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General topics / Re: Dasopadesham - The Ten Commandments
« on: August 23, 2010, 10:40:05 AM »
Dear I,

Interesting informations. Both Kanchi Maha Swamigal and Ramana Maharshi have intrigued me since when I was a child. I used to get confused about Who's who! Sometimes both looked alike. Their Vairagyam were beyond grasp.

In Smt. Kanakammal's recollections as well, we can see some informations pertaining to Maha Swamigal and Maharishi. I have also read from Kanchi Books and Sringeri books that Chandrashekhara Bharathi Swamigal and Sri Chandrashekhara Saraswathi Swamigal used to talk with each other from distance. And later when both shared about some information amongst the devotees, they were shell shocked! As both of them never met personally and knew what each one of them are up to and doing!

Late 18th C and 19th C was perhaps the greatest time in our country as it saw the presence of many many greats, I wonder if this has got particularly some significance -

1. Shirdi Sai Baba
2. Akkalkot Maharaj
3. Gajanan Maharah
4. Nithyananda Swami - of Ganeshpuri
5. Ramana Maharshi
5. Chandrachekhara Saraswathi
6. Lahiri Mahasaya
7. Suryananda
8. Yukteshwar Giri
7. Paramahamsa Yogananda
8. Ramakrishna Paramahamsa
9. Swami Vivekananda
10. Vallalar
11. Swami Sivananda
12. Nisargadatta Maharaj

There are many more, I could remember only these at the moment

Salutations to Sri Ramana

General topics / Dasopadesham - The Ten Commandments
« on: August 22, 2010, 03:02:43 PM »
These are the 10 commandments of Sri Shri Chandrasekarendra Saraswati swamigal:

1. One of our duties as human beings is to avail ourselves of every opportunity to do good to others. The poor can serve others by their loyal work to the country and the rich by their wealth to help the poor. Those who are influential can use their influence to better the condition of the lowly. That way we can keep alive in our hearts a sense of social service.

2.Man by himself cannot create even a blade of grass. We will be guilty of gross ingratitude if we do not offer first to God what we eat or wear - only the best and choicest should be offered to Him.

3. Life without love is a waste. Everyone should cultivate "Prema" or love towards all human beings, bird and beast.

4. Wealth amassed by a person whose heart is closed to charity, is generally dissipated by the inheritors: but the family of philanthropists will always be blessed with happiness.

5. A person who has done a meritorious deed will lose the resulting merit if he listens to the praise of others or himself boasts of his deeds.

6.It will do not good to grieve over what has happened. If we learn to discriminate between good and evil, that will guard us from falling into the evil again.

7.We should utilise to good purpose, the days of our life-time. We should engage ourselves in acts which will contribute to the welfare of others rather than to our selfish desires.

8.We should perform duties that have been prescribed for our daily life and also be filled with devotion to God.

9.One attains one's goal by performance of one's duties.

10.Jnana is the only solvent of our troubles and sufferings.

Salutations to Sri Ramana



                                                                                                                                                           Silence is eloquent here.

I remembered this in the context of the subject being discussed and I thought its a good sharing amongst us

An elderly philosopher once explained that the the architecture of the temple has a lot to do with the customs and the proximity of the devotees to the God or Goddess inside. A temple built the south indian way - with the sanctum sactorum, ardha mantapam etc was built with the idea of keeping the devotee at certain distance from the main area of worship. Where the architecture did not have this kind of division, going near the deity and perhaps even touching was allowed.

This was also more a need of protection to the temple from invadors especially in the North. Which is why the system of facilitating the devotees to have easier access to the deity so that personal bond could be built and they would rush to the rescue if the deity or the temple were in danger of being mauled by the ruthless invadors.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

Dear I,

Nice story with essence -

Talking about sparrows and eggs. I am reminded about this story. We all would have heard it before, but still I post it here again -

It was the early hours of the morning in the Hall of Sri Bhagavan. He had had His bath, and now went to the farther end of the Hall to take His towel that hung from a horizontally suspended bamboo, at one end of which a sparrow had built her nest and laid therein three or four eggs.

In the process of taking His towel Sri Bhagavan’s hand came against the nest, which shook violently, so that one of the eggs dropped down. In this way the egg was cracked; Sri Bhagavan was taken aback, aghast. He cried out to Madhavan, the personal attendant. “Look, look what I have done today!” So saying, He took the cracked egg in His hand looked at it with His tender eyes, and exclaimed: “Oh, the poor mother will be so sorrow-stricken, perhaps angry with me also, at my causing the destruction of her expected little one! Can the cracked eggshell be pieced together again? Let us try!”

So saying, He took a piece of cloth, wetted it, wrapped it around the broken egg, and put it back in the mother’s nest. Every three hours He would take out the cracked egg, remove the cloth, place the egg on His roseate palm, and gaze at it with His tender eyes for minutes together.

What was He really doing at this time? How can we say? Was He sending with those wonderful looks of gentle Grace life-giving beams into the cracked egg, putting ever newer warmth and life into it? That is a mystery none can solve. Yet He kept on saying: “Let the crack be healed! Cannot this be hatched even now? Let the little one come from this broken egg!”

This anxious concern and tenderness of Sri Maharshi continued from day to day for about a week. So the fortunate egg lay in the nest with its wet bandage cloth, only to be fondled by Sri Maharshi with divine touch and benign look. On the seventh day, He takes out the egg, and with the astonishment of a schoolboy announces: “Look what a wonder! The crack has closed, and so the mother will be happy and will hatch her egg after all! My God has freed me from the sin of causing the loss of a life. Let us wait patiently for the blessed young one to come out!”

A few more days pass, and at length one fine morning Bhagavan finds the egg has been hatched1 and the little bird has come out. With gleeful smiling face radiant with the usual light, He takes the child in His hand, caresses it with lips, stroking it with His soft hand, and passes it on for all the bystanders to admire. He receives it back at last into His own hands, and is so happy that one little germ of life has been able to evolve in spite of the unhappy
accident to it in the embryo.

Ah, what concern for the meanest of creation! Is it not the heart of the real Buddha which shed first tears of anxiety at the crack in the eggshell and then tears of joy at the birth of the new-born babe? Could the milk of kindness ever be seen or conceived of sweeter than this?

Salutations to Sri Ramana

some how, I am attached to this alternative meaning of the verse -

I am worse than a dog. With what strength can I trace you and reach you, O Arunachala?

I am unable to trace and reach Him. I give up. Sharanagati is inevitable. That also he only has to do it for me, help me attain sharanagati as well.

Avan Arulaale Avan Thaal vananga

not a pinch is possible from me. There is absolutely nothing that I can do! I parcel all the theories and intellectual properties in a sack and throw it into the ocean. Still 'I' am there. Such is my nature - mind.

Avan Asaindaal, Asaiyum Akhilamellam

Avan andri Asayadu

Who am I?

I am not even fit to be one among dusts on his foot.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

I try to imagine the sweet voice of Bhagavan.

He was a child. Very innocent child who refused to grow up!

They call him a Jnani, Maha Yogi, Maha Rshi....

For a child what matters all these titles?

Salutations to Sri Ramana

Once, When Sringeri Maha Sannidanam, HH Sri Abhinava Vidya Theertha Swamigal who is said to be a great yogi who became a Jeevanmukta at the age of 13 or 14 once visited a Orphanage and when he was told about the children as to where they were found and their background, He began to cry profusely out of extreme compasson and love towards the children.

Others who were there, standing normally were very surprised to see the Acharyal of a great mutt here crying! they thought he is beyond all the sorrows and happiness.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

Dear I,

Yes, I make sure, I see Bhagavan's calendar every morning. I thoroughly enjoyed whole month of July, as I have special attachment towards animals.

Bhagavan's Calendar is very special. There is something more to just dates, pictures, special occasions; There is Love. There is compassion. There is Bhagavan.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Bhagavan & Squirrels
« on: August 22, 2010, 10:54:20 AM »
Dear I,

There are many interesting anecdotes, concerning squirrels and
animals in general.  The one who have pasted, is really heart-
melting.  There is a song in Tamizh, where it is stated, that
God or Guru treats all lives as His own life.  This is very true
in the case of Bhagavan Ramana.  There are about 2 or 3 books
in Tamizh/English, titled "Bhagavan, the animal-lover".  One volume
is exclusively dealt with Cow Lakshmi and Bhagavan.  

Your photographs are excellent.
Arunachala Siva.

Sir, when I read such heart melting incidents, I am carried away and engulfed with emotions about Bhagavan and His love. I have the similar feelings like you have mentioned! am I so innocent like these monkeys, squirrels, Cow Lakshmi and all? and there would be a mixed feelings of missing Bhagavan so much and at the same time there is this indescribable ecstasy and immediately, I only start writing here so that other devotees also would enjoy the same feeling as I did.

Like the saying goes -

Yaan pentra inbam, peruga ivvaiyagam -  What ever happiness I have experienced let it grow ''to'' this whole world - I am unable to translate it better than this. excuses!

and what makes it more beautiful, Subramanian sir, are your replies, they are so filled with nectar of Bhakti, and I feel elated to see your replies. You too write your feelings with the same prayerful feeling of Yaan pentra inbam, peruga ivvaiyagam.

I sit back and think, this is what a Satsang is supposed to do right? rise our feelings, emotions, devotion, Bhakti, Karunyam.

Very wonderful are the leelas of Bhagavan. Unfathomable.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

Sir, thank you for your acknowledgement, by your wise words, it is a confirmation and blessings to sadhakas like me are going on the correct direction.

The Bali incident mentioned by you is really the essence of this verse from the Gita -

In the Gita, it is said -

patram puspam phalam toyam
yo me bhaktya prayacchati
tad aham bhakty-upahrtam
asnami prayatatmanah

If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it.

Sir, please do correct me if I may be wrong, but still I would say, oneness is just not experienced only in north indian temples alone.  Many of my uncles also have the same opinion regarding the temples in south india, that it is famous for its rigidity and priests accepting money, and they eat away the mantrams etc... It is beautiful this way. As it is.

There is fullness even here. I personally would give my opinion to my uncles in a gentle way that we should learn to see oneness even in rigidity. In the end rigidity etc... are also just a product of our past knowledge and only we are being rigid in the end!

Temples in north India are beautiful and it feels nice to go inside the garbha griham and at the same time the temples in south India too are beautiful and emanate the same oneness by stationing one outside the garbha griha and having the darshan of Lord. To me it has been one and the same. It exists the way nature demands it to be. But Tarkavaadis over the ages have always had such arguments. Some of my uncles say that people in North India have more Bhakti and there are more Pravachakas and down in south, it is only for money. It is still beautiful that way. As it is. And there is no dearth of essence on either side. The arrogant priests in South Indian temples teach us a very valuable and most important lesson by their conduct. Infact we are all in some ways indebted to them. They are also our Gurus

Sir, I do not mind paying money to have darshan of Lord, if that is what I want, i.e. a good darshan. When I go to any of the famous and hence overcrowded temples, I pay some hundreds at the temple and by that I get to be there fore some time and enjoy my self with the darshan of the Lord. I see no wrong. Infact, I see it that the Lord himself allows and it is His leela, To give such bribes also is one way of deliverance from ego - ie basically "Not to Question Anything" Things are moving in an already ordained way. Who am I to say what is right or wrong. We may have to take thousands of births even for not giving a bribe that which is ordained!

Which is clearly illustrated by Bhagavan, he never discouraged "Brahminism" and "revolutionaries" at the same time. It is beautiful as it is.

When such arguments came forth in my home, that the Lord encourages corruption in his kingdom; my mother gave an interesting reply, she said, "so what if he is taking money and money and only money? he is taking crores and crores from all people who have made black money, thats why he takes a very nice share" He  snatches money from those who have in abundance and I see no wrong in that"

There is a beauty even in "corruption".

Lord Shiva looks good only with Vibhuti Triputi and Lord Vishnu looks good only with Tiru naamam. But we try to question this and want Lord Shiva to put Thiru Naamam and Lord Vishnu to put Bhasma Triputi!

Salutations to Sri Ramana

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan & Squirrels 8
« on: August 21, 2010, 05:19:24 PM »
In Bhagavan's hall, the darshan was not the monopoly of humans. At certain hours squirrels from a large tree by the side of the hall came down to claim their fair share. The beautiful peacock followed. Bhagavan looked at them most graciously. 'Oh, you are hungry!' He would say, and give them some nuts and grains. They would then move away happily like a child after being fed by its mother.

- Reminiscences of N Ponnaiah

Salutations to Sri Ramana

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan & Squirrel 7
« on: August 21, 2010, 05:02:05 PM »
There was a nest near Bhagavan's couch. The young squirrels became orphans as their mother was eaten by a cat. Therefore, Bhagavan, who have equal concern for all living beings without any discrimination, took care of the young ones.

"The little ones do not know that the wisdom lies in remaining inside the nest, because all troubles are outside. But they cannot remain inside, i.e. within" said Bhagavan and using this example Bhagavan taught his devotees how to turn the mind inwards and how beneficial it is for spiritual sadhana. He told, "If the mind is not externalised but remains sunk in the heart, then there would only be happiness, but mind keeps moving out."

Rangaswamy was an attendant to Bhagavan for a number of years and served Bhagavan with diligent devotion. Suri Nagamma referred to him as 'Nandi!' He was to Bhagavan what Nandi was to Lord Shiva!

Once he asked Bhagavan, "What is the path for keeping the mind inwards?"

Bhagavan replied, "It is exactly the same as what I am doing now. Each time a young squirrel comes out, I keep putting it back into the nest. When I go on doing it, the young squirrel learns the happiness of staying in the nest."

What does the baby squirrel know, that the cat is outside and it will be eaten if it goes out!

Salutations to Sri Ramana

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan & Squirrels 6
« on: August 21, 2010, 04:48:42 PM »
This is a very touching incident.

The following incident highlights the care and concern Bhagavan showed to baby squirrels, whose mother had deserted them:

In the roof of the old hall, squirrels had built nests. Once, some new-born squirrels dropped on Bhagavan's sofa from their nest. Their eyes had not yet opened and the size of each baby might not have been more than an inch. They were very red in colour with fresh flesh, absolutely tender to touch. The mother squirrel ignored them, now what to do? How to feed and attend to such tender ones?

The baby squirrels were on the palm of Bhagavan. Bhagavan's face glowed with love and affection for them. While there was a question mark in the face of those surrounded Bhagavan, he himself was happy and cheerful. He asked for some cotton to be brought. He made a soft bed for them. He also took a bit of cotton and squeezed it to a tiny end. The end portion looked like a sharp pin; he dipped it in milk and squeezed milk into the tiny mouths. At regular intervals, Bhagavan repeated this act of compassion. He tended them with great care and loves till they grew up and ran around. They did not run away, but only ran around their 'mother', far kinder than the one who gave them birth! How lucky they were!

Salutations to Sri Ramana

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Bhagavan & Squirrel 5
« on: August 21, 2010, 04:33:26 PM »
That naughty and mischievous squirrel, which bit Bhagavan's finger, did not stop at that. He gathered together a number of his gang and began building nest in the roof exactly above the couch on which Bhagavan sat. They began to squeeze into the beam bits of string, coconut fibre, and the like. Those things were falling down whenever there was wind. So people got angry and began to drive them away.

Seeing this Bhagavan was anguished and felt very sad at the thought that while there was not enough room for the squirrels to build a nest and the people in the hall were driving them away.

Bhagavan's face on such occasions would show so much concern for such beings; it clearly showed that he had equal solicitude for all beings.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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