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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Lesson from a Spider
« on: September 12, 2011, 06:01:24 PM »
According to some legend an emperor when he was jailed after a bad defeat, observed a spider spinning a web, trying to make a connection from one area of the cave's roof to another. Each time the spider failed, it began again until it succeeded. Inspired by this, the emperor returned to inflict a series of defeats on the English, thus winning him more supporters and eventual victory.

"if at first you don't succeed, try try again."

We should always remember this watching the spider make its attempt seven times, succeeding on the eighth try!

Point to note is that the Spider's effort on all 7 occassions were made with utter sincerity and maximum effort!

Like how Krishna says in Gita Uddharet Atmanaatmanam - the Self is both your friend (Devas) and your enemy (Asuras). When your find yourself being pulled by your own bad self (Asuras), you have to pull yourself(Devas) back again to poise.

Salutations to Bhagavan

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Dear Prashant,

In the Gita, Arjuna asks Bhagavan in desperation -

अर्जुन उवाच ।

यॊ‌உयं यॊगस्त्वया प्रॊक्तः साम्यॆन मधुसूदन ।
ऎतस्याहं न पश्यामि चञ्चलत्वात्स्थितिं स्थिराम् ॥ 33 ॥


Krishna, owing to restelssness of my mind, I do not see the steady continuance of this equanimity You have spoken of!

चञ्चलं हि मनः कृष्ण प्रमाथि बलवद्दृढम् ।
तस्याहं निग्रहं मन्यॆ वायॊरिव सुदुष्करम् ॥ 34 ॥


for, the mind is VERY UNSTEADY, TURBULENT, TENACIOUS and POWERFUL; therefore; I consider it as VERY DIFFICULT to control my mind which is like the wind!

Krishna Says

श्रीभगवानुवाच ।

असंशयं महाबाहॊ मनॊ दुर्निग्रहं चलम् ।
अभ्यासॆन तु कौन्तॆय वैराग्यॆण च गृह्यतॆ ॥ 35 ॥


The mind is restless NO DOUBT, and difficult to curb it O Mahabaho; but it can be brought under control by REPEATED PRACTICE of meditation and by the exercise of dispassion O Kaunateya.

असंयतात्मना यॊगॊ दुष्प्राप इति मॆ मतिः ।
वश्यात्मना तु यतता शक्यॊ‌உवाप्तुमुपायतः ॥ 36 ॥


Yoga is difficult to attain for one whose mind is not subdued (by effort) by him; however by Self-Control (Vairagyam) and Sincere Striving, it can be attained through Practice.

Further down, Arjuna is still not satisfied. Just like us. He is still worried and asks Krishna further -

अर्जुन उवाच ।

अयतिः श्रद्धयॊपॆतॊ यॊगाच्चलितमानसः ।
अप्राप्य यॊगसंसिद्धिं कां गतिं कृष्ण गच्छति ॥ 37 ॥


O Krishna, what becomes of him who, though endowed with faith has not been able to subdue his passions and whose mind is therefore diverted from the goal and fails to reach the perfection?

कच्चिन्नॊभयविभ्रष्टश्छिन्नाभ्रमिव नश्यति ।
अप्रतिष्ठॊ महाबाहॊ विमूढॊ ब्रह्मणः पथि ॥ 38 ॥


Krishna, fallen from both paths and without anything to stand upon, does he not perish like the torn clowd? (we all get this doubt often)

ऎतन्मॆ संशयं कृष्ण छॆत्तुमर्हस्यशॆषतः ।
त्वदन्यः संशयस्यास्य छॆत्ता न ह्युपपद्यतॆ ॥ 39 ॥


Krishna, you must dispel this doubt of mine completely; for none other than You can do so!

श्रीभगवानुवाच ।

पार्थ नैवॆह नामुत्र विनाशस्तस्य विद्यतॆ ।
न हि कल्याणकृत्कश्चिद्दुर्गतिं तात गच्छति ॥ 40 ॥


Dear Arjuna, there is no fall for him either here or hereafter for none who does good ever comes to grief

प्राप्य पुण्यकृतां लॊकानुषित्वा शाश्वतीः समाः ।
शुचीनां श्रीमतां गॆहॆ यॊगभ्रष्टॊ‌உभिजायतॆ ॥ 41 ॥


He who has fallen from Yoga, obtains the higher words to which men of meritorious deeds alone are entitled and having resided there thereafter take birth in a house of the pious or wealthy

अथवा यॊगिनामॆव कुलॆ भवति धीमताम् ।
ऎतद्धि दुर्लभतरं लॊकॆ जन्म यदीदृशम् ॥ 42 ॥


Or he is born in the amily of enlightened Yogis itself; but to get such a birth in this worlf is very difficult

तत्र तं बुद्धिसंयॊगं लभतॆ पौर्वदॆहिकम् ।
यततॆ च ततॊ भूयः संसिद्धौ कुरुनन्दन ॥ 43 ॥


O Kurunandana, He regains in that borth the spiritual insight of his previous birth and through that he strives harder than ever for perfection!

पूर्वाभ्यासॆन तॆनैव ह्रियतॆ ह्यवशॊ‌உपि सः ।
जिज्ञासुरपि यॊगस्य शब्दब्रह्मातिवर्ततॆ ॥ 44 ॥


He feels drawn towards God by force of the habit acquired in his previous birth, even the seeker of enlightenment on yoga rises above the actions prescribed by the word of the Vedas

प्रयत्नाद्यतमानस्तु यॊगी संशुद्धकिल्बिषः ।
अनॆकजन्मसंसिद्धस्ततॊ याति परां गतिम् ॥ 45 ॥


The Yogi However, who diligently takes up the pratice attains perfection in this very life, with the help of inheritance from many births and being thoroughly purged of sin, then reaches the SUPREME STATE

तपस्विभ्यॊ‌உधिकॊ यॊगी ज्ञानिभ्यॊ‌உपि मतॊ‌உधिकः ।
कर्मिभ्यश्चाधिकॊ यॊगी तस्माद्यॊगी भवार्जुन ॥ 46 ॥


The Yogi is superior to the ascetics, he is regarded as Superior men of knowledge and to those who perform action with a motive. Therefore Arjuna, You become a YOGI!

यॊगिनामपि सर्वॆषां मद्गतॆनान्तरात्मना ।
श्रद्धावान्भजतॆ यॊ मां स मॆ युक्ततमॊ मतः ॥ 47 ॥


Of all yogis, again, he who deoutly worships Me (SELF) with his mind focussed on Me (WITHIN) is considered by Me to be the most Devout!

Elders say, It is enough if one always remembers these replies of Bhagavan from the entire Bhagavad Gita and that itself can take one to the Supreme if practiced with utmost sincerity.

PRACTICE, PRACTICE , PRACTICE, even if we fail just resuming the practice again and again... For Bhagavan has confirmed that what practice we have done never goes waste.

Suppose you did Self Enquiry 5 years back and then stopped it due to some problems, some samsara problems... Bhagavan says that such practice does not go waste. It is carried forward again when you resume again!

Salutations to Bhagavan

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Forum advice, news & etiquette / Re: Hello - Back again
« on: September 11, 2011, 06:11:41 PM »
Thank you..  :)

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Dear Amiatall,

I have personally observed in my case atleast that Self Enquiry has been more effective along with the practice with other light daily traditionally practiced rituals and without that Self Enquiry is less effective and some times just a mere exercise!

Even Bhagavan had asked only Muruganar and Ramanatha Brahmachari alone to leave their rituals and for instance when some devotee saw Bhagavan tell Muruganar that he need no more do any rituals and he too stopped all his rituals and practices, and when this came to Bhagavan's notice, he told him to resume his rituals and practices and that applied only to Muruganar and not others and he always encouraged them to practice pranayama, Eating light and satwic food, etc... Ganapati Muni was complete ritualist. He did so much Japa and gave mantra Dheeksha to many Devotees at Ramanashramam as well.

कायवांमनःकार्यमुत्तमम् ।
पूजनं जपश्चिन्तनं क्रमात् ॥ (4)

Ritual worship, repetition of sacred names, and meditation are done with the body, the speech, and the mind, and they progress in excellence in that order.

and I realised that we have to move in that order only. Directly to be able to progress from the last stage is not easy/wise unless we have some poorva Janma sukrutham (benefit due to Past Life sadhana)

These rituals complement/help/support ones ability to concentrate and helps make our Self Enquiry like the flow of the Ghee -

आज्यधारया स्रोतसा समम् ।
सरलचिन्तनम् विरलतः परं ॥ (7)

Like an unbroken flow of oil or a stream of water,
continuous meditation is better than that which is interrupted.

I feel, most of us would not be able to practice Self Enquiry so constantly without any breaks as described above. We are surely caught up with our share of Prarabdhas and karmas and we are able to practice only for some time everyday or at most a maximum for few hours may be; and at other times we are definitely caught up with some thing or the other irrelevant or worldly!

Regular practice of our Nithya Karmas, chanting shlokas, etc... disciplines our mind further so as to be able to effectively be able to invoke our minds constantly to abide within the outgoing mind. Bhagavan initiated Self Enquiry to Ganapati Muni through Hi Japa Sadhana only i.e. observing the source of the Mantra, observing the source of the sound, where from it is coming from... as one does Japa.

Very few would be able to practice such levels of Pure Self Enquiry and their minds would be absolutely pure. And great devotees such as Muruganar and Ganapati Muni themselves have expressed their bewilderments directly or indirectly through their poems and shlokas they have composed. We are much much less compared to such great devotees! We should take aid of Praanayama/Yoga/Japa and the traditional practices of our families as the case may be (Hindu/Muslim/Christ)

Adding one more though -

I feel, Bhagavans teaching is not a new separate Sadhana, I mean, it has to be inculcated in what we are already doing, i.e. Hindu by being a better Hindu, A Christian by being  a better Christian and a Muslim by being a better Muslim with the essential ingredient of Bhagavan's teaching/Revelation.

Inculcating this Enquiry while chanting prayers, while doing Japa, or while doing Namaz or while while doing their prayers or psalms. any ways.

All religions is Bhagavan's religion or no religion is Bhagavan's religion!

Salutations to Bhagavan

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This Response by Bhagavan is actually not quite simple as it reads. I am baffled a the "state" of Bhagavan, its puzzling each and every cell of my body. Even Great Jnani's like HH Chandrashekhara Saraswathi Swamigal (Kanchi) and HH Sachchidananda Sivabhinava Narasimha (Sringeri) Swamigal had such great respect and adored Bhagavan. Ganapathy Sastrigal himself had hundreds of followers and He Himself was seen as a Rishi by many of his followers, He too was puzzled and baffled at Bhagavan's "State" Bhagavan was the Highest manifestation of absolute "Poornatvam" unparalleled.

Bhagavan's simplicity actually casts some illusions because he was so very humble and ordinary to our eyes. Moreover, His direct devotees like Muruganar, Nayaya and others were no ordinary devotees, they were verily like the 63 Nayanmars and Bhagavan is Saakshat Sivan Himself.

Where do we stand in the entire scheme? We have to do our Sadhana with utmost sincerity and purify our minds. And honestly, this enquiry has even baffled great devotees like Muruganar and Nayana as well. How are we to fare then?

We have to purify our mind first with other aids along with Bhagavan's guidance. Simple practice of Japa and other traditional rituals, etc... are great purifier and restricts the outgoing mind and brings back the focus on Japa or the ritual that we are doing.

Once our mind gets purified, then the Self Enquiry will be most effective. Like Bhagavan says -

"Gunpowder catches fire in an instant, while it takes time to ignite coal"

Salutations to Bhagavan

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Dear Jyoti,

to begin with, just cultivate the habit to sit for 15 minutes silently unmoved comfortably in a chair in a calm place or some corner. Don't worry about what is the pocedure for "Self Enquiry" There are no "Fixed" procedure or steps for Self Enquiry.

The Self Enquiry that begins to sprout from within without any programming is the True Self Enquiry. If you try to gather ideas as to how to practice Self Enquiry, it becomes mere intellectual exercise.

So just be. Go to school like how a small child begins to go to nursery, LKG, Kindergarten! No expectation. The learning is natural.

Salutations to Bhagavan

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General Discussion / Re: dealing with aged parents in an indian context
« on: September 08, 2011, 11:00:26 AM »
Dear Anand,

I wanted to add a couple of more points on, you had mentioned -

While we seem more receptive to our spouses's matters, we get irritated with our old parents' issues.Isnt this somewhat reflective of the great irony of our lives that we are sometimes shy away from those hands that once held us .
Sometimes this may be because we blame some of the problems in our lives on our parents sometimes justifiably so  ,sometimes irrationally .

So while we take care of our parents , if we do not treat them with love and give them attention , then I think it is meaningless.At the same time our spouse and children deserve our time.

If we notice and enquire and observe within, is it not because of our selfish reasons that we are receptive to our spouses's matter or sometimes even Parents matter or sometimes even Children's matter? it could be because what our spouse says may be right and at times what our parents say might be wrong and by nature we lean to towards this basic discernment of what is right and wrong. But the right and wrong are different for each person. What seems right for us could be wrong for others and what is wrong for us could be right for others. Are these not our mind's play? we should be aware of this constantly and discern that the TRUTH is different from 'rights' and 'wrong' which are mind concepts. TRUTH is above rights and wrongs!

What all people want is compassion, love, feel of secure, be wanted, cared. The lack of these only create friction. If we are unable to give this to people then we also become part of the games played by mind and get caught in the 'rights' and 'wrongs'

We should always be focused in the bigger Truth always. That by itself will give people what they long for. And this TRUTH is common to one and all, it is the language of the Aatma or Soul. the Soul of a person who seems right and the soul of a person who seems wrong is one and the same. When we learn to see this Truth, this principle of Atma or oneness in everybody then we will have no reason to feel guilty for you are seeing the same TRUTH in everybody and you need not worry about taking your spouse's positions or your parents position or your children's or even your very own position too.

We should slowly practice to stop speaking the language of our minds and start speaking more the language of the Soul with each other

Salutations to Bhagavan

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General Discussion / Re: dealing with aged parents in an indian context
« on: September 08, 2011, 10:30:59 AM »
Dear Anand,

I feel proper discernment and understanding of the Truth would always keep oneself in peace. Who are we really related to? what is relation? We have the notions such as "my wife", "my children", "my parents", "my relatives", "my friend" and so on; But actually we still don't really know who this "my" really is? i.e. "who am I?" it boils down to this!

There is an interesting observation that I read in some purana. It says that we are like the logs of tree wood that is pulled away from the banks of a powerfully flowing river from the mountains and they travel together along with the currents of the river and then eventually get separated where the river changes to various different directions. Our relations, our family are just like these woods that meet at some point and travel for some time and then go on their own journey.

Another easy example is like the people we meet in a train! So many people come into the train from somewhere in order to travel somewhere and people get to know each other just during the journey and when each of their destination arrives, then they go along their own journey and we ours! Wife, children, parents, friends are all just like these passengers and they will get down when their station arrives and we will continue with our journey and they theirs!. It is the wrong identification with our bodies that is leading us to "attachment" which is the root cause that leads us to such differentiation such as my wife, my children, my parents, my friends. If we look very carefully, "my" is different "wife" is different; "my" is different "children" is different; "my" is different "parents" is different and so on - so there is separation here from "my" and "wife". It is the wrong notion or "avidya" that binds both together which is what is called "hrithaya Granthi" and we look and enquire and find who this "my" is, then parents disappear, children disappear, wife disappear and friends disappear as what remains is just the "my alone". Bhagavan Ramanr quotes from Upanishad:

Bidhyate hridaya Granthi Chidyanthe sarva samshayaah Sheeyanthe cha asya karmaani Tasmin Drishte Paravare

The knots of the heart get broken, All doubts vanish, all karmas lose their effect for a person who realizes the Atma-Brahman Aikyam or that I am Self or Brahman.”

We are all here with family due to our prarabdha karma, we should perform the ordained duties like the Lotus untouched by water even being in water. We should be like the Swan which is said to able be able to separate separate water and drink only milk if milk is said to be mixed with water.

As we get more clarity and complete understanding and discernment of this truth, then we would be able to handle our family ideally. We will have utmost clarity and we can give enough space to both parents, wife and children. Its only because we are under equipped or because we lack proper clarity that we are at times unable to handle the needs of parents, children and wife.

Its more so important that we first make ourselves stronger by Strong enquiry of Self. Sometimes in our day to day life, since we are in samsara, Self enquiry may be difficult. We may not have sufficient time or mind space to sincerely do a proper self enquiry. Hence rituals play an important role in our day to day life. Doing Nithya Karmas properly gives us the same result of doing Self Enquiry.

We should make ourselves stronger, then we can help people around us. If we are week then it becomes burdensome.

Salutations to Bhagavan

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General Discussion / Re: Headaches and Migraine
« on: September 07, 2011, 04:43:09 PM »
Dear Anand,

Practicing Praanayama helps with this regard. It is said that Breath is the bridge or the connecting points for mind and body. If you notice whenever some imbalance occurs in our body, our breath too would have become irregular, either shallow or inconsistent. By regular practice of Praanayama, this body mind complex can be balanced.

With the kind of quality food we get to consume today, surely our bodies lack proper nutrients and nourishment. Its proven fact that even fresh vegetables these days are less nourishing. Our environment, air, they are all in very bad condition and our daily life tensions, etc... all these form the reasons for the imbalance in our bodies.

Our scriptures give several ways by which we can nourish our bodies so that we can steady and focus more on the Self. Some personally experienced ways are as follows -

  • Regular Good habits such as walking, excercising
  • Regular practice of Yogasanas or atleast practice of basic Praanayama
  • Regular chanting of shlokas/mantras, doing Japa - The vibrations of Shlokas and Mantras give us 'ojas' or energy, 'shakti' energy by which our cells get energy through vibration currents. Just by listening attentively to Vedas properly chanted with Swaras, one gets nourished and can also feel this.
  • Avoiding bad company. Energy currents of people are the worst and the topmost in this list that affects. Being with negatively charged people constantly our energies are sucked and we feel depressed and get headaches. Hence we must develop our defenses by charging ourselves spiritually. The above mentioned ways are the best along with having the company of Good people with good intentions who are not depressed themselves. When we are positive then we can be a dynamo for these negative people but not before we are strong ourselves
  • By taking guided medical supplements - Is a very hard truth but is the fact of the days of our times.
  • Visiting places of extreme calmness and powerfully charged places such as temples, churches and Masjids.
  • Apart from prostrating to God in our Puja Room, doing Namaskarams to respected elders gives us massive energy nourishments.
  • Best instant short yoga practice is Surya Namaskara
  • Standing below the rising Sun and enjoy Sun bathing. The atmosphere is filled with Ozone air.
  • Being/spending time with Plants and trees. We can have silent satsang even with Plants and Tress too. Look at a beautiful flower and silently converse with it. Listen to the air and the leaves play in joy
  • If you love pets, spend time with your pets
  • Kids are best and very strong in relieving us from our negativity. Playing with kids is another great way.
  • Sometimes we have to recognize that too much intellectual dabbling on spirituality leads to very High Level of negativity. Hence we have to always begin with short and sweet practices of doing Meditation for 10 minutes everyday and gradually increase the time. we have to pass all 10 standards of education before we can join college.
  • Letting go of things, forgiving people for their mistakes is very powerful and results are immediate too. But letting go and forgiving should be completely pure from the heart and not just by word.
  • and Off course looking at the graceful eyes of Bhagavan. Just look at his portrait for as long as He intends you to. He is ever nourishing. He is verily Parvati Devi who gave milk to Jnana Sambandhar.
  • Watch your breath (don't do Pranayama) just watching ones breath helps in neutralizing our breath pattern and corrects the imbalances in our body.
  • Surrender. Don't think too much. Nothing is in our hands. In times of despair either physically or mentally, remember these words of Bhagavan says, "The Ordainer controls the fate of souls in accordance with their prarabdhakarma (destiny to be worked out in this life, resulting from the balance-sheet of actions in past lives). Whatever is destined not to happen will not happen, try as you may. Whatever is destined to happen will happen, do what you may to prevent it. This is certain. The best course, therefore, is to remain silent."
  • And be aware that the headache is temporary, it shall pass, let it happen, just see and see it pass too. You are the eternal witness and not the witnessed pain.
  • Breath out numerous number of Sigh loudly. Breath our Heavy by letting go. When you do so, you will breath out with a sound such as "Uh..." It helps.
  • Be silent and in calm locations. move out of the vicinity of a TV and bad people.
  • We have to learn to love ourselves. Most of us so self deprived of ourselves with very lowe Self esteem. We should accept ourselves exactly the way we are.
  • letting go of our past and memories and focusing in the present
  • Seeking the guidance of a wise person when we know we dont have a solution for some situation
  • Homams recharge us our house and our people completely from negativity. Popolar Homas such as Ganapathy Homams can bring change with amazing results
  • Doing Giri Pradakshinam at Arunachala is great remedy

Hope these helps. This is what I usually try and practice to do.

Salutations to Bhagavan

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Forum advice, news & etiquette / Hello - Back again
« on: September 07, 2011, 10:17:43 AM »
Dear I,

Hello to you all once again. I am back after a long hibernation to the forum. There was a need from within to be by myself, hence I had taken a break! I felt like Bhagavan's call from within that I should be back here now to be able to spend some valuable time in the thought of Bhagavan and his teachings.

Salutations to Bhagavan

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General topics / Ashram Update
« on: September 02, 2010, 03:43:21 PM »
Dear Members, let us all spend a few minutes in silence in memory of Sri. Ravi Ramanan. This news is published the current issue of Sharanagati Newsletter.

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It is with a heavy heart that we write this. On 14th August 2010, Ravi Ramanan, the leading member of our Editorial Team and youngest son of the Ashram President Sri V. S. Ramanan, was absorbed in Arunachala. Ravi faced his two year battle against brain cancer with remarkable courage and dignity. The passing on was peaceful, a sure sign of Sri Bhagavan’s boundless Grace! As we work on this issue of Saranagathi we can feel Ravi’s quiet presence guiding and encouraging us to continue doing ‘Bhagavan’s Work’.

A Satsang was held at the Ashram President’s residence on Saturday the 21st of August 2010 on the eighth day of Ravi Ramanan’s Absorption in Bhagavan. Sri V.S. Ramanan, Susila Ramanan, Ranjani Ravi Ramanan, her mother Mangalam, daughters Rasika and Raksha, and many relatives and other devotees of Bhagavan were present. Nochur Sri Venkataraman spoke on the occasion when he expressed his heart-felt feelings to Ranjani and other bereaved members of the family and proceeded to explain how devotees of Bhagavan may effectively face such a crisis in the light of Bhagavan’s teaching. He began by saying that he knew the mental agony of one who loses a dear one, especially at a young age. His sister’s husband passed away young last year and the agony lingers in his heart. However, as devotees of Bhagavan we have no choice but to listen to his words and live by them and attain the highest goal of life. Bhagavan’s own life and his teachings give us very precious insights into the phenomenon of death. In fact, Death is the most important happening in Sri Bhagavan’s life. About the middle of July in the year 1896, young Venkataraman, not yet 17, took on Death, as it were, vanquished It and came out of the experience as a Deathless One. No more, to him, the sense of identity with the body, no more the personal I, no more duality. From that moment, the timeless time, he abided as the Self uninterruptedly throughout the rest of his life. After the Death Experience, he remained in form without form (vadivilaavadivaanavan) to show us in the most dramatic and telling manner that there is no death. The body may go, but “are we the body?”

Kathopanishad, one of the most important Upanishads, is in the form of a dialogue with death, the dialogue of young Nachiketa with Lord Yama. This Upanishad may be called a brief biography of young Ramana. Nachiketa asked Yama to tell him how death may be conquered and Yama taught him how to
conquer it with the (Nachiketa) fire. Venkataraman conquered Death with the fire of Jnana Vichaara. Bhagavan is the supreme symbol of jnana and peace. Peace is our real nature and Bhagavan is our own true nature. In that supreme state, there is neither joy nor sorrow. Bhagavan has said that peace is
itself mukti , liberation. If we live by Bhagavan’s words, peace is inevitable. For one who has found that supreme inner peace, what can health and ill-health matter? For these pertain to body and mind whereas peace is the very nature of Self. Death and birth are only moving shadows on the screen of the Self. By doing Self-enquiry or by surrendering to Bhagavan, we can conquer the fear and sorrow of death once and for all. Bhagavan has poured his Grace on Ravi like a torrent. Ravi was totally devoted to Bhagavan and identified himself with the interests of the Ashram. It is for us to realize that Bhagavan’s ways cannot be comprehended by our finite minds and accept whatever happens. His basic teaching “Whatever is destined to happen will happen, do what you may to prevent it,” is like a mantra, which, when followed in actual practice, is sure to give us peace. Bhagavan’s basic teaching, quoted above, is a Cosmic Law and death and birth happen in nature strictly according to that Law. Ravi’s illness and death were according to that Law.
But Bhagavan’s arul (Grace) made it so sacred that his own parents and his wife could feel its sacredness and maintain an amazing inner calmness and composure at the moment of the happening and afterwards. This shows how deep was Ravi’s devotion to Bhagavan and how abundant is Bhagavan’s Grace on the whole family.

What is death? Well, it can aptly be viewed as an acronym of Divine Eater And Teacher of Humanity. Devotees of Bhagavan, of course, see it as Absorption in Arunachala Ramana. How can we be afraid of or mourn such Absorption? We were all, of course, praying for Ravi’s complete cure. However, the way it has happened, the way he faced the challenge over a period of two years and the incredible calmness and dignity with which he left his body must awaken us all to the real meaning of death and the purpose of life. In other words, we should take Bhagavan’s teachings ever more seriously and live by them. Bhagavan never minced matters, certainly not on the subject of death. He told everyone, young or old, devotee or a visitor, that “Body is another name of death”. So long as we nurse the idea that “I am the body”, we are wedded to death. The only way to deathlessness, to immortality is by realizing the Self which is ever bodiless, ever free, ever blissful, eternal and of the very nature of peace.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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Dear I,

A very touching story indeed. I am reminded about Sir Rajagopalachari, who composed the famous song "Kurai ondrum illai marai murthy Kanna". Sri. Rajagopalachari was in distress due to some personal family problems, he came to Tirupathy to blurt all his pains and problems to the Lord and when he stood there, miraculously his glance turned towards the entry door (perhaps this was the leela of Venkateshwara, that he look at the door) He saw an outcaste, who stood outside at considerable distance and praying with great devotion to Perumaal(Temple entry was still practiced then). Tears rolled over Sri Rajagopalachari's eyes and he was so embarrassed about himself, and he composed this song looking at that outcaste and as though that outcaste is singing this great song, who cannot even look at the Lord inside -

kuRai onRum illai maRaimoorthy kaNNA!
kuRai onRum illai kaNNA!
kuRai onRum illai GOvindhA

kaNNukkut theriyaamal niRkinRaai kaNNA
kaNNukkut theriyaamal ninRaalum enakku
kuRai onRum illai maRaimoorthy kaNNA!

vENdiyadhait thandhida vEnkatEsan enRirukka
vEndiyadhu vERonRum enakkillai kaNNA
maNivaNNA, malaiappA! GOvindhA, GovindhA
GovindhA! GovindhA!

Thiraiyinpin niRkinRaai kaNNA! -kaNNA!
Thiraiyinpin niRkinRaai kaNNA!- unnai
maraiyOdum gnAniar mattumE kANbAr - enRaalum
kuRaionRum enakkilai kaNNA! - enRaalum
kuRaionRum enakkilai kaNNA!
kunRin mEl kallaagi miRkinRa varadhA!
kunRin mEl kallaagi miRkinRa varadhA!
kuRai onRum illai maRai moorthy kaNNA!
kuRai onRum illai maRai moorthy kaNNA!
maNivaNNA, malaiappA! GOvindhA, GovindhA
GovindhA! GovindhA! GovindhA! GovindhA!

kalinaaLuk iRangi kallilE iRangi
silaiyaaga kOilil niRkinRaay kEsavA!
yaarum maRukkaadha malai appA!
yaarum maRukkaadha malai appA!- un maarbil
yenRum yezhundharuLum karuNai kadal annai
yenRum irundhida yEdhu kuRai enakku?
yenRum irundhida yEdhu kuRai enakku?

kuRai onRum illai maRai moorthy kaNNA!
kuRai onRum illai maRai moorthy kaNNA!
maNivaNNA, malaiappA! GOvindhA, GovindhA
GovindhA! GovindhA! GovindhA! GovindhA!

Meaning: "I have no grievances at all absolutely, vEdha nayakA! kaNNA! You
are not seen by mt eyes; Even though You are not seen by my naked eyes, I
have no grievances! (implies; I have, because I am not able to see you)

Whatever I wish, You are able to give me, Then, whatelse do I need? (except
You); Hence, I have no grievances; maNivaNNA! malai appA! GovindhA!

You are standing behind the curtain (imples stage; You are a soothra
dhaari); Only vEdic scholars and gnAnis can see You; Even then, I have no
grievances (implies, I have because I am not able to see You);

During these "kali" yugam, You have come and entered and stayed as an archA
form at TirumalA, kEsavA! No one can deny Your Existence, GovindhA!
When the Merciful, Goddess stays in Your chest all the time, why should I
have any "kuRai"? GovindhA!"

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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Thanks all for your wishes... it's a pleasant surprise actually!

I had visited Kerala along with my family. I had very good darshan of Guruvayoor in Koupinam and now, I feel blessed after looking at the pictures of Udupi Krishna as well. Wonderful, thanks for the link Prashant!

All members who have not visited a Kerala Temple, really you are missing something! Please try and make it to have darshan of God in Kerala. Splendid. Absolutely Splendid. No words to describe. I have visited temples in Karnataka, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Andhra. But the temples in Kerala is very unique and I guess no changes have been made since the days of yore. It is as it is unlike most of our places. Each temple is beyond experience.

I visited Kalady, the birth place of Adi Shankaracharya. This is a unique place. If at all there is any place other than Ramanashramam (that quietness, stillness, Peace) it is only this place. This place had more vibrations than the Maths itself.
It was the agraharam where Adi Shankrara grew and there is one Krishna temple which is Kula Deivam of Adi Shankara. Absolutely Divine! Behind this there is the famous Purna River which Adi Shankara got it closer to his mother who found it difficult to walk a long distance for her daily bath.

We then visited Chottanikara Bhagavati Amman temple. and just behind there is Bhadra Kali temple. Absolutely ancient. Felt as though I traveled backwards to some 7th or 8th Century!

Then we went to Guruvayoor and about 1 minute darshan of Krishna in Koupinam stilled me, transfixed! I was not bothered to take the prasad or theertham etc... the darshan was more than enough! Krishna is really there! its definitely not just a stone vigraham. I remembered Bhagavan Ramana. Small Krishna reminded me of our very beloved Bhagavan in Koupinam. He is Him! Also it occurred to me that not only Murugan wears Koupinam(from Saivaite) but also Krishna too (for Vaishavites)

We then made it to Vadakkunnathan Temple, this is the temple where Shivaguru is said to have prayed and observed Vratham along with Aaryamaba which led to the birth of Adi Shankara.

This is also the temple, where Adi shankaracharya is said to have been fed with the divine milk (just like Jnana Sambandhar) and composed Soundarya Lahiri at the age of about 3 or 4 or 5 (don't know)

This is one of the biggest temples in south India. This place also troubled me a lot from being normal. They had captured me too much.

Actually I have not been able to still come out of the impact that I had in this visit. Please excuse my very vague description of my travel. Very happy to share it with you all.

Other states and temples also have great temples, but most Kerala temples don't make much noise like others. They are silent, the temple practices are not at all compromised. The traditions are at its best. You will really travel back wards to few hundred years back.

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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General topics / Re: Sri Ramakrishna Quotes on Truth
« on: August 29, 2010, 04:31:58 PM »
By using the word "Payas" not only he made the person who gave the "lehyam" happy but also he made sure he was able to carry his intentions as well, to not waste milk unnecessarily.

This is a great lesson indeed for all of us as to how we have to lead our lives in the current times. This verily is a Geetopadesa

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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General topics / Re: Sri Ramakrishna Quotes on Truth
« on: August 29, 2010, 04:23:02 PM »
very interesting... to note the uncanny knack of Bhagavan to have played the role of Krishna by using the word "Payas"
 :D

Beautiful

Salutations to Sri Ramana

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