought the Guru to safety.

All the disciples breathed a sigh of relief and prayed the almighty that all is fine and most thankfully that their beloved Guru was fine. They all loved the Guru more than their own lives.



Later, during the class sessions, the disciples began to wonder how the silent disciple jumped into the river without any hesitation, and they began to praise him as the worthiest disciple, and regretted their own self of being unclean, full of guilt. Seeing all the disciples pondering over this, the Guru himself asked the silent disciple in front of everybody about this. The silent disciple said, "O dispeller of darkness, I too was guilty of my self, full of guilt about my sinful past actions, but, I knew, when I jumped into the Ganges, all my sins will be washed immediately. Therefore, I did not have least bit of doubt regarding this. The Guru simply smiled at the silent disciple and looked at everyone with a very benevolent look. All the other disciples indeed were very blessed. Such is the greatness of Ganges the river and the Ganges of faith.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan and Pup
« on: August 09, 2010, 07:42:53 PM »
This might have been posted before, but I found it very nice to not post it again, the compassion of Sri Bhagavan is limitless.

Bhagavan would visit the goshala once a day. While returning from the goshala, he would stop by a dog, which had littered. He would talk to the mother, pet the pups, clear their eyes and face with his towel. Chinnaswami once scolded a puppy for eating human excreta. Bhagavan took the pup in his arms, cleaned its mouth; told the pup that it should not eat the excreta. He got 'iddlies' from the kitchen and fed the pup.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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