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1756
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: December 28, 2012, 04:13:01 AM »


"Give God your power of attorney. Let Him do whatever He likes."

(Master to Girish Chandra Ghosh)

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna


1757
A newly arrived Andhra youth told Bhagavan about the vagaries of his senses to which Bhagavan said, “All that is due to the mind. Set it right.” “That is all right, Swami,but however much I try to reduce this anger, it comes on again and again. What shall I do?” said the poor boy.

“Oh! Is that so, then get angry with that anger; it will be all right” said Bhagavan. All people in the hall burst out laughing. A person who gets angry with everything in the world, if only he introspects, and enquires why he does not get angry with his anger itself, will he not really overcome all anger?

Two or three years back a devotee who could freely approach Bhagavan came and told him five or six times that somebody had been abusing him. Bhagavan listened but said nothing. As there was no response from Bhagavan in spite of repeated and varied complaints and in a number of ways,this devotee could not contain himself any longer and so said, “When I am abused so much unnecessarily, I also get angry. However much I try to restrain my anger I am not able to do so. What shall I do?”

Bhagavan laughingly said, “What should you do? You too join him and abuse yourself; then it will be all right.” All laughed.

That devotee, unable to understand anything, said “That is very good! Should I abuse myself?”

“Yes indeed! What they are abusing is your body, isn’t it? What greater enemy is there than this body which is the abode of anger and similar feelings? It is necessary that we ourselves should hate it. Instead of that, when we are unguarded, if anybody abuses us, we should know that they are waking us up.

We should realise at least then, and join them in abusing the body, and crying it down. What is the use of counter-abuse? Those who abuse us that way should be looked upon as our friends. It is good for us to be among such people. If you are among people who praise you, you get deceived,” said Bhagavan.

(Letters)


1758
General Discussion / Re: Common Discussion
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:16:18 PM »
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Sri Sanjay, kindly see again, nothing has been conveyed that is not in line of teachings of Bhagavan.

Sir - I never contested that. Please tell me whether you came to know of Bhagawan's teachings in deep sleep or in waking state for the FIRST TIME - THE FIRST STEP? That will answer what I was trying to convey - does not need any more explanations.

i don't get what you are conveying, Sri Sanjay.

But, what i would like to say is this, what is important is, who is it that came to know, pursuing with That alone constitutes the Self Enquiry. That is all was being conveyed.


1759
General Discussion / Re: Common Discussion
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:07:24 PM »
Sri Tushnim,

new forum policing :D buddy, your locking the topic was i felt misplaced.


1760
General Discussion / Re: Common Discussion
« on: December 27, 2012, 08:00:06 PM »
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no need to eliminate the ghosts. Like a child goes to its mother, go to a Guru, rest will be taken care. We are not asked to do anything external

Why did Lord Krishna waste 18 chapters? He could have just told Arjuna "go to a guru and rest will be taken care" :).

For clarity of thread, i present my complete sentence as provided by you in the above quote:

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no need to eliminate the ghosts. Like a child goes to its mother, go to a Guru, rest will be taken care. We are not asked to do anything external, in this case, we are already acquainted with the teachings of Bhagavan and therefore we are asked to enquire, who is it that wants to eliminate the ghosts, nothing else.

:)
Sri Sanjay, kindly see again, nothing has been conveyed that is not in line of teachings of Bhagavan.


1761
General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: December 27, 2012, 06:54:35 PM »
What you seek is seeking you.

(Rumi)


1762
General topics / Re: Thayumanavar - Blessings
« on: December 27, 2012, 03:58:37 PM »
பாராது பார்ப்பதே ஏதுசா தனமற்ற
      பரமஅநு பூதிவாய்க்கும்
   பண்பென் றுணர்த்தியது பாராம லந்நிலை
      பதிந்தநின் பழவடியாதஞ்
சீரா யிருக்கநின தருள் வேண்டும் ஐயனே


To vision, thus, seeing and not seeing,
Alone will lead to the Finite Grace
That has neither cause nor effect -
Thus Thou taught me!

Grant me Thine Grace
To be like Thine devotees
On whom Grace had descended of itself.
Oh! Father!


From verse 9 of Chinmayananda Guru


1763
General topics / Re: Thayumanavar - Blessings
« on: December 27, 2012, 03:45:59 PM »
அத்துவித நிலையராய் என்னையாண் டுன்னடிமை
         யான வர்க ளறிவினூடுந்..


And in the jnana of those great beings
That stand in nondual state
Who have accepted me in their service
And had been accepted by Thee in Thine service.


Lets pray, to be accepted soon, in Thine service.


1764
General Discussion / Re: Quotes from Sri Aurobindo and Mother
« on: December 27, 2012, 11:04:07 AM »
The ideal of the Yoga is not asceticism, but
to do with things or without things in the same
spirit of equality and non-attachment


only in that spirit can one make a true and
spiritual use of physical things and material life.

(Letters on Himself and Ashram)


1765
General Discussion / Re: Quotes from Sri Aurobindo and Mother
« on: December 27, 2012, 11:00:51 AM »
I was told that when we have surrendered completely to God,
God will take care of all our true needs.


He may give all that is truly needed—but people usually interpret
this idea in the sense that He gives all that they think or feel
that they need. He may do that—but also He may not.


It is said that He supplies all our psychic needs.

In the end, yes; but here too people expect Him to supply them
instantly, which does not always happen.


(Letters on Himself and Ashram)


1766
General Discussion / Re: Quotes from Sri Aurobindo and Mother
« on: December 27, 2012, 10:58:16 AM »
Requires a very careful read - :)

The influence upon you which struggles against it
has to disappear and no more be a part of your nature.


(Letters on Himself and Ashram)


1767
General Discussion / Re: Quotes from Sri Aurobindo and Mother
« on: December 27, 2012, 10:56:15 AM »
One is here only for two things,
to realise the Divine and to transform the consciousness and
nature into the higher consciousness and nature.


That is what the Power that works on you intends and nothing else.

(Letters on Himself and Ashram)


1768
General Discussion / Re: Quotes from Sri Aurobindo and Mother
« on: December 27, 2012, 10:54:40 AM »
There can be no understanding if
your mind insists on something
that is radically untrue.


(Letters on Himself and Ashram)


1769
General Discussion / Re: Quotes from Sri Aurobindo and Mother
« on: December 27, 2012, 10:51:45 AM »
A sadhak should not have demands

A sadhak should not have demands and ask for things for his personal use from people outside, but if they of their own accord and without any request or suggestion send them to him, he can receive them. The most important point is that he shall not indulge any spirit of greed or desire under any excuse or colour and should be unaffected in his vital being by the presence or absence of these things that satisfy desire.

(Letters on Himself and Ashram)


1770
General Discussion / Re: Quotes from Sri Aurobindo and Mother
« on: December 27, 2012, 10:50:01 AM »
You havewritten [in the preceding letter] of detachment “in a positive, not merely a negative way”. Please explain this.

By negative I mean merely repressing the desires and wrong movements and egoism, by positive I mean the bringing down of light and peace and purity in those parts from above.

I do not mean that these movements are not to be rejected—but all the energy should not be directed solely to rejection. It must also be directed to the positive replacement of them by the higher consciousness. The more this consciousness comes, the easier also will the rejection be.


(Letters on Himself and Ashram)


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