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General Discussion / Re: Common Discussion
« on: November 02, 2012, 06:23:29 PM »
Devotee: If it is a question of doing something one considers wrong, and thereby saving some one else from a great wrong, should one do it or refrain from doing it?

Bhagavan: What is right and wrong? There is no standard by which to judge something to be right another to be wrong. Opinions differ according to the nature of the individual and according to the surroundings. They are again ideas and nothing more. Do not worry about them, but get rid of thoughts. If you always remain in the right, then right will prevail in the world.

(The devotee was not satisfied with this answer and asked for further elucidation.)

Sri Bhagavan then pointed out that to see wrong in another is one's own wrong. The discrimination between right and wrong is the origin of sin. One's own sin is reflected outside and the individual in ignorance superimposes it on another. The best course for one is to reach the state in which such discrimination does not arise. Do you see wrong or right in your sleep? Be asleep even in the wakeful state, abide as the Self and remain uncontaminated by what goes on around you. Moreover, however much you might advise them, you hearers may not rectify themselves. Be in the right yourself and remain silent. Your silence will have more effect than your words or deeds. That is the development of will power. Then the world becomes the Kingdom of Heaven, which is within you.

- From Talks

Sri Prashant, we need not defend the Guru to anybody. Let people have their say. What is winning or loosing in discussing the credentials of a Guru? In a way, it is good, you lost, loosing is winning! victory broods pride, 'my Guru is great' Not many realise true winning is in loosing! Don't have strong notions of right and wrongs!

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: November 02, 2012, 05:13:01 PM »
I received this article from Sri Ramanaduliji, for the benefit of all, i got this translated into English, from Tamil. It is highly inspirational! Many thanks to Ramanaduliji, and my sister in law for translation!

This is an incident that took place in the life of Mahaperiyava, the sage of Kanchi. This is a translation (not verbatim though) of an article written by someone and abridged by someone else.

This incident took place en route Srisailam when Mahaperiyava was touring with His retinue. A royal welcome had been accepted in Kurnool, and a speech also delivered. When the yatra was continuing further, they encountered a small village. Suddenly it started to rain. When someone asked him to step on a coach, He refused saying that it was unthinkable to do so when all others were getting drenched. Slowly the rain turned torrential, stifling further movement. An old Shiva temple was spotted and Periyava decided to stay there. News that He was there, spread like wildfire and people came with Punakumbham. After blessing everyone, the journey was resumed. In a village about 8 miles from there, the zamindar and the people of the village crowded round Him and requested Him to stay in their midst. Accepting that, Periyava announced that He would stay there for 21 days. A place to stay was arranged. The camp was set up quickly.

The following morning, Periyava had gone for His bath. The officials in the Math were getting worried. There were no vilva leaves for the puja. Showing a three leafed vilva, they asked the people of the village to bring a basket. But it was nowhere to be found. It was 10.30. Looking at the articles for puja, He enquired if vilva leaves were not there for the puja. The Math official haltingly said, "the zamindar has sent his men to look for it. It should be here soon." Silently Periyava went to the cowshed in the backyard of the place, found a stone slab and sat in meditation. An hour rolled by. While the officials were wondering if the Chandramouleeswara puja or Bhiksha was even going to happen that day, and how they were going to spend 20 more days in this place, Periyava opened His eyes with a smile. An errand boy of the Math ran in with a basket full of lush green vilva leaves. Periyava was happy. "You said it was not available, but here it is! Who is it who has plucked the leaves with such Shraddha, without the least damage, untarnished and fresh? Now that the vilva leaves are here, let us begin the puja". Saying thus, He started the puja. It was completed and prasadam was also given. "Call the person who brought this, let them also take prasadam", said Periyava. Trembling, the Srikaryam of the Math said, "we do not know who brought it. It was near a slab in a mantapam. We do not know who left it there." Periyava laughingly said, "perhaps Chandramouleeswara Himself brought it for His own puja!" The whole day went off well in puja, music, and speeches. While the whole village was rejoicing, the Srikaryam of the math alone was in a petrified state. His sole thought was - what do I do tomorrow?!!

The following morning he summoned the same errand boy who had brought the leaves and said, "oh saviour, go back to the same place and see if you find the vilva leaves in the same corner today too.. please". And there it was! A basket full of fresh vilva leaves. Getting ready for the puja, Mahaperiyava surveyed the articles and His gaze fell on the vilva leaves. He cast a meaningful glance at the Srikaryam who said, "yes Periyava. This is a basket that was stealthily left by someone today too".

Mahaperiyava told him, "find out who brings it and keeps it there. Inspect that place from dawn tomorrow. Bring the person to me right away." In deference to His command, the Srikaryam went and stood waiting to catch the person who brought the vilva leaves. At around 8.30, a Telugu boy with a tangled tuft, a dirty dhothi with mula kaccham (typical Andhra way of wearing a dhothi) came in. As he left the basket and was getting ready to slip out unnoticed, the Srikaryam came and stood in his way. The boy fell at his feet. In his half baked Telugu, the Srikaryam said, " Have a bath. Comb your hair and tie it into a proper knot, wear washed clothes and some vibhuti on your forehead and come this evening. I will take you to meet Swamigal". The boy nodded and slipped away. At 3 in the afternoon, hair dripping oil, tied into a neat knot, bright dhothi and forehead smeared with vibhuti, the boy appeared. Periyava's eyes which were searching for something, blossomed when they spotted the boy. Prostrating himself, the boy went and stood in a corner. Periyava beckoned to him and asked, "who are you my boy, and what is your name?" The boy replied, "Purandara Kesavulu, aiyya". "How do you speak Tamil?" "My father taught me to speak the language. My mother died when I was two. We are from Usilampatti near Madurai. My father brought me here when I was 6 to eke out a livelihood. We herd cows in the Zamin. Never been to school. My father would give his life up for music. He used to sing songs of Thyagaraja Swami, Purandaradasa and so on. He taught them to me as well. He is no more. Died two years ago. Now I herd cows. I am twelve."

"Alright! I am told that there are no vilva leaves around. Where did you find them?"

   "While taking the cows out to graze, at the foot of a mountain, some distance from here, my father once told me - hey Purandara, do you see those three leaved trees? Those are vilva leaves. They are very auspicious for lord Shiva. Three days ago, people were frantically looking for these leaves. Afraid that they would not take the leaves if they knew that a lowly cowherd was bringing them, I left them and vanished, taking care not to be seen. I swear on God, this is the truth. Please forgive me."

Looking him square in the eye, Mahaperiyava asked, " Purandarakesavulu, if there is anything you need or desire, tell me. I will get the Math people to do it for you". Tears streaming down his eyes, he replied, "Siva Siva .... no no .... my father has told me that I should have no desires. There are only two wishes I have. One, I will disclose now, and the other, when Saami is leaving this town." Hearing this, with great tenderness, Mahaperiyava asked him what his first wish was. "Saami, my father has taught me songs of Purandara dasa and Thyagaraja. I wish to sing them before you and want Saami to hear them."

Mahaperiyava was besides Himself with joy. "So be it. You sing and I will hear it. Chandramouleeswara's grace is always with you. You will always be blessed." Saying thus, He gave him prasadam and also removed a thulasi mala from His own neck and gave it to him. Until Periyava's stay in town, He got both the vilva leaves and the songs. The boy had a mellifluous voice, and his occasional mispronunciation was corrected by Periyava who enjoyed the music.

21 days later, Periyava was leaving the village. The people of the village were feeling desolate and abandoned. Giving prasadams, Periyava's eyes searched something. In a corner, hugging a pole, tears unabashedly rolling down his cheeks, stood Purandara. Beckoning to him with a gesture of His hands, He asked, "Purandara, you said you would tell me your second wish on the day of my leaving. What is it that you wish?"

"Saami, we have had several conversations while tending to the cows. My father used to say - look here Purandara, we should only ask one wish of God. When we die, we should get Moksham. That is the only thing to ask - he used to say. Saami, please bless me that I should get moksham."

Mahaperiyava was aghast! Then the Para Brahmam blessed him. "Purandara, in due time, I will pray to Chandramouleeswara to grant you moksham. You go happily!" Then, summoning the zamindar, He instructed that everything relating to Purandarakeshava was to be informed to the Math.

Many years rolled past. One afternoon at about 2, Periyava got up suddenly, and walked to the tank in the Kamakshi temple, took a dip and sat in meditation. At the stroke of every hour, a dip, and then meditation again. This went on until six in the evening. Finally, in the evening, Periyava came out of the tank. It was about seven then. An official of the Math came hastily and stood in front of Him. In reply to the question which He asked with His eyes, the person replied, "a telegram from Kurnool saying - Purandarakeshavulu serious. We do not know who has sent this".

This is what Periyava told the Srikaryam - "Purandara keshavan is no more. He succumbed to a fever, and has gone on to his next life. He has six more births to go through. I prayed to Chandramouleeswara that after those six births, he has to attain liberation. To that end, I did adequate japam and prayers for all six births. I have done My duty towards that pure soul".


(My note - I have also read another version of the same story, where Mahaperiyava is supposed to have said that He nullified all the births that the boy was to take, and sent him straight to moksha. Not that it makes too much of a difference. In the vast span of eternity, 6 births is a mere blip, especially when one has the assurance of liberation at the end of it!) 

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Comments
« on: November 02, 2012, 04:31:51 PM »
Sir, yes, even among the close very direct devotees as well, only rare ones got this rare blessing. Indeed, they are blessed.

General topics / Re: Bhajana Dhyana
« on: November 02, 2012, 04:16:57 PM »
என்ன தவம் செய்தனை யசோதா
என்ன தவம் செய்தனை
எங்கும் நிறை பரப்ரம்மம் – அம்மா வென்றழைக்க

Oh Yashoda, what penance did you do
to have that ParaBrahmam call you - mother!,
what penance did you do!

(என்ன தவம்)

ஈரேழு புவனங்கள் படைத்தவனைக் – கையில்
ஏந்திச் சீராட்டி பாலூட்டி தாலாட்ட – நீ

To hold the one who created all the fourteen worlds,
to hug, pamper, feed your milk and sing a lullaby for him ....

(என்ன தவம்)

பிரமனும் இந்தரனும் மனதில் பொறாமை கொள்ள – உரலில்
கட்டி வாய் பொத்திக் கெஞ்ச வைத் தாயே – நீ

Much to the jealousy of even Brahma and Indra,
you bound him to the mortar, silenced him and made him plead ...

(என்ன தவம்)

சனகாதியர் தவ யோகம் செய்து வருந்திச் சாதித்ததை
புனித மாதே எளிதில் பெற – நீ

What the Sanakadi Rishis obtained after putting themselves
through severe penance and Yoga
You attained oh so easily, how did you  - oh Yashoda

It will be all right in the end

Decades ago, as a student, I used to gaze with admiration at the photo of a youth in a loin cloth before whom my father used to prostrate. The last words of my father before losing consciousness were about Bhagavan and about how eagerly he had been looking forward to spending some years in Sri Ramanasramam. These words were ringing in my ears when I visited Sri Ramanasramam in 1930. I was specially blessed on this occasion as I saw him all alone in the dining hall in the early hours of the morning. I caught hold of his holy feet
as Markandeya caught the lingam and told him about the last words of my father. With tender love beaming out of his eyes, he said that my father had taken leave of him before passing away! When I beseeched him to bless me, he said, “It will be all right in the end”. Those words of benediction have rung in my ears and brought me hope in moments which I cherish in my heart as the most worthwhile event in my life.

(A.K. Ramachandran)


     Bhakti is not different from mukti. Bhakti is being as the Self. One is always That.
He realizes It by the means he adopts. What is bhakti? To think of God. That means
only one thought prevails to the exclusion of all other thoughts. That thought is of
God, which is the Self, or it is the self surrendered unto God. When He has taken
you up, nothing else will assail you. The absence of thought is bhakti. It is also mukti.
Bhakti is Jnana Mata, i.e., the mother of jnana.

To a devotee who was praying that she should have more frequent visions of Siva,
Bhagavan said, “Surrender to Him and abide by His Will, whether He appears or
disappears; await His pleasure. If you ask Him to do as you like it is not surrender
but command to God. You cannot have Him obey you and yet think you have
surrendered. He knows what is best and when and how to do it. His is the burden.
You have no longer any cares. All your cares are His. Such is surrender. That is bhakti.”

General Discussion / prAshanam - Discussion
« on: November 02, 2012, 10:13:22 AM »

प्रातः Morning

सूर्यश्च मा मन्युश्च मन्युपतयश्च मन्यु॑कृते॒भ्यः । पापेभ्यो॑ रक्ष॒न्ताम् । यद्रात्र्या पाप॑मका॒र्षम् । मनसा वाचा॑ हस्ता॒भ्याम् । पद्भ्यामुदरे॑ण शि॒श्ना । रात्रि॒स्तद॑वलु॒म्पतु । यत्किञ्च॑ दुरि॒तं मयि॑ । इदमहंमाममृ॑तयो॒नौ । सूर्ये ज्योतिषि जुहो॑मि स्वा॒हा ॥

sUryashca mA manyushca manyupatayashca manyukRutEbhyah . pApEbhyO rakShantAm . yadrAtryA pApamakArSham . manasA vAcA hastAbhyAm . padbhyAmudarENa shishnA . rAtristadavalumpatu . yatkinca duritam mayi . idamaham mAmamRutayOnau . sUryE jyOtishi juhOmi svAhA ..

sUryashca - Sun (Effulgence of wisdom, Self)
mA - us (my)
manyushca - and passion, vigour, zeal, ardour (also - mind, anger, spirit of temper)
manyupatayashca - and the Master of passion (passion, vigour, zeal, ardour [also - mind, anger, spirit of temper])
manyukRutEbhyah - actions done out of passion (passion, vigour, zeal, ardour [also - mind, anger, spirit of temper])
pApEbhyO - Sins
rakShantAm - Protect
yad - That
rAtryA - Night
pApamamakArSham - Sins committed
manasA vAcA hastAbhyAm - (by) mind, speech and two hands
padbhyAm-udarENa-shishnA - (by) two feet, stomach and the sexual organ
rAtri - Night
tad - that
avalumpatu - may (finely be) removed
yatkinca - all that also
duritam mayi - bad (actions) of mine
idamaham - This or these, I
mAm - me
amRuta - nectarine
yOnau - Origin of life (Origin of Sins) Source, Place of birth, Origin, abode
sUryE-jyOtishi - Sun Supreme Light (Effulgence of wisdom, Self)
juhOmi - offer, worship, sacrifice, surrender, oblation, (to be eaten, to be consumed),
svAhA - May blessings rest on, May it be well done

O Sun (Effulgence of wisdom, Self), who art the the Master of passions (vigour, zeal, ardour [also - mind, anger, spirit of temper], everything), (may Thou please be pleased), to protect us (me) from various sinful actions done (committed) out of passion (vigour, zeal, ardour [also - mind, anger, spirit of temper]). Sins committed in the nights, sins committed (by) mind, speech and two hands, two feet, stomach and the sexual organ. May all these (sins) be finely removed (chamfered) along with all other bad actions of mine, be consumed (offered, worshiped, sacrificed, surrendered, oblation, to be eaten) in Thou, who art the Nectarine Source (of everything [including the origin of Sins], of life, creation, Place of birth, Origin, abode) and may Thy blessings rest on (May it be well done)

सायंकाले Evening

अग्निश्च मा मन्युश्च मन्युपतयश्च मन्यु॑कृते॒भ्यः। पापेभ्यो रक्षं॒न्ताम् । यदन्हा पाप॑मका॒र्षम् । मनसा वाचा॑ हस्ता॒भ्याम् । पद्भ्यामुदरे॑ण शि॒श्ना । अह॒स्तद॑वलु॒पतु । यत्किञ्च॑ दुति॒तं मयि॑ । इदमहं माममृ॑तयो॒नौ । सत्ये ज्योतिषि जुहो॑मि स्वा॒हा ॥

agnishca mA mAnyushca manyupatayashca manyukRutEbhyah . pApEbhyO rakShantAm . yadanhA pApamakArSham .
manasA vAcA hastAbhyAm . padbhyAmudarENa shishnA . ahastadavalumpatu . yatkinca duritam mayi . idamaham mAmamRutayOnau .
satyE jyOtishi juhOmi svAhA ..

Just small changes are there in the evening, instead of

सूर्यश्च मा मन्युश्च मन्युपतयश्च मन्यु॑कृते॒भ्यः ।
sUryashca mA manyushca manyupatayashca manyukRutEbhyah .

It is

अग्निश्च मा मन्युश्च मन्युपतयश्च मन्यु॑कृते॒भ्यः ।
agnishca mA mAnyushca manyupatayashca manyukRutEbhyah


instead of

सूर्ये ज्योतिषि जुहो॑मि स्वा॒हा ॥
sUryE jyOtishi juhOmi svAhA ..

it is

सत्ये ज्योतिषि जुहो॑मि स्वा॒हा ॥
satyE jyOtishi juhOmi svAhA ..

Instead of suryashca, as the Sun has set, that Effulgence continues in the same spirit as agni or fire. Similarly, at the end it is prayed as follows:

satye - the blaze of Eternal Truth, may Thy blessings rest on (May it be well done)

General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: November 02, 2012, 08:34:54 AM »


"A lover of God prays to the Divine Mother:
O Mother, I am very much afraid of selfish actions.
Such actions have desires behind them,
and if I perform them I shall have to reap their fruit.
But it is very difficult to work in a detached spirit.
I shall certainly forget Thee, O Mother,
if I involve myself in selfish actions.
Therefore I have no use for them. May my actions,
O Divine Mother, be fewer every day till I attain Thee.
May I perform, without attachment to the results,
only what actions is absolutely necessary for me.
May I have great love for Thee as I go on with my
few duties. May I not entangle myself in new work
so long as I do not realize Thee. But I shall perform
it if I receive Thy command. Otherwise not'"



The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

General Discussion / Re: Common Discussion
« on: November 01, 2012, 11:33:56 PM »

It is difficult to be the mother of this boy...  so innocent was yashOdA mA, this boy here, is the creater of His mother as well, what to do with this boy, heart does not reconcile with his pranks, his innocence, pranks, his lies, everything about him is so sweet. What could yashOdA mA could have done?

General Discussion / Re: Common Discussion
« on: November 01, 2012, 11:20:16 PM »
Sri Jewel, you posted yet again this naughty boy Krishna, it felt like urge from within asking me to post one more of his leela now itself!

Sri Ravi, excellent article, thank you.

Not getting any benefit is the biggest benefit!

Dear friend, even not "not getting" is a problem. The problem is expecting any benefit says the Lord teaches in Bhagavad Gita.

Sri Hari, yes, what you have said is true! Sri Prashant, i tried to say, not getting any benefit is the biggest benefit, that is to say, the one that is expecting benefit is killed little by little, one by one, to be annihilated completely some time or the other, isn't this the biggest benefit? Who remains to get any benefit? If the one that gets benefits is killed in the next blink!

It is not the benefit that is important, but rather, it is the killing of the beneficiary, that is the true benefit! Who remains to benefit? (nobody!) Even if one gets some benefits, that will soon be killed, and so on, endlessly, till it is completely annihilated! Yet, even though there is no benefit, still it is a benefit, greatest benefit, for nobody, which yet, remains, to own such a benefit  (which classically can be said, as both the beneficiary and the benefit is one and the same!) so this is the greatest benefit we can get i.e, not getting anything, as the one that is killed ceases from accepting any benefits, and because of which, there is nobody to reap any benefits, and it happens to be the greatest benefit!

General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: November 01, 2012, 09:47:32 PM »

This Pure Atman is unattached, and one cannot see It.
If salt is mixed with water, one cannot see the salt with the eyes.

That which is the Pure Atman is the Great Cause, the Cause of the Cause.
That gross, the subtle, the casual, and the Great Cause. The five elements
are gross. Mind, buddhi, and ego are subtle. Prakriti, the Primal Energy,
is the cause of all these. Brahman, Pure Atman, is the Cause of the cause.

This Pure Atman alone is our real nature. What is jnAna? It is to know
one's own Self and keep the mind in It. It is to know the Pure Atman.

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

Not getting any benefit is the biggest benefit!

I did not find a satisfactory translation.

சிந்து நதியின் மிசை நிலவினிலே
சேர நன்னாட்டிளம் பெங்களுடனே
சுந்தரத் தெலுங்கினில் பாட்டிசைத்து
தோனிகள் ஓட்டி விளையாடி வருவோம்

ஆஹ் ஹ ஹ...

கங்கை நதிப்புரத்து கோதுமைப் பண்டம்
கங்கை நதிப்புரத்து கோதுமைப் பண்டம்
காவிரி வெற்றிலைக்கு மாருகொல்லுவோம்
சிங்க மராட்டியர்தம் கவிதைகொண்டு
சேரத்து தந்தங்கல் பரிசலிப்போம்
சிங்க மராட்டியர்தம் கவிதைகொண்டு
சேரத்து தந்தங்கல் பரிசலிப்போம்

மனசிதி நீகோசம் மனுகட நீகோசம்
மனசிதி நீகோசம் மனுகட நீகோசம்
மமதா அவேதம் மாயனி மதுபாசம்
மமதா அவேதம் மாயனி மதுபாசம்
மனசிதி நீகோசம் மனுகட நீகோசம்

நீ கண் கணராகம்
ஆஹ் ஹ ஹான்
நீ மதி அனுராகம்
ஆஹ் ஹ ஹான்
மன ஈ வைபோகம்
ஆஹ் ஹ ஹான்
பஹுதன் அலயோகம்
ஆஹ் ஹ ஹான்
வலபுல புல்லாசம்
ஆஹ் ஹ ஹான்
நெரபுல தெரஹாசம்
ஆஹ் ஹ ஹான்
வஹதென அவாஅகஸ்ம்
ஆஹ் ஹ ஹான்
சா நலிவுலு ஆவேசம்
அஹ் ஹ ஹ....

சிங்கலத் தீவினுக்கோர் பாலமமைப்போம்
சேதுவை மேடுடுத்தி வீதி அமைப்போம்
சிங்கலத் தீவினுக்கோர் பாலமமைப்போம்
சேதுவை மேடுடுத்தி வீதி அமைப்போம்
வங்கத்தில் ஓடி வரும் நீரின் மிகையால்
மையத்து நாடுகலில் பயிர் செய்துவோம்
வங்கத்தில் ஓடி வரும் நீரின் மிகையால்
மையத்து நாடுகலில் பயிர் செய்துவோம்

     sindhu nadhiyin misai nilavinilae
chaera nannaattiLam pengaLudanae
sundharath thelunginil paattisaiththu
thoanigaL oatti viLaiyaadi varuvoam

aah ha ha...

gangai nadhippuraththu goadhumaip paNdam
gangai nadhippuraththu goadhumaip paNdam
kaaviri vetrilaikku maarukolluvoam
singa maraattiyartham kavidhaikondu
saeraththu thandhangal parisalippoam
singa maraattiyartham kavidhaikondu
saeraththu thandhangal parisalippoam

Telugu verses
manasithi neekoasam manugada neekoasam
manasithi neekoasam manugada neekoasam
mamathaa avaedham maayani mathupaasam
mamathaa avaedham maayani mathupaasam
manasithi neekoasam manugada neekoasam

nee kaN kaNaraagam
aah ha haan
nee madhi anuraagam
aah ha haan
mana ee vaibOgam
aah ha haan
bahuthan alayOgam
aah ha haan
valapula bhullaasam
aah ha haan
nerapula dherahaasam
aah ha haan
vahadhena avaaagasm
aah ha haan
saa nalivulu aavaesam
ah ha ha....

singalath theevinukkoar paalamamaippoam
saedhuvai maeduduththi veedhi amaippoam
singalath theevinukkoar paalamamaippoam
saedhuvai maeduduththi veedhi amaippoam
vangaththil oadi varum neerin migaiyaal
maiyaththu naadugalil payir seythuvoam
vangaththil oadi varum neerin migaiyaal
maiyaththu naadugalil payir seythuvoam

The best jnana (in the objective world) is to live as Indians without any distinction of castes etc.,
and be united.

If we are united no attempt to conquer us will happen.  We are all the sons and daughters of one mother,
Bharata Matha. Even if we fight for something, still are we not brothers (and sisters)?

Simple but insightful.

Today's India has scattered his noble Dreams. Assmese and other North east workers are dirven out of
Bangalore and Chennai.  Bal Thackary says Mumbai is only for Marathis! Where is this country going?   

simply so refreshing! Sir, i do not find spirituality different from this insight of mahAkavI. Bhagavan used to say சமத்வம் வெணும் ?ஒய்? சமத்வம் வெணும் samatvam venum voi, samatvam venum (equality is needed)

having that samatvam within ourselves, that one string that binds the various thoughts, various ideas, etc., is the best jnana. I truly believe the grand idea of a nation is the very idea of Self Realisation, where the macro cosmos is same as micro cosmos. But only when we separate things as spiritual and worldly, samsArA begins! Nation can be built first only when we are able to perceive the unity within ourselves.

Sir mumbai and bal thackrey, yes! these days most family houses are scattered these days :D

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