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General Discussion / Re: Wise Quotes
« on: September 04, 2014, 11:26:55 AM »
Your KINDNESS may be treated as WEAKNESS, Still be KIND.

Your HELP may go UNNOTICED, Still be HELPFUL.

If you are HONEST, People may CHEAT you, Be HONEST anyways.

If you find HAPPINESS, they may be JEALOUS, Be HAPPY anyways.

The GOOD you do TODAY, People will often forget TOMORROW, Do GOOD anyways.

Because it is between YOU and GOD. It was never between YOU and THEM!

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 04, 2014, 10:30:09 AM »
Stray thoughts...

In one and all, there is inherently the shine of Supreme God Head or Absolute Self Realisation, great repository of knowledge, it is too little of significance in the whole scheme! What really matters most is whether:

We have vanquished Anger, the first and foremost.
We have vanquished Ego, the self inflicted right to defend or negate.
We have vanquished Emotions, Attachments and Desires.
We have vanquished the pains of Afflictions.
We have vanquished Greed, Jealousy, Hatred.
We have vanquished Violance in thought, word and deed.
We have vanquished Restraint (a need to self check, indicates the existence of Malaas as above)

All spiritual practices are primarily for the annihilation of the above, and lest for any attainment of salvation as such, which is just a residue!


General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 04, 2014, 01:25:26 AM »
Stray thoughts...

Liberation is only for the bound
Concentration is only for the agitation
Enquiry is only for the non enquiry
Abidance is only for the non abidance
Being is only for the non being
That is only for this


General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 03, 2014, 09:02:26 AM »
यथा तालं विना रागः यथा मानं विना नृपः ।
यथा दानं विना हस्ती तथा ज्ञानं विना यतिः ॥

yathA tAlam vinA rAgaH yathA mAnam vinA nRupaH ।
yathA dAnam vinA hastI tathA jnAnam vinA yatiH ॥

A seer without knowledge is as useless as music without timing,
king without dignity or an elephant without rut.


Dear friends,

"One should not reason too much; it is enough if one loves the Lotus Feet of the Mother. Too much reasoning throws the mind into confusion. You get clear water if you drink from the surface of a pool. Put your hand deeper and stir the water, and it becomes muddy. Therefore pray to God for devotion."

Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: September 02, 2014, 11:53:23 AM »
stray thoughts...

Exhibit not thy Vaasana, but thy Nature.


Dear Atmavichar and friends,

some musings on the subject...

What Subramanian Sir has said is correct, in a general spirit, but how can Such a one who is eternal be clever? Chaturam is also commonly understood as a smart person. But literally, Chaturam is verily '4'

In this verse, i understand that "சதுரன" to mean the 4th state - "Turiya"

Only being as the 4th state, being the true nature, can one naturally be a Super Clever Person, who knows it all, and only Such a one is truly Smart and Clever! And only the "Turya" is the Eternal, Endless - "அந்தமில்லாச்-சதுரன"

Hope this insight is of some essence!


General Discussion / Re: Wise Quotes
« on: August 25, 2014, 09:40:20 AM »
God Helps Those who Help Themselves.

one day Mohammed noticed a Bedouin leaving his camel without tying it. He asked the Bedouin, "Why don't you tie down your camel?" The Bedouin answered, "I placed my trust in Allah." At that, Mohammed said, "Tie your camel and place your trust in Allah."

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: August 25, 2014, 01:39:57 AM »
शनैरर्थः शनैः पन्थाः शनैः पर्वतमारुहेत् ।
शनैर्विद्या च धर्मश्च व्यायामश्च शनैः शनैः ॥

shanairarthaH shanaiH panthAH shanaiH parvatamAruhet |
shanairvidyA cha dharmashcha vyAyAmashcha shanaiH shanaiH ||

Slowly slowly gradually, earn your livelyhood (that is sufficient)
Slowly gradually, travel your path, your journey
Slowly gradually, climb the mountain
Slowly gradually, (diligently) acquire knowledge
Slowly gradually, follow the dictum of Dharma (righteousness)
Slowly slowly gradually, exert yourself


General topics / Re: Quotes of Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
« on: August 24, 2014, 08:17:50 PM »
"My Heart wants you awake. I see you suffer in your dream and I know that you must wake up to end your woes.  When you see your dream as dream, you wake up.  But in your dream itself I am not interested.  Enough for me to know that you must wake up.  You need not bring your dream to a definite conclusion, or make it noble, or happy, or beautiful; all you need is to realise that you are dreaming.  Stop imagining, stop believing.  See the contradictions, the incongruities, the falsehood and the sorrow of the human state, the need to go beyond.  Within the immensity of space floats a tiny atom of Consciousness, and in it the entire Universe is contained.?

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: August 24, 2014, 02:12:35 PM »
Dear friends,

I am urged to say, that as Sri Ravi has repeatedly advocating, the Gospel of Ramakrishna is really a treasure house and especially one needs to taste the rasa, the ambrosia and only then can we know or appreciate the efforts of 'M' who only could have written the gospel as the Master's scribe.

It is said that only Lord Ganesha could write what Vyasa had narrated.

As only Bhagavan can truly write about himself, truly, Persons like M are really the reflection of the Master himself.

This book seems to contain all that one needs.

I do not want this to sound like I am elevating the gospel over other books or that I am looking at Ramakrishna over ramana or shank area or am I conveying sorts of thoughts like Bhakti is superior or all those things.

One must relish it, no matter what ones practice may be.

Truly M is unique.


General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: August 24, 2014, 12:33:19 PM »
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of
throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."


General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: August 23, 2014, 11:52:42 PM »
Sri Ravi and friends,

i am reminded about this wonderful Subhaashita:

गुरवो बहवः सन्ति शिष्यवित्तापहारकाः
दुर्लभः स गुरुर्लोके शिष्यचित्तापहारकः

guravo bahavaH santi shiShyavittaapahaarakaaH
durlabhaH sa gururloke shiShyachittaapahaarakaH

There are lot of gurus who take away the wealth of the sishya; (shiShya vitta apahaarakaaH)
it is indeed difficult to get a guru who will truly take away the "worldly misery" of the sishya. (shiShya chitta apahaarakaH)

Sri Ramakrishna says in Gospel:

"A bullfrog was caught by a water-snake. The snake could neither swallow the frog nor let it go. As a result the frog suffered very much; he croaked continuously. And the snake suffered too. But if the frog had been seized by a cobra, he would have been quiet after one or two croaks. (All laugh.)"


General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: August 21, 2014, 09:43:47 AM »
Sri Ravi, friends

Nice and interesting encounter. First thoughts that come in my mind is -

"எது நடந்ததோ, அது நன்றாகவே நடந்தது
எது நடக்கிறதோ, அது நன்றாகவே நடக்கிறது
எது நடக்க இருக்கிறதோ,
அதுவும் நன்றாகவே நடக்கும்"

What ever has transpired, it is only in the good
What ever is happening, it is happening in the good
What is to happen, will also transpire into good only.

Every experience is worth it, be it, we may call it good or bad or like we could have avoided. But by only  facing the smooths and the roughs, would we be nurtured well.

We never know what turns out to be our Guru. There can never be a "fake guru" at any time to anybody. A guru is a guru in any form, good or bad, for a seeker, aspirant, who is ever in thirst for God or Knowledge.

If it be, a guru would manifest in the aspirants world in worst possible example only in order to mould him only in order to make the aspirant realise the true import.

Every experience is great, a blessing. A grace of the Supreme Light.

"guru" ('that' which dispels nescience) is just so pure, a light as the Sun, that it can never be corrupt for a sincere aspirant.

"Sarvam Gurumayam Jagat"

Even if it be some aspirants get fooled, that also is for his own good only. Without being fooled how can knowledge take shape.

There is no boundary for a "Guru" a guru can be within, without. The nature of Self or God is verily Guru, that which dispels ignorance. Until and unless this viveka dawns in an aspirant, the Guru will wash the aspirant like a dhobhi (washerman) washing clothes, beating it, squeezing it and so on, until the cloth becomes clean and pure.


General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: August 20, 2014, 09:41:53 AM »
"But how can you love someone unless you know him? (Pointing to M, with a smile) How can you love him unless you know him? (To M.) Since a pure-souled person has asked for pure bhakti, it must have some meaning."

Quote from Bhagavan :

"Unless intellectually known, how to practice it? Learn it
intellectually first, then do not stop with that. Practise it."

Genuine bhakti:

"One does not seek bhakti of one's own accord without inborn tendencies. This is the characteristic of prema-bhakti. There is another kind of bhakti, called jnāna-bhakti, which is love of God based on reasoning."


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