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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: November 14, 2012, 08:50:36 PM »
Stray thoughts...

Most times, it is not knowledge that helps, but, patience, it is patience that truly helps. Wait, just wait! Nothing need be done! it will all end soon!


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General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: November 14, 2012, 08:42:40 PM »
"Cultivate devotion and love of God and so pass your days. What else can you do? When Krishna went away, Yaśoda became insane with grief and visited Radha. Radha was moved by her sorrow and appeared before her as Ādyāśakti. She said, 'My child, ask a boon of Me.' Yaśoda replied: 'Mother, what else shall I ask of You? Bless me that I may serve Krishna alone with my body, mind, and speech; that I may behold His devotees with these eyes; that I may go with these feet to the place where His divine sport is manifested; that I may serve Him and His devotees with these hands; and that I may devote all my sense-organs to His service alone.' "


The Gospel of Sri Ramakrisha


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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Passions
« on: November 14, 2012, 08:27:38 PM »
Passions

D: How am I to deal with my passions? Am I to check them or satisfy them? If I follow Bhagavan’s method and ask, ‘To whom are these passions?’ they do not seem to die but grow stronger.

M: That only shows you are not going about my method properly. The right way is to find out the root of all passions, the source whence they proceed, and get rid of that. If you check the passions, they may get suppressed for the moment, but will appear again. If you satisfy them, they will be satisfied only for the moment and will again crave satisfaction. Satisfying desires and thereby trying to root them out is like trying to quench fire by pouring kerosene oil over it. The only way is to find the root of desire and thus remove it.


(Day by Day)


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Humour / Ordinary mind
« on: November 14, 2012, 07:45:44 PM »
ordinary mind

Joshu asked Nansen, “What is the Way?” Nansen answered, “Your ordinary mind–that is the Way.” Joshu said, “Can it be grasped (for study)?” Nansen replied, “The more you pursue, the more does it slip away.” Joshu asked once more, “How can you know it is the Way?” Nansen responded, “The Way does not belong to knowledge, nor does it belong to non knowledge. Knowledge is illusion. Non knowledge is beyond discrimination. When you get to this Way without doubt, you are free like the vastness of space, an unfathomable void, so how can you explain it by yes or no?” Upon hearing this, Joshu was awakened.


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Humour / Re: Zen Humour
« on: November 14, 2012, 07:44:41 PM »
Nice story Subramanian Sir, i just saw today! Yes, it is all in the mind, mana eva manuShyAnAm kAranam bandhahmOkShah.




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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: November 14, 2012, 04:38:29 PM »
     त्वमेव माता च पिता त्वमेव ।
त्वमेव बन्धुश्च सखा त्वमेव ।
त्वमेव विद्या द्रविणम् त्वमेव ।
त्वमेव सर्वम् मम देव देव ॥


tvamEva mAtAca pitA tvamEva .
tvamEva bandhushca sakhA tvamEva .
tvamEva vidyA draviNam tvamEva .
tvamEva sarvam mama dEva dEv ..

(O' God), Thou art my Mother and father
Thou art my relation, and friend
Thou art the knowledge and the real wealth
Thou art all for me, O' God of Gods




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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: November 14, 2012, 04:16:26 PM »
Our true Guru is God alone. He transcends all guNAs (qualities). He is beyond all forms. He is the only one who can dispel (drive out) the darkness of ignorance and light the lamp of supreme Wisdom.


(shirdi sAi bAbA)



In our quest for Truth, we seem to forget the God. We are so caught up with our mental ramblings that we are forgetting the Supreme Truth that is GOD! God is the only GURU that is always available and is available without any doubts and questions! it flashed from within, revealing how little faith we seem to be having after all towards God! unknowingly, we seem to forget God, and go about searching whole world for Guru. First unless we truth God, whole-heartedly, it would be difficult to be found by a Guru!


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General topics / Guru
« on: November 14, 2012, 04:08:28 PM »
श्रोत्रियोऽवृजिनोऽकामहतो यो ब्रह्मवित्तमः ।
ब्रह्मण्युपरतः शान्तो निरिन्धन इवानलः ।
अहेतुकदयासिन्धुर्बन्धुरानमतां सताम् ॥३३॥


Guru is one who knows the scriptures (Truth),
is blameless, not overcome by sensuality,
and a supreme knower of God.
He is at peace in God,
tranquil as a fire that has run out of fuel.
He is a boundless ocean of compassion and
an intimate friend of those who seek his protection ..33..


(vivEkacUdAmaNi, Adi shankarA)


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General Discussion / A Dzogchen Song
« on: November 14, 2012, 12:42:21 PM »
Advice from Me to Myself

Listen up, old bad-karma Patrul,
You dweller-in-distraction.

For ages now you've been
Beguiled, entranced, and fooled by appearances.
Are you aware of that? Are you?
Right this very instant, when you're
Under the spell of mistaken perception
You've got to watch out.
Don't let yourself get carried away by this fake
and empty life.

Your mind is spinning around
About carrying out a lot of useless projects:
It's a waste! Give it up!
Thinking about the hundred plans you want to accomplish,
With never enough time to finish them,
Just weighs down your mind.
You're completely distracted
By all these projects, which never come to an end,
But keep spreading out more, like ripples in water.
Don't be a fool: for once, just sit tight.

Listening to the teachings — you've already
heard hundreds of teachings,
But when you haven't grasped the meaning of even
one teaching,
What's the point of more listening?

Reflecting on the teachings — even though you've listened,
If the teachings aren't coming to mind when needed,
What's the point of more reflection? None.

Meditating according to the teachings —
If your meditation practice still isn't curing
The obscuring states of mind—forget about it!

You've added up just how many mantras you've done —
But you aren't accomplishing the kyerim* visualization.
You may get the forms of deities nice and clear —
But you're not putting an end to subject and object.
You may tame what appear to be evil spirits and ghosts,
But you're not training the stream of your own mind.

Your four fine sessions of sadhana practice,
So meticulously arranged —
Forget about them.

When you're in a good mood,
Your practice seems to have lots of clarity —
But you just can't relax into it.
When you're depressed,
Your practice is stable enough
But there's no brilliance to it.
As for awareness,
You try to force yourself into a rigpa*-like state,
As if stabbing a stake into a target!

When those yogic positions and gazes keep your mind stable
Only by keeping mind tethered —
Forget about them!

Giving high-sounding lectures
Doesn't do your mind-stream any good.
The path of analytical reasoning is precise and acute —
But it's just more delusion, good for nothing goat-shit.
The oral instructions are very profound
But not if you don't put them into practice.

Reading over and over those dharma texts
That just occupy your mind and make your eyes sore —
Forget about it!

You beat your little damaru drum — ting, ting —
And your audience thinks it's charming to hear.
You're reciting words about offering up your body,
But you still haven't stopped holding it dear.
You're making your little cymbals go cling, cling —
Without keeping the ultimate purpose in mind.

All this dharma-practice equipment
That seems so attractive —
Forget about it!

Right now, those students are all studying so very hard,
But in the end, they can't keep it up.

Today, they seem to get the idea,
But later on, there's not a trace left.
Even if one of them manages to learn a little,
He rarely applies his "learning" to his own conduct.

Those elegant dharma disciplines —
Forget about them!

This year, he really cares about you,
Next year, it's not like that.
At first, he seems modest,
Then he grows exalted and pompous.
The more you nurture and cherish him,
The more distant he grows.

These dear friends
Who show such smiling faces to begin with —
Forget about them!


           
Her smile seems so full of joy —
But who knows if that's really the case?
One time, it's pure pleasure,
Then it's nine months of mental pain.
It might be fine for a month,
But sooner or later, there's trouble.

People teasing; your mind embroiled —
Your lady-friend —
Forget about her!

These endless rounds of conversation
Are just attachment and aversion —
It's just more goat-shit, good for nothing at all.
At the time it seems marvelously entertaining,
But really, you're just spreading around stories
about other people's mistakes.
Your audience seems to be listening politely,
But then they grow embarrassed for you.

Useless talk that just make you thirsty —
Forget about it!

Giving teachings on meditation texts
Without yourself having
Gained actual experience through practice,
Is like reciting a dance-manual out loud
And thinking that's the same as actually dancing.

People may be listening to you with devotion,
But it just isn't the real thing.

Sooner or later, when your own actions
Contradict the teachings, you'll feel ashamed.

Just mouthing the words,
Giving dharma explanations that sound so eloquent—
Forget about it!

When you don't have a text, you long for it;
Then when you've finally gotten it,
you hardly look at it.

The number of pages seems few enough,
But it's a bit hard to find time to copy them all.
Even if you copied down all the dharma texts on earth,
You wouldn't be satisfied.

Copying down texts is a waste of time
(Unless you get paid) —
So forget about it!

Today, they're happy as clams —
Tomorrow, they're furious.
With all their black moods and white moods,
People are never satisfied.
Or even if they're nice enough,
They may not come through when you really need them,
Disappointing you even more.

All this politeness, keeping up a
Courteous demeanor —
Forget about it!

Worldly and religious work
Is the province of gentlemen.
Patrul, old boy — that's not for you.

Haven't you noticed what always happens?
An old bull, once you've gone to the trouble of
borrowing him for his services,
Seems to have absolutely no desire left in him at all—
(Except to go back to sleep).

Be like that — desireless.

Just sleep, eat, piss, shit.
There's nothing else in life that has to be done.

Don't get involved with other things:
They're not the point.

Keep a low profile,
Sleep.

In the triple universe
When you're lower than your company
You should take the low seat.

Should you happen to be the superior one,
Don't get arrogant.

There's no absolute need to have close friends;
You're better off just keeping to yourself.

When you're without any worldly
or religious obligations,
Don't keep on longing to acquire some!

If you let go of everything —
Everything, everything —
That's the real point!


Kyerim - Generation stage visualization practice
Rigpa - Normative Awareness

Patrul Rinpoche (1808-1887) (translated by C Wilkinson)


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General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: November 09, 2012, 09:27:11 PM »
         

You have taken so much trouble to come here.
You must be seeking God. But almost everyone
is satisfied simply by seeing the garden. Only one
or two look for its owner. People enjoy the beauty
of the world; they do not seek its owner.



The Gospel of Sri Ramakrisha



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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Light Post
« on: November 09, 2012, 07:18:18 PM »
Let us wait for the holy words of cguruji  :)

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Light Post
« on: November 09, 2012, 07:14:16 PM »
does time really pass?

 ;)

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Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Light Post
« on: November 09, 2012, 07:09:26 PM »
cguruji, how do you pass time, sitting below this tree?


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Humour / Re: Zen Humour
« on: November 09, 2012, 07:06:25 PM »
Two men were arguing about a flag flapping in the wind.

"It's the wind that is really moving," stated the first one.

"No, it is the flag that is moving," contended the second.

A Zen master, who happened to be walking by, overheard the debate and interrupted them.

"Neither the flag nor the wind is moving," he said, "It is MIND that moves."

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General topics / Re: Tamil Scriptures
« on: November 09, 2012, 04:02:11 PM »
Nice poems,

The thing to observe is everybody has crossed the impediments of the vices, one by one, by His grace. This means each and every person can cross all the vices slowly if one cultivates steadfastness and bhakti with a calm and composed mind that enables one to respond to any given situation, that does not react. With bhakti and love of God or Guru, one can easily transcend these vices. One should have shradDhA, and steadfastness with patience.


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