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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Destroying vasanas
« on: January 17, 2013, 11:05:44 AM »
All Vasanas become non-binding when Ignorance is destroyed.
The question as to how ignorance is destroyed is not discussed here.

is there any difference between destroying vasanas and undoing ignorance.

when ignorance is undone

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Destroying vasanas
« on: January 17, 2013, 10:53:51 AM »
         :) Making the Vasanas non-binding ... thats the right way of putting it.
Vasanas get the power to bind due to ignorance.
ignorance is identification with body, mind, intellect, ego etc. This is ignorance.
I am body
I am mind
I am intellect
I am ego

this is ignorance.

when ignorance is undone... vasanas become non-binding ... they lose their power to bind.
this is liberation.

Dear Sri Udai,

while one is sitting upon fire, will it help to affirm as the fire is non binding, can the affirmations such as I am not body, i am atma, i am not mind I am atma, I am not intellect I am atma, I am not ego I am atma help?

The was as revealed by Bhagavan is to root out the Vasanas by tracing their original source, that is the way.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Destroying vasanas
« on: January 17, 2013, 10:49:19 AM »
Dear Sri Silence,

Kindly please see my post in My Musings, by following the link below, it may of interest to you -

Harih Om

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: January 17, 2013, 10:47:37 AM »

Why one is unable to over come the vasanas, it is because, deeply from within, if we carefully enquire, we will see that we want to enjoy the residence in this body, the annihilation of vasanas that we talk about is only imposed by the knowledge received by ones spiritual influence.

One contradicts oneself badly when this is the case, that deep within one wants to enjoy the joys of life, the joys of a human body, but imposes upon oneself the message of spirituality.

When one is unable to discern this truth, one struggles!

Bhagavan said the only way to overcome Vasanas is go deep within to the source and then root it out completely. Certain Vasanas are relatively easier to discern, take for instance Anger, when we look within deeply, we realise that anger actually originates from insecurity, of losing something that is perceived as of oneself's. When it is discerned that one truly possesses nothing, and therefore truly one has got nothing to lose, or gain, the anger is cooled. Also, in the process, it will be discerned that the anger expressed actually has its effect more one oneself, one will certainly feel guilty on its aftermath, on the other hand, it will cause deep pain to see the other cry as a result of outburst of our anger, and so on, discerning all these, the anger is thoroughly rooted by careful and steadfast enquiry.

Similarly all vasanas ought to be discerned out thoroughly. But, not all vasanas are easy to discern, such as anger, emotions and so on. Take for instance the vasanas of lust are not easily discernable, it requires tapas, long and very steadfast enquiry and trace back the source, discerning it completely in the same spirit of anger as given above, only will root out the vasanas.

If one is stuck, unable to proceed, when there is no 'know-how' one has to remain patient and wait for the grace of God to descend, where He will provide light at the right and appropriate time, then the 'know-how' to proceed further in enquiry matures and one will be able to over come from the strangle hold of Vasanas.

Prayer is the medium to receive the grace of God, the guidance, the light.

Self Enquiry too, stops where there is no more 'no-how' to proceed from a certain point, we are left helpless, here, until the tapas matures one has to await the grace of God, the guidance from unknown source, this light may be shown by any medium, through a beggar in the street, through an enemy, through an insentient being, through the nature, through an unbelievable source, one has to be alive and alert to take the ambrosia of nectarine knowledge when it is being given by the Lord.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: January 17, 2013, 10:33:25 AM »
Thanks for the link Sri Ravi, truly Gopaler ma is maa, mother, there are no boundaries, you feel at so much ease with her, it arouses a feeling of child to a mother, we may not be so well versed with our sadhanas, we may not be perfect, we may have so many defects, but, somehow it brings up that feeling of ease with gopaler ma, while all others somehow or the other did give love medicine, it feels like gopaler ma only gives love... it feels at absolute ease to be yourself to Her.

Like how in the Ramayana, Shravan Kumar stands out even though he appears in just small instance when Dasaratha goes hunting and kills his parents imagining them as some animals, in the similar, it feels from within, Gopaler ma, stands out as rare unique gem or star, that shines brightly. thanks so much,

General Discussion / Gopaler-ma (Aghoremani Devi )
« on: January 16, 2013, 06:46:24 PM »
'Ah, there is nothing inside this body but God. He fills it through and through' -

Sri Ramakrishna on Gopaler-ma.

Aghoremani Devi was born of a brahmin family about the year 1822 at Kamarhati, a northern suburb of Calcutta. Following the social custom of child marriage, she was married at the age of nine. Her wedding was the first and last time she saw her husband, for he died before the marriage was consummated, leaving her a widow of fourteen years of age. However, she was initiated into spiritual life by her husband's family guru and, with the child Krishna as her Chosen Deity, she was given the 'Gopala mantram'. Since a Hindu brahmin widow does not remarry, the love and energy that Aghoremani would have given her husband and children were diverted towards her beloved Gopala. It was Divine Providence that her one-pointed devotion was to make her a saint instead of a faithful housewife.

    After the death of her parents she went to live at the temple garden of Govinda Datta at Kamarhati, where her brother was the priest of the Radha-Krishna temple. It was a large estate, located on the bank of the Ganga. Govinda's widow, the owner and manager of the temple, was a very pious woman who lived like a nun. She practiced severe austerities, such as sleeping on the floor, bathing three times and eating one meal a day, and observing religious vows, daily worship, japam and meditation. She was looking for a companion, and through her priest she found Aghoremani, who had a similar nature and spiritual inclination. Aghoremani was also very happy to have the opportunity to live in a solitary, holy place on the bank of the Ganga.

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General topics / Re: Bhajana Dhyana
« on: January 16, 2013, 06:27:43 PM »

बोलो राम जय जय राम बोलो राम – 2,
Bolo Ram Jai Jai Ram Bolo Ram – 2

जन्म सफल होगा बन्दे मन में राम बसा ले,
Janam safal hoga bande man mein ram basale,

बोले राम आजा राम बोले राम …. ,
Bole Ram aaja Ram Bole Ram ….

हे राम नाम के मोती को सांसो की माला बना ले,
He Ram naam ke moti ko saanso ki maala bana le,

राम पतित पावन करुनाकर और सदा सुख दाता,
Ram patit paawan karunakar aur sadaa sukh dataa

बोले राम आजा राम बोले राम ….
Bole Ram aaja Ram Bole Ram

राम पतित पावन करुनाकर और सदा सुख दाता,
Ram patit paawan karunakar aur sadaa sukh dataa

सरस सुहावन अति मनभावन राम से प्रीत लगा ले,
Saras Suhavan ati manbhaavan
Ram se preet lagale,

मन में राम बसा ले,
Man mein ram basale

बोले राम आजा राम बोले राम ….
Bole Ram aaja Ram Bole Ram

मोह माया है झूटा बन्धन त्याग उसे तू प्राणी,
Moh maya hai jhuta bandhan tyag use tu prani,

राम नाम की ज्योत जला कर अपना भाग जगा ले,
Ram ki jyot jalaa kar apna bhag jagaa le,

मन में राम बसा ले,
Man mein ram basale,

बोले राम आजा राम बोले राम ….
Bole Ram aaja Ram Bole Ram …

राम भजन में डूब के अपनी निर्मल कर ले काया,
Ram bhajan mein doob kay apni nirmal kar le kaya,

राम नाम से प्रीत लगा के जीवन पार लगा ले,
Ram naam se preet lagaa kay jeevan paar laga le,

मन में राम बसाले,
Man mein ram basale,

बोले राम आजा राम बोले राम ….
Bole Ram aaja Ram Bole Ram…

Say Lord Ram Hail Ram,

Life will be successful if you have Lord Ram in your heart,

With every breath take the name of Lord Ram,

Lord Ram is kind, helps the downtrodden and gives you eternal happiness,

Very simple and pleasing to heart , Love Lord Ram.

Leave out this worldly pleasures as its all false,

Start the eternal flame of Lord Ram and see your fate change for better.

Always sing songs in praise of Lord Ram and make yourself pure,

Love the name of Lord Ram and He will see you through.

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: January 14, 2013, 11:09:47 PM »
Friends, am not making any point here, i am just, simply expressing.
Thank you


General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: January 14, 2013, 11:07:11 PM »
The journey will continue, at some point, all alone, but with faith that He is there, which we can not will remain awake when all sleep.

I realise that you get powers, ver scarry, whatever you will or wish begin to happen, people change for the good and leave you shell shocked, what you really desire begin to manifest. Its scarry. You no lnger are at ease like before, you no longer wish unnecessarily. Truth manifests as you wish it to be,

God is, if you see God
No God, if you see no God
You alone are, of you see you alone
You are nought, if you see you are nought

Everything is truth, and true.


General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: January 14, 2013, 10:42:48 PM »
Perhaps, one of the greatest 'thing' (don't know what word to use) to face upfront is the truth of alonenes. Some times, you fwel there is just you, as witness consciousness, none other, some times it feels from within, how unfortunate that there is truly only Self and no God, it is conveyed so very sensitively, that only 'you' are. The pure 'I'. I am sure this fear or the last thing may be found deep within ones heart, the questions which we avoid.

God is there
Only Brahman is truth
There is no God
'i' am the basis of all.

The whole fact is that i know not a thing, though thete seems plenty of knowing.

Spirituality is the only treasure which takes away the only thing that you seem to have, your mind. What is left theteafter? What matters if there is God, no God, or brahman or conscipusneds, what is it to me who am stolen of my only possession my ego, by which i was living decently, thou have consumed me, bit you have left something that is unconsumable, undestroyable, it is that aloneness, am 'i   or are ' you' ?

Oh why is this been left out unconsumed? Have thou become filled already? How can you consume a part of yourself that is left unconsimed. What more now? You have robbed me my ego, my world, my life, my possessions, my everything. Thou have made me a begger who cant even beg, as that begger also thou have consumed.

Thou has stumped me all out!!!!!


General topics / Re: Tiruppavai.
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:55:29 PM »

Having Purified ourselves,if we come with flowers fresh,
Sprinkling them in worship devout and dedicated,
while singing with our mouths paens spontaneous
with our minds steady in contemplation
of the Lord of wondrous deeds who is the son of the soil
of Mathura in the north and who is chieftain of the banks
of Yamuna flowing in pristine expanse
who appeared as a jewel-lamp in the clan of cow-herds,
and who illumined His mother's womb and is called damodaran,
then the sins of our past and those yet in store for us
would be reduced to nothing,even as dust-specs
are annihilated in the Blazing fire.Listen and ponder,our girl!


(Verse 5)

General topics / Re: Thayumanavar - Blessings
« on: January 14, 2013, 05:49:58 PM »
From Verse 10 of Karunakarak KadavuL:

இங்கற்ற படியங்கு மெனவறியு நல்லறிஞர்
       எக்காலமும் உதவுவார்
   இன்சொல்தவ றார்பொய்மை யாமிழுக் குரையார்
       இரங்குவார் கொலைகள்பயிலார்
சங்கற்ப சித்தரவ ருள்ளக் கருத்திலுறை
       சாட்சிநீ யிகபரத்துஞ்
   சந்தான கற்பகத் தேவா யிருந்தே
       சமத்தஇன் பமும்உதவுவாய்
சிங்கத்தை யொத்தென்னைப் பாயவரு வினையினைச்
       சேதிக்க வருசிம்புளே
   சிந்தா குலத்திமிரம் அகலவரு பானுவே
       தீனனேன் கரையேறவே
கங்கற்ற பேராசை வெள்ளத்தின் வளரருட்
       ககனவட் டக்கப்பலே
   கருதரிய சிற்சபையி லானந்த நிர்த்தமிடு
      கருணா கரக்கடவுளே.

       "Even as the detachment here
So is it above."

Thou art the Witness present in their hearts.
As the eternal Kalpaka Wishing Tree in the heavens,
Thou will grant all bliss.
Thou art the Sarabha *[1]
That comes to shatter my karmas
That leap on me like the lion.

Oh! The Sun that rises to dispel
The thick darkness of my troubled mind!
Thou art the heavenly ship of Grace
That has come to rescue me
From the waters of excessive desire.

Thou, the God of Compassion Fullness
That dances in rapture in the chit sabha
Defying description!

Verse 1 of Siddhar Ganam:

.....காட்டுவீர் மேலும்மேலும்
மிக்கசித் திகளெலாம் வல்லநீ ரடிமைமுன்
      விளங்குவரு சித்திஇலிரோ.....

       ...You can perform miraculous feats greater far.
For such as you, Is it a feat to appear before this slave?...

Verse 2 of Siddhar Ganam:

....மீட்டிடவும் வல்லநீ ரென்மனக் கல்லையனல்
      மெழுகாக்கி வைப்பதரிதோ....

       For such as you,
Is it too much to melt my stony heart?

Verse 4 of Siddhar GaNam:

எண்ணரிய பிறவிதனில் மானுடப் பிறவிதான்
      யாதினும் அரிதரிதுகாண்
   இப்பிறவி தப்பினா லெப்பிறவி வாய்க்குமோ
      ஏதுவருமோ அறிகிலேன்
கண்ணகல் நிலத்துநான் உள்ளபொழு தேஅருட்
      ககனவட் டத்தில்நின்று
   காலூன்றி நின்றுபொழி யானந்த முகிலொடு
      கலந்துமதி யவசமுறவே
பண்ணுவது நன்மைஇந் நிலைபதியு மட்டுமே
      பதியா யிருந்ததேகப்
   பவுரிகுலை யாமலே கௌரிகுண் டலியாயி
      பண்ணவிதன் அருளினாலே
விண்ணிலவு மதியமுதம் ஒழியாது பொழியவே
      வேண்டுவே னுமதடிமைநான்
   வேதாந்த சித்தாந்த சமரசநன் னிலைபெற்ற
      வித்தகச் சித்தர்கணமே

       Of the countless species of creation
The human birth is the most precious of all.
If I miss this birth, as what other species
Will I be born?
And what other things will befall me -
I know not.

So, when I am here below,
It is best that you make me swoon in joy,
Pouring the rains of rapture
From on the heavens high.

Until then alone, do I pray,
That this body habitat be preserved intact
And with the blessing It is best that you make me swoon in joy,
Pouring the rains of rapture
From on the heavens high.

Until then alone, do I pray,
That this body habitat be preserved intact
And with the blessing of Gauri Kundalini, the Creatrix,
May the ambrosia from the mystic moon continuous pour;
This, what I your slave crave for.
Oh! Thou, the Siddha Elite of Divine Light
That hath reached the Vedanta-Siddhanta accord high!

Verse 9 of Karunakarak KadavuL:

...கடல்மடை திறந்தனைய அன்பரன் புக்கெளியை
      கன்னெஞ்ச னுக்கெளியையோ...

       Thus unto the surging waters of the sea
Whose floodgates are open
Is the love of Thine devotees.
And to such love art Thou easy of reach.
Wilt Thou be of access
To hardhearted persons like me?

Subramanian Sir, Thanks so much, for all your efforts, I am lagging behind so much.........

General Discussion / Re: Christian quotes
« on: January 14, 2013, 03:02:32 PM »
fear not, for I am with you;be not dismayed, for I am your God;I will strengthen you, I will help you,I will uphold you with cmy righteous right hand.

(Isaiah 41.10)

General Discussion / Re: Sankranti / Pongal Greetings for 14.01.2013.
« on: January 13, 2013, 06:28:51 PM »

What joy our festivals bring, its wonderful feeling to go about in busy streets and buy the sugarcane, the manjal kottu, etc...

I feel extremely grateful to be born in our country :) Almost every second day there is some festival, that reminds the eternal tatvaa.

General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: January 13, 2013, 08:07:49 AM »
The tortoise moves about in the water.  But can you guess where her thoughts are? There on the bank, where her eggs are lying.  Do all your duties in the world, but keep your mind on God

The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna


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