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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: December 07, 2012, 08:05:19 AM »
in the same line, i provide the link to another article on Guru Tatvam.

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: December 07, 2012, 07:59:50 AM »
वाचो वेगं मनसः वेगं क्रोधवेगं
जिह्वावेगमुदरोपस्थवेगम् । 
एतान् वेगान् यो विषहेत धीरः
सर्वामपीमां पृथ्वीं स शिष्यात् ॥

vaacho vegam manasah vegam krodhavegam
etaan vegaan yo vishaheta dhirah
sarvaamapimaam prithvim sa shishyaath

A dheera (steadfast) man who can tolerate the urge to speak, the mind's demands, the actions of anger and the urges of the tongue, belly and genitals is qualified to make disciples all over the world.

(Chaitanya Mahaprabhu)

General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: December 07, 2012, 04:01:47 AM »
M: "Should one throwaway both knowledge and ignorance?"

MASTER: "Yes. That is why one should acquire vijnana. You see, he who is aware of
light is also aware of darkness. He who is aware of happiness is also aware of
suffering. He who is aware of virtue is also aware of vice. He who is aware of good
is also aware of evil. He who is aware of holiness is also aware of unholiness. He who
is aware of 'I' is also aware of 'you'.

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna


What one fails to know by conversation extending to
several years can be known in a trice in silence, or
in front of silence -e.g, Dakshinamurthy, and
his four disciples. That is the highest and
most effective language.


D.   Are there any signs to indicate the aspirants
      progress towards Self realisation?

Bh. The degree of freedom from unwanted thoughts
      and the degree of concentration on a single thought
      are the measure to gauge the progress


When I seek the Self and abide as the Self there is no world to be seen.


Whatever is seen by the ego who, having fallen from the true state of Self and
having been buried deep in dark ignorance, takes the body as 'I', is not at all real and is simply non-existent.

(Guru Vachaka Kovai, 69)

Dear Sri Prashant,

I do not have anything to respond over your observations excepting to say, kindly discern who is it that see parroting, you are only presenting your own self at your expression, Yad Bhavam tad Bhavati, if you see it as parrotting, it is parrotting, if you see it as introcpecting, it is introspecting! What you say (the 2 ways) holds good to the other party to the discussion as well.

The views you have presented on Sati is highly insensitive!

The original practice of Sati cannot be grasped by little minds with worldly wisdom. It is one of the most holy acts ever possible by a human endeavor, worldly wisdom limits itself to flesh and blood, does not look beyond this body! This is yet another classic example of expressing without making proper due study on the said topic, and is as good as simply parrotting what is found in the internet in various sites. I make it clear that I do not endorse the forcible sati practices. But in those days, such was the liberty and respect for human endeavor, Please read Uttara Ramayana, where Sita had to jump into fire to prove her chastity. What do you have to say? Like that Ram Jethmalani, people will only find fault in these things! There is a saying in tamil - "Arandavan Kannukku Irundathellam Pei". Meaning - "For someone who is terrified, everything dark will be a ghost"

The wikipedia reference you have used is highly imperfect and insensitive reference to use and is not credible enough to quote in quest for discernment of truth.

General Discussion / Re: Christian quotes
« on: December 06, 2012, 08:05:53 PM »

For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time
[are] not worthy [to be compared] with the glory which
shall be revealed in us.

For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth
for the manifestation of the sons of God.

For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly,
but by reason of him who hath subjected [the same]
in hope, Because the creature itself also shall be
delivered from the bondage of corruption into the
glorious liberty of the children of God.


General Discussion / Re: Sri Sai Sat Charitra
« on: December 06, 2012, 07:41:57 PM »
Like a loving mother forcing bitter but wholesome medicines down the throats of her children for the sake of their health, Sai Baba imparted spiritual instructions to His devotees. His method was not veiled or secret, but quite open. The devotees who followed His instructions got their object. Sad-gurus like Sai Baba open our (eyes of the) intellect and show us the divine beauties of the Self, and fulfill our tender longings of devotion. When this is done, our desire for sense-objects vanishes, twin fruits of Viveka (discrimination) and Vairagya (dispassion or non-attachment) come to our hands; and knowledge sprouts up even in the sleep. All this we get, when we come in contact with Saints (Sad-guru), serve them and secure their love. The Lord, who fulfills the desires of His devotees, comes to our aid, removes our troubles and sufferings, and makes us happy. This progress or development is entirely due to the help of the Sadguru, who is regarded as the Lord Himself. Therefore, we should always be after the Sad-guru, hear His stories, fall at His Feet and serve Him. Now we come to our main story.

(From Chapters XVII & XIX)

General topics / Re: Tamil Scriptures
« on: December 06, 2012, 07:22:13 PM »
The following 2 verses in Vinayaka Aghaval are very mystical and I doubt whether a normal human mind can understand the deep import of these verses .
சத்தத்தின் உள்ளே சதாசிவம் காட்டிச்
சித்தத்தின் உள்ளே சிவலிங்கம் காட்டி

Sri Atmavichar,

This may be of help:


"If one watches whence this notion I springs, the mind is absorbed into that. That is tapas."

When a mantrA is repeated, if attention is directed to the source whence the mantrA sound is produced, the mind is absorbed in that. That is tapas.

(bhagavan to gaNapati muni)

Dear Sri Ravi,

I just want to express, that since the manifestation of Bhagavan Ramana as Sri Ramakrishna here in the forum, I have been immensely benefited. The confluence of Ramakrishna and Ramanar is the best that has happened to me, and this has also enabled me to visit the windows of Christ, Buddha and Allah and so many other fronts as well! The differences has ever since been breaking up quicker! Where ever i see, Bhagavan Ramana is seen.

I have been a postman for a long long time and hope to be one forever,as long as it pleases the Master.

i pray the same prayers as yours Sri Ravi. i may not yet be eligible, but I aspire for it, what rests in our hands. He has to be the Engineer, He Has to be the Good Shepherd, He has to be Go-Pala! I would be ever ready to fall at his feet, my prayer is that he never fail to admonish me anytime so as to uplift me, to take me from darkness to light, from Untruth to Truth! I pray that I always fear the wrath of Guru, I pray that i always never be able to face the anger or disappointment of the Guru. I pray His Will, be done all time.

Our friend Jewell is referring to the Postman :)
Our friend uday bestowed this prestigious title to me!

:) oh my! so sorry, i was not aware about this your 'title', but, i just want to clear the air that it was not you, i was referring to in my expressions :D

General topics / Re: Tamil Scriptures
« on: December 06, 2012, 06:49:07 PM »
Here is a beauty from Tirumangai Azhwhar:

வாடினேன் வாடிவருந்தினேன் மனத்தால்
பெருந்துயரிடும்பையில் பிறந்து,
கூடினேன் கூடியிளையவர்த்தம்மோடு
அவர்த்தரும் கலவியேகருதி,
ஓடினேன் ஓடியுய்வதோர்ப் பொருளால்
உணர்வெனும் பெரும் பதம்f திரிந்து,
நாடினேன் நாடி நான் கண்டுகொண்டேன்
நாராயணா வென்னும் நாமம். (2) 1.1.1

Truly wonderful Sir,

"I wilted, wilting despaired in my heart, born in the pain of a dark womb.
I mingled, mingling with lurid young dames, seeking the sex they did give me.
I ran, and running by grace of Good-Lord, probed into nature of my mind.
I sought, and seeking, found out for myself, Narayana is the good name."

Forum advice, news & etiquette / Re: Transliteration
« on: December 06, 2012, 06:41:12 PM »
Dear Sri Graham,

Thanks for your feedback, i was of the impression that it may be easier to read and that readers may be interested with it. I would discontinue with it and henceforth continue with the normal practice.

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