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Why not? When the mind is Achalam, unperturbed why need any support? All these inventions have come about only because humans are basically unable to still their mind and bring it into perspective. it is constantly in a state of "Fluster" or agitated. So they invented objects and instruments to do the job for him.

It is like being unable to fight the villain, we run away due to cowardice! All inventions have only cause maximum diseases. Be it washing machine, Vacume cleaner, grinding machine. These were all a source of great exercise for a people and people, some years back had no sugar complaint, back aches, or any such modern ailments these days. 

Before the invention of Mobile phone, we remembered the telephone numbers of so many people? did we do it with great effort? but today, I do not know much numbers except very few important numbers! Such is the curse of gadgets and instruments on us!

When the mind is trained to remain calm, one needs no effort to remind oneself of anything.

Practice of Basic Yogasanas are specially very good for calming the mind to peace and we will eventually become less dependent on external gadgets and objects.

Mind needs to be clear. We should affirm first that the MIND IS IN OUR CONTROL. Mind is not by itself. WE ARE THE BOSS OF THE MIND AND WE CAN CONTROL THE MIND. We need to affirm this constantly.

Daily meditation facilitates this. This can be quickly sorted out by a little sincere practice with utmost earnestness.

To be totally free of any help is our true nature.

Hope this helped your query!

Salutations to Bhagavan

General topics / Re: Islam Advaitin? - Mansur Al Hallaj
« on: November 20, 2011, 04:47:09 PM »
All experiences of all devotees is the same. Be it the Sri Vaishnavite Azhwars or the Shaivaite Azhwars or the Christian Saints or the Sufi Saints or the Sikh saints or the Tribal devotees!

The experience of God of each faith is one and the same. We just call that experience differently. Some call it Advaita Bhava, Some call it Vaikunta, some call it ecstasy, Different people call it differently.

See how different people call Sugar in their language. The sweetness is the same, the sugar is the same. But different people call it differently. There is no Siddhantas in sweetness. Does the Cheeni consumed by an Indian different from the Asukal consumed by the Philippine? Does the experience of God by an Advaitin different from the Dvaitin, Visishtadvaitin or the Christian or Muslims or the sikhs?
   Asukal         -   Philippines
   Acucar         -   Portugal
   Azucar         -   Spain.
   Caxap         -   Russia.
   Chini            -   Bangladesh
   Cukier         -   Poland.
   Cukor         -   Hungary & Slovakia.
   Cukr            -   Czech Republic.
   Cukrus         -   Lithuania.
   Cukurs         -   Latvia.
   Gula            -   Malaysia & Indonesia.
   Huka         -   New Zealand.
   Kant            -   Kazakhstan, Kirghizistan
   Sahar         -   Chusvashia, Mordavia
   Sakyr         -   Mari El
   Satou         -   Japan.
   Secer         -   Yugoslavia & Croatia
   Seker         -   Turkey.
   Shaker         -    Uzbegistan
   Shiker         -   Tataristan
   Shaqari         -   Georgia
   Sheqer         -   Albania.
   Sigua         -   Ethiopia
   Siramamy/Sucre/Sugar   -   Malagassy Republic.
   Siucra         -   Ireland
   Siwgr         -   Wales.
   Sladkor         -   Yugoslavia & Slovenia.
   Socker         -   Sweden.
   Sokeri         -   Finland.
   Sucre         -   France / Catalonia.
   Sucroa         -   Gaelic (Scotland - Ireland)
   Sukero         -   Esperanto
   Sugar         -   UK, Australia,New Zealand & The USA
   Sugar/Sucre      -   Canada.
   Suhkur         -   Estonia.
   Suiker         -   The Netherlands.
   Suiker/Sucre      -   Belgium.
   Suiker/Sugar      -   South Africa.
   Suiker/Zucker/Sucre   -   Luxembourg.
   Sukker         -   Denmark & Norway.   
   Tang            -   Mandarin (China)
   Teng            -   Teochew (China)
   Wekep         -   Macedonia   
   Zahar         -   Romania.
   Zaxapn         -   Greece.
   Zucchero         -   Italy.
   Zucker         -   Germany & Austria
   Zucker/Sucre/Zucchero   -   Switzerland.
   3axap         -   Bulgaria.

Salutations to Bhagavan

Dear Self,

Why would you want to keep a reminder in first place? I am at a loss to understand your query really. Could you please highlight your question?

Salutations to Bhagavan

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Ramana on Cannabis?
« on: November 20, 2011, 04:27:21 PM »
Dear Sreeswaroop ji, nice smart anecdote :)

Dear OmNamahShivaya, how long can you depend on cannabis? when the day comes when you can no longer take the aid of cannabis, what will you do then?

When Bhagavan was given some some ganja and consumed it (knowingly or unknowingly) he remained the same, in the Nishta. There was no effect of the Ganja on him :D

Another similar instance was in the life of Sri Appaiah Dheekshitar, who voluntarily consumed a specific leaf whose effect makes the person insane. Sri Appaiah wanted to test his Nishta by consuming such a leaf and check if he still remained in the same Atma Nishta without losing awareness and give in to the effects of the leaf which causes insanity, and after consuming, Sri Appaiah was in the same Atma Nishta and he composed the famous Unmatta Panchakam which is his most famous work.

They have attained that state of exaltation without any aids. In the course of search for Self, one should practice "Ahimsa" - not cause harm to anyone at any cost. It also means, not to cause any harm to ones own body as well. We should care for our body with utmost love and not abuse our bodies with  alien substance for baser reasons of pleasure.

Salutations to Bhagavan

Arunachala / Re: Arunachala what does it mean to us all?
« on: November 19, 2011, 05:11:21 PM »
Bhagavan once said to his devotee Devaraja Mudaliar, "For everybody it is good to make circuit of the hill. It does not even matter whether one has faith in this Pradakshinam or not just as fire will burn all who touch it whether they believe it will or not, so the hill will do good to all those who go around it.. .. . .. Go round the hill once. You will see that it will attract you"

The Seed is sown the very moment one has the darshan of Arunachala. One becomes ready for emancipation.

All his life Bhagavan referred to the spiritual effect of the mountain. Once when he was asked why he had left his home and come to Arunachala, he answered that he had been drawn there by Arunachala itself. The force could not be denied. "Arunachala is within and not without. The Self is Arunachala." Another time, when he was asked about the nature of Arunachala he answered, "For the human eye it is only a form of earth and stone but its real form is jyoti (Divine Light) "Jnana"   

Bhagavan gave innumerable example which could be quoted, in particular his five hyms of Arunachala, but there is one thing that cannot be denied - if Bhagavan can be said to be said to emotionally attached to anything it was to Arunachala. He would just gaze constantly for long time unmoved from the old hall through the window. Bhagavan also often stated that the mountain is inhabited by Siddhars, who live on the hill in various forms, even as animals.

Whether casual or not, when even once, one has had the darshan of the holy hill, Arunachala registers a stamp in the deep realms of the heart of the person which slowly and steadily pulls one closer to Himself and as Himself eventually.

There is not a iota of doubt about this. do not even try to put effort to achieve devotion, just be, totally relaxed, don't even try to understand, the subconsciousness does everything. Just allow yourself to relax, do not even strain analysing about how's. Just Be, in tune with it. Thats it!

Salutations to Bhagavan

General topics / Re: Mathru Sri Sarada
« on: November 18, 2011, 06:38:03 PM »
Dear Krishna,

Do share more about Sri Lakshamaya Swamy and Sri Saradama.

You may already have seen this. Still I post for the benefit of others:

Salutations to Bhagavan

General topics / Re: Passing Time
« on: November 18, 2011, 04:31:51 PM »
In reality, there is no time to pass. The existence of time itself is a cause for bondage. it just discerned, that the urge to pass time exists only because of the wrong perception that time exists.

There is really no time, when we simply are! Off course, its easily said than done, but its truth!

There is really no time to pass ;)

Time exists parallelly with urge to do/act. It does not exist without the support of the other!

Salutations to Bhagavan

General topics / I am awareness
« on: November 18, 2011, 04:16:41 PM »

देहोभिमानपाशेन चिरं बद्धोऽसि पुत्रक ।
बोधोऽहं ज्ञानखंगेन तःनिकृत्य सुखी भव ॥ १-१४ ॥

You have long been trapped in the snare of identification with
the body. Sever it with the knife of knowledge that
"I am awareness", and be happy, my son.

 - Ashtavakra Gita

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Sadhana Tips
« on: November 18, 2011, 03:59:38 PM »
Practice to "simply be" practice to remain simply "still" without allowing yourself any action, just remain. Do not even commence Self Enquiry. Just Be, without thinking.

Just remain without holding on to anything. Without holding on to your thoughts, Sadhana or just anything.

Be without thinking for some time everyday, don't even get into the hold of your sadhana. Just remain free from anything.

Practice to be free, really free from everything! :)

Salutations to Bhagavan

General topics / Re: how to manage book collections
« on: November 18, 2011, 10:56:21 AM »
Dear Krishna,

Perhaps, I am offering an irrelevant response here ;)

More than worrying about managing book collection, its more important to manage the rack of our minds.

When we are able to manage the book rack of our mind with clarity, the same will reflect outside. Even without your own volition, your external environment becomes neat!

Therefore, always focus inwards, what is inside, manifests as outside!

Salutations to Bhagavan

All religions state one God. Does that mean, that one god stated by different religions become different? All religions point out to the one source from where everything has come.

Ekam Sat Viprah Bahuda Vadanti

Truth is one, the Sages call it differently.

How can anyone have two mothers? Mother is one.

Paths are different, Goal is One.

Sweets are different, Sweetness is one.

Beings are many, Soul is one

Salutations to Bhagavan

Dear Ramana,

Nice :)

I truly believe, there is one truth, which is nameless, which is theory-less, with is attributeless, which is state-less. One who realises that truth can never see anything as right or wrong, true or false, this or that!

Even whom we call a dvaitin or anybody, even after he realises, he would continue to pray with great fervor! Nothing changes for him.

One who realises, will himself not know it, he would simply continue and just the quest in him would have ended. He is, without any thirst.

Salutations to Bhagavan

General topics / Islam Advaitin? - Mansur Al Hallaj
« on: November 17, 2011, 03:41:16 PM »
Mansur Al Hallaj was a Persian mystic, revolutionary writer and pious teacher of Sufism most famous for his poetry, accusation of heresy and for his execution at the orders of the Abbasid Caliph Al-Muqtadir after a long, drawn-out investigation.

Al-Hallaj was born around 858 in Fars province of Persia to a cotton-carder (Hallaj means "cotton-carder" in Arabic). His grandfather was a Zoroastrian. His father lived a simple life, and this form of lifestyle greatly interested the young Al-Hallaj. As a youngster he memorized the Qur'an and would often retreat from worldly pursuits to join other mystics in study.

Al-Hallaj later married and made a pilgrimage to Mecca, where he stayed for one year, facing the mosque, in fasting and total silence. After his stay at the city, he traveled extensively and wrote and taught along the way. He traveled as far as India and Central Asia gaining many followers, many of whom accompanied him on his second and third trips to Mecca. After this period of travel, he settled down in the Abbasid capital of Baghdad.

Among other Sufis, Al-Hallaj was an anomaly. Many Sufi masters felt that it was inappropriate to share mysticism with the masses, yet Al-Hallaj openly did so in his writings and through his teachings. He thus began to make enemies. This was exacerbated by occasions when he would fall into trances which he attributed to being in the presence of God.

During one of these trances, he would utter Arabic: أنا الحق‎ Anā l-Ḥaqq "I am The Truth," which was taken to mean that he was claiming to be God, since al-Ḥaqq "the Truth" is one of the Ninety Nine Names of Allah. In another controversial statement, al-Hallaj claimed "There is nothing wrapped in my turban but God,"
and similarly he would point to his cloak and say, ما في جبتي إلا الله Mā fī jubbatī illā l-Lāh "There is nothing in my cloak but God." These utterances led to a long trial, and his subsequent imprisonment for 11 years in a Baghdad prison. He was publicly executed on March 26, 922.

Hallaj wrote many works in both prose and poetry. His best known written work is the Kitab al Tawasin, Arabic (كتاب الطواسين), which includes two brief chapters devoted to a dialogue of Satan (Iblis) and God, where Satan refuses to bow to Adam, although God asks him to do so. His refusal is due to a misconceived idea of God's uniqueness and because of his refusal to abandon himself to God in love. Hallaj criticizes the staleness of his adoration (Mason, 51-3). Al-Hallaj stated in this book:

"If you do not recognize God, at least recognise His sign, I am the creative truth -Ana al-Haqq-, because through the truth, I am eternal truth."

Mystical universalism

His method was one of "universalist mystical introspection: It was at the bottom of the heart that he looked for God and wanted to make others find Him. He believed one had to go beyond the forms of religious rites to reach divine reality. Thus, he used without hesitation the terminology of his opponents, which he set right and refined, ready to make himself hostage of the denominational logic of others." (Massignon: "Perspective Transhistorique," p. 76) Even beyond the Muslim faith, Hallaj was concerned with the whole of humanity, as he desired to communicate to them "that strange, patient and shameful, desire for God, which was characteristic for him." (Massignon, p. 77) This was the reason for his voyage beyond the Muslim world (shafa'a) to India and China.

Spiritual meaning of the pilgrimage to Mecca

In the trial that led to his execution, he was accused of preaching against the pilgrimage to Mecca (the Hajj), which he, however, had performed three times. In reality, his concern was more with the spiritual meaning of Hajj, and he thus "spoke of the spiritual efficacy and legitimacy of symbolic pilgrimage in one's own home." (Mason, 25) For him, the most important part of the pilgrimage to Mecca was the prayer at Mount Arafat, commemorating the sacrifice of Abraham in an offering of oneself.

Re-interpretation of the tawhid and desire for unification with God

Al-Hallaj believed that it was only God who could pronounce the Tawhid(Doctrine of oneness of God), whereas man's prayer was to be one of kun, surrender to his will: "Love means to stand next to the Beloved, renouncing oneself entirely and transforming oneself in accordance to Him." (Massignon, 74) He spoke of God as his "Beloved," "Friend" "You," and felt that "his only self was (God)," to the point that he could not even remember his own name." (Mason, 26)


Mansur believed in union with the Divine, that God was within him, and that he and God had become one and the same. Mansur was cut into many pieces because in the state of ecstacy he exclaimed Ana al Haq "I am the truth". He was executed in public in Baghdad. They cut him into pieces and then they burnt his remains. He kept repeating "I am the Truth" as they kept cutting his arms, legs, tongue and finally his head. He was smiling, even as they chopped off his head. Al-Hallaj wanted to testify of this relationship to God to others thus even asking his fellow Muslims to kill him (Massignon, 79) and accepting his execution, saying that "what is important for the ecstatic is for the One to reduce him to oneness." (Massignon, 87) He also referred to the martyrdom of Christ, saying he also wanted to die "in the supreme confession of the cross" (Olivier Clément. Dio è carita, p. 41) Like Christ, he gave his execution a redemptive significance, believing as he did that his death "was uniting his beloved God and His community of Muslims against himself and thereby bore witness in extremis to the tawhid (the oneness) of both." (Mason, 25) For his desire of oneness with God, many Muslims criticized him as a "'crypto-Christian' for distorting the monotheistic revelation in a Christian way." (Mason, 25). His death is described by Attar as a heroic act, as when they are taking him to court, a Sufi asks him:"What is love?" He answers: "You will see it today, tomorrow, and the day after tomorrow." They killed him that day, burned him the next day and threw his ashes to the wind the day after that. "This is love," Attar says. His legs were cut off, he smiled and said, "I used to walk the earth with these legs, now there's only one step to heaven, cut that if you can." And when his hands were cut off he paints his face with his own blood, when asked why, he says: "I have lost a lot of blood, and I know my face has turned yellow, I don't want to look pale-faced (as of fear)... ."

The writings of al-Hallaj are important to Sufi groups. His example is seen by some as one that should be emulated, especially his calm demeanor in the face of torture and his forgiving of his tormentors. Many honor him as an adept who came to realize the inherent divine nature of all men and women. While many Sufis theorize that Hallaj was a reflection of God's truth, scholars of the other Islamic schools of thought continue to see him as a heretic and a deviant. The supporters of Mansur have interpreted his statement as meaning, "God has emptied me of everything but Himself." According to them, Mansur never denied God's Oneness and was a strict monotheist. However, he believed that the actions of man when performed in total accordance with God's pleasure, lead to a blissful unification with him. His life was studied extensively by the French scholar of Islam, Louis Massignon.

(Source: Wikipedia)

Salutations to Bhagavan

i just remembered a famous quote -

"where science ends, spirituality begins"

Most times, genius-ness has only caused irreparable damage to the world and people. What seems genius, when carefully discerned,  reveals its stupidity!

Salutations to Bhagavan

Basically every name of God is a "tatva" Name is simply not a name for convenience or purpose of just recognition, but, every name has in it, a lamp of knowledge that signifies the ultimate reality or the Truth.

For instance:

Ar Rahim means "The Exceedingly Merciful" that Self is like the mercy and compassion of Bhagavan Ramana.

Jehovah means something to the effect of "That which causes to become"

Jesus is perhaps derived from the name "Joshua" which means "who delivers" or deliverance

Every deity's name in Hindu has a significance.

So, when a devotee repeats these names earnestly, he is tuning/connecting himself with the highest truth in the cosmos, to the source. It does not matter, if one says so, with proper understanding, still it has its good effects. The vibrations of the utterances of these names are beyond the realms of language and understanding.

Salutations to Bhagavan

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