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2506
General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: November 16, 2012, 04:07:12 PM »
What joy Subramanian Sir, you have narrated very nicely! My favorite line in entire Bhagavan tamil literature is this alone:

kaNNe undhan kazhal iNaiyil   
kAdhal perukke tharuvAye!



2507
About Death

Real rebirth is dying from the ego into the Spirit. This is the significance of the crucifixion of Jesus. Whenever identification with the body exists, a body is always available, whether in this or in any other one, till the body-sense disappears by merging into the Source – the Spirit, or Self. The stone which is projected upwards remains in constant motion, till it returns to its source, the earth, and rests. Headache continues to give trouble, till the pre-headache state is regained.


Give up the false identification and, remember, the body cannot exist without the Self, whereas the Self can exist without the body; in fact it is always without it.


(Guru Ramana, SS Cohen)


2508
About Death

A visitor asks Sri Maharshi:

Visitor: How can the terrible fear of death be overcome?

Bhagavan: When does that fear seize you? Does it come when you do not see your body, say, in dreamless sleep, or when you are under chloroform? It haunts you only when you are fully “awake” and perceive the world, including your body. If you do not see these and remain your pure self, as in dreamless sleep, no fear can touch you. If you trace this fear to the object, the loss of which gives rise to it, you will find that that object is not the body, but the mind which functions in it and through which the environment and the attractive world is known as sights, sounds, smells, etc. Many a man would be too glad to be rid of his diseased body and all the problems and inconvenience it creates for him if continued awareness were vouchsafed to him. It is the awareness, the consciousness, and not the body, he fears to lose. Men love existence because it is eternal awareness, which is their own Self. Why not then hold on to the pure awareness right now, while in the body and be free from all fear?

A Mysorean, Mr. M. had read some Theosophical books and stayed here for some months trying to digest them. He wanted to know about rebirths. Theosophy speaks of 50 to 10,000-year intervals between death and rebirth. Why is this so?

Bhagavan: There is no relation between the standard of measurements of one state of consciousness and another. All such measurements are hypothetical. It is true that some individuals take more time and some less. But it must be distinctly understood that it is not the soul that comes and goes, but the thinking mind of the individual, which makes it appear to do so. On whatever plane the mind happens to act, it creates a body for itself: in the physical world a physical body, in the dream world a dream body, which becomes wet with dream rain and sick with dream diseases. After the death of the physical body, the mind remains inactive for some time, as in dreamless sleep, when it remains worldless and therefore bodiless. But soon it becomes active again in a new world and a new body – the astral, – till it assumes another body in what is called a “rebirth”. But the Jnani, the Self- Realised man, whose mind has already ceased to act, remains unaffected by death: it has dropped never to rise again to cause births and deaths. The chain of illusions has snapped forever for him.

It is now clear that there is neither real birth, nor real death. It is the mind which creates and maintains the illusion of reality in this process, till it is destroyed by Self-Realisation.



(Guru Ramana, SS Cohen)


2509
General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: November 16, 2012, 12:41:11 PM »
when such a person is seen glaring at infinity, poetry is the beautiful garland by which one offers such a garland to that infinity.

மாலை யளித்தரு ணசல ரமணவென்
மாலை யணிமுதரு ளருணசலா


mAlai yalitharu nAcala ramaNaven
mAlai yanImudaru larunAcalA

O Arunachalaramana, having bestowed upon me the
garland (of your grace), graciously wear my garland (this
Bridal Garland of Letters), O Arunachala


2510
The Heart is used in the Vedas and the scriptures to denote the place whence the notion ‘I’ springs. Does it spring only from the fleshy ball? It springs within us somewhere right in the middle of our being. The ‘I’ has no location. Everything is the Self. There is nothing but that. So the Heart must be said to be the entire body of ourselves and of the entire universe, conceived as ‘I’. But to help the practiser (abhyasi) we have to indicate a definite part of the Universe, or of the Body. So this Heart is pointed out as the seat of the Self. But in truth we are everywhere, we are all that is, and there is nothing else.


(Talks)


2511
General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: November 16, 2012, 12:14:42 PM »
Poets are indeed blessed!

2512
General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: November 16, 2012, 10:13:11 AM »
whom to see and adore,
Krishna or Rama,
both are so beautiful,
whom to see, both are one,
yet they appear as two
and myself as the third,
it pains, and yet it is beautiful!
if i see here, i long to see there,
if i see there, i long to see here!
O' God help me!


2513
General topics / Re: Bhajana Dhyana
« on: November 16, 2012, 10:08:03 AM »






ठुमक चलत रामचंद्र
ठुमक चलत रामचंद्र बाजत पैंजनियां …


Tumak calath rAmacandra
Tumak calath rAmacandra
bAjat painjaniyAn

Baby Ram walks, swaying unsteadily
His anklets ring in tune with his steps


किलकि किलकि उठत धाय गिरत भूमि लटपटाय .
धाय मात गोद लेत दशरथ की रनियां …


kilaki kilaki uTath DhAya girath Bhumi latapatAya
DhAya mAtagOda lEta dasharaTh kI raniyAn

Laughing joyously he stumbles around
on the ground He is fondly picked into
the laps of King Dasharatha’s queens




अंचल रज अंग झारि विविध भांति सो दुलारि .
तन मन धन वारि वारि कहत मृदु बचनियां …


ancala raja anga Jhari viviDh BhAnthi sO dulAri
tana mana Dhana vAri vAri kahath mRudu bacaniyAn

They cover him with their saris,
dusting the dirt off and caressing his bruises
They offer loving and reassuring words
of devotion to make him feel better


विद्रुम से अरुण अधर बोलत मुख मधुर मधुर .
सुभग नासिका में चारु लटकत लटकनियां …


vidrum sE aruNa aDhara bOlata muKha maDhura maDhura
suBhaga nAsikA mEn cAru latkath latakaniyAn

Baby Ram’s ruby red lips
speak sweet melodious words
Ornaments decorate his nose and waist


तुलसीदास अति आनंद देख के मुखारविंद .
रघुवर छबि के समान रघुवर छबि बनियां …


tulasIdAs ati Ananda dEkha kE muKharavinda
raghuvar Chabi samAna raghuvara Chabi baniyAn

Poet Tulsidas is thrilled at the face of Ram,
which has the glory of the Sun
Baby Ram is exactly what he
had imagined him to be



(tulasidAs)









ठुमक चलत रामचंद्र

2514
General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: November 16, 2012, 07:59:55 AM »
Arutprakasa Vallalar Chidambaram Ramalingam, popularly known as Vallalar established the Sathiya Gnana Sabhai (Hall of True Knowledge).

Teachings

The path of Samarasam contains four disciplines :
    • Gnana Indriya Ozhukkam (Ozhukkam means self - control):

      • Listening to the praise of God
      • Preventing bad words entering our ears
      • Avoiding looks of harshness and wickedness
      • Abstaining from touching evil things
      • Abstaining from gluttony etc.

    • Karma Indriya Ozhukkam:

      • Speaking sweet words
      • Telling no lies
      • Resisting by all means from harmful deeds to other living beings
      • Leading a religious life
      • Associating ourselves with people of saintly character
      • Maintaining a healthy body

  • Karma Ozhukkam

    • The mind has to be directed to the Cit Sabhai by taking it away from other objects (Cit Sabhai is the heart in which the Divine abodes)
    • Not to enquire into the faults of others
    • Not to be wicked

  • Jiva Ozhukkam

    • Jiva Ozhukkam is the discipline that teaches one to treat all human beings as equal, and feel the presence of oneself in all human beings.
    • One must not be affected by the various distinctions as social, national, linguistic, caste, religion, etc. because the soul belongs to a different sphere where no differences exist.

  • Anma Ozhukkam

    • Anma Ozhukkam is further development of Jiva ozhukkam. Here the soul looks upon all living beings alike ( not only human beings but also other beings). Here the soul feels great compassion for all the beings, considers 'Anma' as the 'Sabhai' and the 'Inner Light' as God.


2515
Humour / Re: Zen Humour
« on: November 16, 2012, 06:32:33 AM »
Bodhidharma sat facing the stone wall. The Second Patriarch of Chinese C’han (Zen), Suika, stood long in the thick snow. Finally, he severed his own arm and presented it to Bodhidharma. He said, “Your student cannot pacify his mind. You, the First Patriarch, please, give me peace of mind!” The First Patriarch replied, “Bring that mind, I will calm it down!” The Second Patriarch said, “I search for it everywhere, but I cannot find it!” Bodhidharma replied, “I have already pacified it for you!”


2516
I want to be further enlightened. Should I try to make no effort at all?

Here, it is impossible for you to be without effort. When you go deeper, it is impossible for you to make any effort.

If the mind becomes introverted through enquiry into the source of aham-vritti, the vAsanAs become extinct. The light of the Self falls on the vAsanAs and produces the phenomenon of reflection we call the mind. Thus, when the vAsanAs become extinct the mind also disappears, being absorbed into the light of the one reality, the heart.

This is the sum and substance of all that an aspirant needs to know. What is imperatively required of him is an earnest and one-pointed enquiry into the source of aham-vritti.


2517
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: November 16, 2012, 03:46:54 AM »
God Himself will think about your family if you are intoxicated with Him.



The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna


2518
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: November 16, 2012, 03:42:46 AM »
Maya is nothing but 'woman and gold'.


The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna


2519
very sad, actually, there is a reason why our shAstrAs say one should not cross the ocean. Dharma changes!

2520
Humour / Re: Zen Humour
« on: November 15, 2012, 07:03:14 PM »
One day the Master announced that a young monk had reached an advanced state of enlightment. The news caused some stir. Some of the monks went to see the young monk. "We heard you are enlightened. Is that true?" they asked.

"It is," he replied.

"And how do you feel?"

"As miserable as ever," said the monk.


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