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Dear Sir,

:) i just noticed, you have just started posting new topics. That is wonderful :)

My view on Thoughts and conquest of thoughts are simple, basically, one has to be mindful and strive not to be mechanical. Specially for the ones that have had connection with Bhagavan Ramana, will develop this wonderful gift of contemplation about the 'I' Thought, Self Enquiry.

The detachment from thoughts varies from person to person, depending on the exact proportion of sincere efforts we put towards our sAdhanA. When one is found troubled with thoughts, one has to enquire the source of the I thought, or one has to realise that one is just the observer and not the thoughts themselves (see Or become conscious of the Seer and abide as the Seer and by discerning that the Seer is independent of the Seen (in this case - thoughts)

And yes just walking blindly will be of no use, just throwing stones, It is all about mindfulness, being ever alert and alive and conscious! Basically, what is important is not to get trapped in 'inaction' and strive to discern that one is unaffected by thoughts.

It is the emergence of thoughts that cause the disturbance, hence as Bhagavan says, trace the source of the emergence, and one will become free of thoughts.

But one has to remember, that the the results are exactly proportional to ones effort, sincerity, and mindfulness. Some of them can instantly detach from thoughts due to prolonged contemplation and discernment. It varies from person to person

In an answer to a question by long resident attendant, Sri Bhagavan said:

Every body complains of the restlessness of mind. Let the mind be found out and then they will know. True when a sits down to meditate
thoughts rush up by dozens. The mind is a bundle of thoughts The attempt to push through the barrage of thoughts, is unsuccessful.
It can be done by any means abide in the Self it is good. For those who are unable to do so, chanting or meditation is prescribed.

One need not necessarily resort to just shlokas and prayers alone. A nice walk with the nature, going to a temple, going to a very serene place, etc... all calm the mind very well.

The thing is to not become limited only by shlokas and meditation alone, sometimes, we may even not be interested or even a pinch of effort may be a big strain, then tuning in with nature, is excellent aid.

Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Re: Nectar from rAmAyanA
« on: November 30, 2012, 04:45:05 PM »
Description of the city of ayODhyA and the prosperity of its inhabitants during the reign of King dhasharathA

तस्मिन् पुरवरे दृष्टा धर्मात्मानो बहुश्रुताः ।
नरास्तुष्टा धनैः स्वैः स्वैरलुब्धाः सत्यवादिनः ॥

thasmin puravarE dhRuShtA DharmAthmAnO bahushruthAh .
narAsthuShtA Dhanaih svaih svairalubDhAh sathyavAdhinah ..

The people of that city are happy, virtuous, learned in sacred lore,
free from greed, truthful and contented with their own fortune.

1.6.6 (vAlmIki ramayanam bAlakANDam)

Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Re: Nectar from rAmAyanA
« on: November 30, 2012, 03:47:46 PM »
Sri Hari,

I long wanted to open a thread on Ramayana, but the sheer volume of the scripture always kept me aback. I pray, He guide and take it well, and bring out the nectar Himself. :)

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Re: Light Post
« on: November 30, 2012, 03:34:24 PM »

the end is just the beginning

Another case,

upon waking, all is seen to be, just a dream, neither was the king nor the beggar and the rest that happened. nothing truly happened or is there to happen. Forgetfulness and remembrance both are found to be just a dream. Both knowledge and ignorance were part of that dream. First thorn was as untrue as the second thorn. The sons of a barren woman is as untrue as the barren woman itself.

The logic that tries to destroy ignorance
Is in the same category

That word that attempts to explain
The meaning of something that doesn’t exist
Only accomplishes its own destruction.

The illumination provided by the word
Does nothing to destroy ignorance;
It is like rain pouring on the ocean.

It is certain that eyesight
Cannot perceive itself,
That taste cannot taste itself,
That a person who is awake
Cannot be awakened.


Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Re: Nectar from rAmAyanA
« on: November 30, 2012, 10:03:18 AM »
यावत् स्थास्यन्ति गिरयस्सरितश्च महीतले ।
तावद्रामायणकथा लोकेषु प्रचरिष्यति ॥

yAvath sThAsyanthi girayassarithashca mahIthalE .
thAvadrAmAyaNakaThA lOkEShu pracariShyathi ..

The theme of the rAmAyaNA will [continue to] be popular in [all] the [three] worlds so long
as mountains and rivers will remain on the surfaces of the earth.

(1.2.36 vAlmIki ramayanam bAlakANDam)

Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Re: Nectar from rAmAyanA
« on: November 30, 2012, 09:58:16 AM »
न ते वागनृता काव्ये काचिदत्र भविष्यति ।
कुरु रामकथां पुण्यां श्लोकबद्धां मनोरमाम् ॥

nathE vAganRuthA kAvyE kAcidhathra  BhaviShyathi .
kuru rAmakaThAm puNyAm shlOkabadDhAm manOramAm ..

No description of yours in this poem* will prove false.

*  [that will be composed by you]

1.2.35 (vAlmIki ramayanam bAlakANDam)

General Discussion / Re: Quotes from qurAn
« on: November 30, 2012, 09:47:07 AM »

Allahu la ilaha illahuwa alhayyu alqayyoom

Allah, [there is] no god but He, the Everliving,
the Self-subsisting by Whom all things subsist

(surat alI imrAn - Family of imrAn)

General Discussion / Re: sandhyA vandanam - Discussion
« on: November 30, 2012, 09:02:21 AM »
Just want to update that this thread will resume from monday, when i will be back home.

Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Re: Nectar from rAmAyanA
« on: November 30, 2012, 08:59:37 AM »
rAm rAm, Sri Tushnim,


Lets aspire for

पिबरे राम रसम् रसने
पिबरे राम रसम् ॥

pibarE rAma rasam
rasanE pibarE rAmarasam

Drink the nectar of rAmA,
Drink the nectar of rAmA

click here for full song

Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Re: Nectar from rAmAyanA
« on: November 30, 2012, 08:27:07 AM »
मच्छन्दादेव ते ब्रह्मन् प्रवृत्तेयं सरस्वती ॥३१॥

macCandAdEva thE brahman pravRuththEyam sarasvathI

Through my will alone has this speech flowed from your lips, O brAhmana sage!

brood not over this (anymore) Let this metrical composition be conducive to your glory.

Brahma to vAlmIkI, who was sad at his curse on the hunter who had struck down a bird and out of grief, uttered a curse on the hunter. The utterances was wonderful, rhythmic couplets, set in four metrical feet, each containing an equal number of letters (eight) possessing the rhythm of a song that can be sung to a lute.

Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Nectar from rAmAyanA
« on: November 30, 2012, 08:16:33 AM »

Dear Friends,

Lord rAmA has always been very dear to me. I open this thread to post some nectarine quotations from vAlmIkI rAmAyan. Thank you.

General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: November 30, 2012, 06:47:33 AM »
At the beginning of religious life a man makes much ado about work, but as his mind dives deeper into God, he becomes less active. Last of all comes the renunciation of work, followed by samAdhi.

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

மதிக்கொளி தமுதம் மதிக்கு ளொளிரு
மதியினை யுள்ளெ மடக்க்கிப் பதியிற்
பதித்திடுத லன்றிப் பதியை மதியான்
மதித்திடுத லெங்ஙன் மதியாய்

Madikkolli Damudam Madikku Llolliru
Madiyinnnai Yulllle Mattakkkip Padiyirr
Padittittuda Lannnrrip Padiyai Madiyaannn
Madittittuta Lengngannn Madiyaay

Except by turning the mind inwards (towards the feeling ‘I am’) and (thereby) sinking (it) in the Lord, who shines within that mind (as its substratum) giving light (the light of consciousness) to the mind, which sees everything (other than itself), how is it possible to know (or to meditate upon) the Lord by the mind? Consider thus.

Note: In this verse Sri Bhagavan clearly reveals the truth that the only means by which one can know God, who is the real Self and who shines within the mind as the pure consciousness ‘I am’, is to merge the mind in Him by turning it inwards through the enquiry ‘Who am I?’.

Without turning inwards and merging in the Lord His light that shines within the mind and lends it all its light, how can we know the Light of Lights with the borrowed light of the mind?

(ulladhu nArpadhu 22)

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