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General Discussion / Hell is not punishment
« on: October 06, 2012, 08:35:18 PM »
Hell is not punishment,
it's training.

(Shunryu Suzuki)

General Discussion / Taming the mind
« on: October 06, 2012, 08:12:38 PM »
"Just hearing about patience does not mean you are experiencing it now or will easily develop it. To lay the ground for training the mind, you must first tame the mind. To tame the mind, it is extremely important to do the basic shamata [tranquility meditation, calm abiding] practice, which develops calmness and tranquility. Then you can add the practice of patience, understanding the benefits of patience and reminding yourself to take advantage of the available antidotes."

(Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche)

General Discussion / How to take insults
« on: October 06, 2012, 08:08:31 PM »
On one occasion, the Buddha was invited by one person for alms to his house. As invited, the Buddha visited the house of the person. Instead of entertaining Him, the person poured forth a torrent of abuse with the filthiest of words. The Buddha politely inquired:

"Do visitors come to your house, good person?"
"Yes," he replied.
"What do you do when they come?"
"Oh, we prepare a sumptuous feast."
"What do you if they refuse to receive the meal?"
"Why, we gladly partake of them ourselves."
"Well, good person, you have invited me for alms and entertained me with abuse which I decline to accept. So now it belongs to you."

The Buddha did not retaliate but politely gave back what the person had given Him. Retaliate not, the Buddha advised.

"Hatred does not cease through hatred but through love alone they cease."

(Akkosa Sutta)

General Discussion / Patience
« on: October 06, 2012, 08:03:03 PM »
"Some people feel patience is showing weakness or pessimism.

But, actually, patience shows the strength and clarity of mind, which are based on wisdom and compassion. Without proper wisdom and compassion, one cannot practice patience."

(Khenpo Konchog Gyaltsen Rinpoche)

General Discussion / Anger begins when...
« on: October 06, 2012, 08:00:15 PM »
"When reason ends, then anger begins.
Therefore, anger is a sign of weakness."

(Dalai Lama)

General Discussion / Discovery of Dharma
« on: October 06, 2012, 07:53:55 PM »
Assailed by afflictions, we discover Dharma
And find the way to liberation. Thank you, evil forces!

When sorrows invade the mind, we discover Dharma
And find lasting happiness. Thank you, sorrows!

Through harm caused by spirits we discover Dharma
And find fearlessness. Thank you, ghosts and demons!

Through people's hate we discover Dharma
And find benefits and happiness. Thank you, those who hate us!

Through cruel adversity, we discover Dharma
And find the unchanging way. Thank you, adversity!

Through being impelled to by others, we discover Dharma
And find the essential meaning. Thank you, all who drive us on!

We dedicate our merit to you all, to repay your kindness.

(Gyalwa Longchenpa, source:

General Discussion / Despondency
« on: October 06, 2012, 07:50:21 PM »
If there is a remedy when trouble strikes,
What reason is there for despondency?
And if there is no help for it,
What is the use of being sad?

So come what may, I'll never harm
My cheery happiness of mind.
Depression never brings me what I want;
My virtue will be warped and marred by it.


General Discussion / Transforming Negative Emotions
« on: October 06, 2012, 07:44:51 PM »
"Two people have been living in you all your life. One is the ego, garrulous, demanding, hysterical, calculating; the other is the hidden spiritual being, whose still voice of wisdom you have only rarely heard or attended to. As you listen more and more to the teachings, contemplate them, and integrate them into your life, your inner voice, your innate wisdom of discernment, what we call in Buddhism “discriminating awareness,” is awakened and strengthened, and you begin to distinguish between its guidance and the various clamorous and enthralling voices of ego. The memory of your real nature, with all its splendor and confidence, begins to return to you.

You will find, in fact, that you have uncovered in yourself your own wise guide, and as the voice of your wise guide, or discriminating awareness, grows stronger and clearer, you will start to distinguish between its truth and the various deceptions of the ego, and you will be able to listen to it with discernment and confidence."

(Sogyal Rinpoche)

General Discussion / mental calmness
« on: October 06, 2012, 07:41:43 PM »
"We all know that on days when we are in a good mood, when the whole world seems to be smiling at us, we can accept predicaments or bad news more easily than if our mind is already upset, frustrated or troubled, when the slightest incident might cause us to explode with negative emotions. If we make a habit of being governed by these negative emotions, we will lose our appetite, sleep badly, perhaps become ill, and lose a few years of our life as a result. So mental calmness is very important."

(Dalai Lama)

General Discussion / Disciple and Master
« on: October 06, 2012, 07:34:45 PM »
When one Guru was dying, one of his deciple asked him "Guruji, who was your master?" He said, "I had thousands of masters. If I just relate their names it will take months, years and it is too late. But three masters I will certainly tell you about.

One was a thief. Once I got lost in the desert, and when I reached a village it was very late, everything was closed. But at last I found one man who was trying to make a hole in t he wall of a house. I asked him where I could stay and he said 'At this time of night it will be difficult, but you can say with me - if you can stay with a thief'.And the man was so beautiful. I stayed for one month! And each night he would say to me, 'Now I am going to my work. You rest, you pray.' When he came back I would ask 'Could you get anything?' He would say, 'Not tonight. But tomorrow I will try again, God willing.' He was never in a state of hopelessness, he was always happy.

When I was meditating and meditating for years on end and nothing was happening, many times the moment came when I was so desperate, so hopeless,that I thought to stop all this nonsense. And suddenly I would remember the thief who would say every night, 'God willing, tomorrow it is going to happen.'

And my second master was a dog. I was going to the river, thirsty and a dog came. He was also thirsty. He looked into the river, he saw another dog there - his own image - and became afraid. He would bard and run away, but his thirst was so much that he would come back. Finally, despite his fear, he just jumped into the water, and the image disappeared. And I knew that a message had come to me from God: one has to jump in spite of all fears.

And the third master was a small child. I entered a town and a child was carrying a lit candle. He was going to the mosque to put the candle there.

'Just joking,' I asked the boy, 'Have you lit the candle yourself?' He said, 'Yes sir.' And I asked, 'There was a moment when the candle was unlit, then there was a moment when the candle was lit. Can you show me the source from which the light came?' And the boy laughed, blew out the candle, and said, 'Now you have seen the light going. Where has it gone? You will tell me!'

My ego was shattered, my whole knowledge was shattered. And that moment I felt my own stupidity. Since then I dropped all my knowledgeability.

It is true that I had no master. That does not mean that I was not a disciple - I accepted the whole existence as my master. My Disciplehood was a greater involvement than yours is. I trusted the clouds, the trees. I trusted existence as such. I had no master because I had millions of masters I learned from every possible source. To be a disciple is a must on the path. What does it mean to be a disciple? It means to be able to learn. To be available to learn to be vulnerable to existence. With a master you start learning to learn.

"The master is a swimming pool where you can learn how to swim. Once you have learned, all the oceans are yours."

A very soothing video indeed!

Like to share some videos, that i made, in the following link:

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: October 06, 2012, 03:27:54 PM »
T.K.S.Iyer, a disciple, was agitated because someone in the town had spoken disparagingly of the Master and he had failed to retort. So he asked the Master what penalty should be paid for his failure to defend him. The Maharshi replied, “Patience, more patience; tolerance, more tolerance.”

General Discussion / Unpleasant Feelings
« on: October 06, 2012, 03:21:12 PM »
just a contemplation. Unpleasant feelings are blessing in disguise, as opportunity for us to introspect and transcend, go beyond these feelings.

Once Velacheri Ranga Iyer asked Bhagavan,"How is it that I find your bhaktas instead of becoming less and less possessed of ego-sense as the result of contact with you, seem to be even more full of ego sense?" Bhagavan replied, "What is inside must come out. Suppose you keep the water in a pot on the fire, as the heat increases, the water must bubble, boil over and evaporate." I gathered that as we go on visiting Bhagavan, the ego comes out and finally disappears.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 06, 2012, 02:12:14 PM »
Sri Nochur has at many instances spoken about Sri Chandrashekhara Bharthi Swamigal in his pravachanams.

I really wish i were at chennai today, i request, Sri Ravi, kindly post a brief report, if you get to attend the pravachanam.

a year, couple of years back, when i used to visit Ramanashramam, i used to get opportunity to see Sri Nochur sitting in the Samadhi hall, alone and silently, also got chance to converse with him, very briefly. But, he is getting busier by the day, and not easy to find him these days. I was being attached to Sri Nochur, may be thats why, i cant find him these days.

Atma is the only Guru, which is always with us.

Forum advice, news & etiquette / Re: Tolerance
« on: October 06, 2012, 01:18:10 PM »

As far as this forum goes we need to follow what Graham has laid out as the basic rules for this forum
   This is a  Forum dedicated to Arunachala and Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi.  That is the Sashtra  for this  forum and we need to respect that . Let us keep it quite simple with that .
Om Peace .

Mr. atmavichar100

I do not see myself contradicted.

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