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General Discussion / Re: At least 239 killed in Turkey earthquake
« on: October 24, 2011, 06:03:07 PM »
Everything goes back to the source where it came from.

from mental level, heart goes out to one and every one. May God give strength and wisdom to the bereaved ones!

From Atmic principle, it is all a leela. Krishna says in Gita

अच्छेद्योऽयमदाह्योऽह्यमक्लेद्योऽशोष्य एव च ।
नित्यः सर्वगतः स्थानुरचलोऽयं सनातनः ॥ २, २४ ॥

The soul is indestructible,
the soul is incombustible, insoluble and unwitherable.
The soul is eternal, all-pervading, unmodifiable, immovanle and primordial. (2, 24)

Salutations to Bhagavan

3887
General topics / How to live in the world
« on: October 24, 2011, 05:49:27 PM »
Live in the world like a dead leaf. As a 'dead
leaf is carried by the wind into a house or on
the roadside and has no choice of its
own, so let the wind of Divine Will
blow you wherever it chooses. Now it has
placed you in the world, be contented,
Again when it will carry you to a better place,
be equally resigned. The Lord has kept you
in the world, what can you do? Resign everything
to Him, even your own dear self; then all
trouble will be over. You will see then that
He is doing everything ; everywhere is the will
of Rama * (God).

Sri Ramakrishna

Salutations to Bhagavan

3888
General topics / Re: What leads to God vision
« on: October 24, 2011, 05:40:23 PM »
Dear Subramanian Sir,

I felt. God vision itself really meant the Non Dual Self itself.

Salutations to Bhagavan

3889
General topics / What leads to God vision
« on: October 24, 2011, 05:35:24 PM »
The disciple: Bhagavan, what stateof mind leads to God-vision ?

Sri Ramakrishna : Cry to God with a yearning heart and then you will see Him. People will shed a jugful of tears for the sake of their wife or children; they will be carried away by a stream of their own tears for the sake of money; but who sheds a tear for God? Cry for Him, not for show, but with a longing and yearning heart. The rosy light of the dawn comes before the rising sun; likewise
a longing and yearning heart is the sign of God-vision that comes after.

Extreme longing is the surest way to Godvision. Through extreme longing the mind remains fixed on the Supreme Being. One should have faith like that of an innocent child and such longing as a child has when it .wants to see its mother.

Salutations to Bhagavan

3890
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 05:19:07 PM »
Dear ramana1359,

These are wonderful interviews.

Salutations to Bhagavan

3891
General topics / Re: Characteristics of Brahman
« on: October 24, 2011, 05:17:31 PM »
Dear Subramanian Sir,

Yes, the first 2 Mangala Shlokas of Ulladu Naarpadu itself gives the entire Vedanta Saaramsha. the direct devotees of Bhagavan considered the Srimad Bhagavata, an elaborate Bhashyam commentary on Ulladu Naarpadu; and Ulladu Naarpadu gives the entire tatva in a nutshell and the first 2 shlokas themselves are enough for one who is really quick!

And talking about the second mangala shloka, the name of RA MA NA itself has MA RA NA (death) in it - (death of ego)



Salutations to Bhagavan

3892
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 03:31:45 PM »
Nice Bhajan! Friends, you may watch these short Enlightening Interviews if you are inclined

Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBPZbAj2oHY
Part2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBjKaDf6zw&feature=related
Part3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7R8FwIxwUk&feature=related

Salutations to Bhagavan

3893
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 03:17:18 PM »
Yes, they are two sides of the same coin, one side is effort and the other effortlessness.

Constant effort to remain effortlessly. That is Tapas.

and this Tapas culminates to Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi.

:)

3894
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 03:08:09 PM »
Yes, the interpretations can be any, that which suits one!

Having said we have to divert the mind from all other things to its origin, the Self, upon discernment, we realise that, we are already that. I mean there is no effort that goes in anymore. Effortlessness and choicelessnes, Inexpressible! We don't have to work out the diverting the mind to its source. We are already that source that very moment, All that need be is "Just Being That" Continuous, Consciousness, Bliss - Sat Chit Ananda.

Becoming aware that there is nothing more to know or become and just be!

Its greatest irony that it takes mammoth effort to do something and takes zero effort to just be! But we seem to like the former because, we want to believe that attaining Self is some fancy, some great effort goes in it and we need to go in to the deep relms of the heart and meditate and ..........

Bhagavan sang, Ayyye Ati Sulabham, Atma Vidya - Lo, the Self Knowledge is very easy.

fascinating..... Self

Bhagavan says - "One goes through all sorts of austerities to become what one already is"

Salutations to Bhagavan

3895
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 02:57:16 PM »
I felt
Vishnu Represents the Sat,
Brahma Represents Chit,
Shiva Represents Ananda.

Notice how all the three are connected in the above picture, yet they remain as one, Adviteeya. Ekamevaadviteeya

Salutations to Bhagavan

3896
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 02:41:49 PM »
Everything originates from the Self alone. The 'I' originates from the Self. Just imagine the image of Padmanabha, who is in ananthashayanam in cosmic ocean and from his Naabhi or navel comes Brahma. and Brahma is the creater of this Universe. In the same way. The 'I' which has originated from the Self is Brahma and the Self is Vishnu which is your real nature. Brahma can be equated with the 'mind' which creates everythng, (knowledge) which has created everything. The Self is Vishnu. and You are that Vishnu. Vishnu simple means all pervading.

Notice Vishnu Looks at Brahma. In the same way, the Self is a allknowing seer of mind of us, That which is behind our Mind. That is Self. That in whose presence all these are happening, that is Self! That arewe, That am I



Salutations to Bhagavan

3897
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 02:30:59 PM »
yes, absolutely! moreover, the mind is able to see, is able to get glimpse because, it knows intuitively. It knows it exists. I know I am, we all have that intuition within, we seldom give validity to our intuitions! That intuition is the light of Self. That intuition lies because, intuitively one knows one is That, one knows intuitively as I am. Mind itself is the projection of Self. Mind has sprung from the Self. Therefore, Mind is not different from the Self.

Mind is like the various branches and leaves and the root. The Self is the Seed from which the huge tree has sprouted.

The outward expression of Self is termed as 'Mind' and its inward is termed as Self. This again is just for the contentment of mind only, the self is least bothered and at the same time it isn't inert as well as mind and Self are not different.

Mind is the character what an actor plays But the Self is He who is, when it isn't acting!

its been a great topic :) gave an opportunity to discern myself further on Sat Chit Ananda :)

Salutations to Bhagavan

3898
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 01:48:51 PM »
Dear ramana1359,


if Bhagavad Gita appeals to you and if those quotes of Jnaneshwar provided the necessary insight and discernment to your questions, then I suggest you read the Bhagavd Gita by Jnaneshwar. It is called as "Dhyaaneshwari" It is an excellent commentary by Jnaneshwar. personally, I consider the Dhyaneshwari as the greatest commentary in the last 10 decades!

Its flawless and to the point and simple!

Salutations to Bhagavan

3899
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 01:42:22 PM »
Yes,

here the "knowing" has to culminate into "being"

It dawns further that Mind is not! there is nothing like mind at all. Bhagavan says, this discernment as merging of I into Self!

But it under the veil of our various Vasanas (predispositions, tendencies). Vasanas are the ones that pushes into ignorance again and again. Those habits, Karmas!

Upon knowing, the Agami Karma and Sanchita Karma are destroyed, but Prarabdha Karma remains, which drops off upon "being" the truth!

Salutations to Bhagavan

3900
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sat-chit-ananda
« on: October 24, 2011, 01:05:53 PM »
Yes, sugar is white and sweet but the "whiteness" comes from the eyes, sweetness from the taste.

Whitness comes from Mind, taste also comes from mind, before you knew what sweet was, how did you know sweetness? before you learnt what white was, how did you know what white is?

that way, before you learnt these, who were you? that you are. That is Consciousness! That consciousness IS, even before you learnt things, from the world, this is sky, this is blue, this is water, that is mud, even before knowing all these you were!

as a 8 day old baby, what did you know? were you not then? it is the same you even now, but only with modifications of "knowledge" which is all maya, illusion, there is no knowledge, no blue, no white, no sky, no water, no nothing, only you were, are, will be.

that is Sat Chit Ananda

Salutations to Bhagavan

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