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General Discussion / Re: Subject of Marriage
« on: February 12, 2013, 02:59:09 PM »
Thanks to all for all your thoughts. Each one us truly benefit accorfing to our individual journeys. I think one point is taken for naturally known to each one of us that anything that has to com or change, has to come from within. There is no doubt one should not force onto oneself anything. It is known that such self coersion wont help one in any way. The purpose of all discussions specially in this topic and in general, in this forum ought to help one acquiant one with oneself the highest ideal. It is absolutely upto the sadgaha's wisdom to work his salvation, as said by buddha. Assuming on one hand that the highest ideal has to come naturally and mot forced opon oneself, and wait for it to happen of its own accord, nothing will happen, bhagavan has said grace is always there its entirely upto sadhaka to take it, if we go with a small cup, we get that much and if we go with bigger, we get that much. If we remain with vague ideals that nothing needs to be done, it would be a grave error.

Mind requires something to feed upon, bhagavan said it feeds on what you give, if you give world, objects it feeds on that if we give god, it will feed on god. Our highest aspiration has to be to feed on God. Here i remember akshara manamalai, which speaks of beong eaten by him having come to feed on him.

It is to bring to light to ourselves how much we are slaves of ourind, television is one big example, and is truly a great hindrance to ones progress.

Carl jung, said, nobody comes to consciousness without pain. Spiritual life and goal is not as easy as it is popularly costrued, specially those that encourage to just be, nothing neef be done, on the other hand, our minds being slaves of so mamy things, we are not even aware about.

If not completely, as sadhakas, we ought to strive for the ideal.

we need to prepare ourselves mentally wiser and clearer and avoid such obvious impediments such as television and the likes, many other.

Thank you, from mobile.

From mobile, spellings, sentences excuses pls.

General Discussion / Re: Subject of Marriage
« on: February 12, 2013, 11:11:58 AM »
Udai, please cease from spoiling the sanctity of this thread. Thank you!

General Discussion / Re: Subject of Marriage
« on: February 12, 2013, 11:01:26 AM »

One who is genuienly serious of spiritual quest, should stop watching television altogether. For such a serious person, whatever station of life one may be in, watching television must be stopped. I believe there is no such thing like moderation for wathing television.

What may help us from watching television? We may ponder.

Humour / Re: Funny pictures,quotes,videos...
« on: February 12, 2013, 03:59:30 AM »
dear Sri Deepa,

A very poignant and important story.

General topics / Re: Naming Baby
« on: February 11, 2013, 07:42:37 PM »

Humour / Re: Funny pictures,quotes,videos...
« on: February 11, 2013, 07:31:30 PM »

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: February 11, 2013, 06:55:25 PM »
Well, i do not know if that is supposedly a compliment or a criticism, here, i give another ode to my spiritual credentials, What I am is your own problem, you seem to have so much time and ideas in differentiating between a spiritual and a non-spiritual person.

It does not matter to me if your are spiritual or otherwise or for that matter even myself!

:) :)

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: February 11, 2013, 06:17:20 PM »
:) he hee :) a casual note: in my absence ... this forum is very calm and peaceful :), everyone agreeing with everyone else and saying "very well said ! Sabash!!"

Quite true, individually, we should really take some piece from this expression of yours -

in my absence ... this forum is very calm and peaceful :)

when each refers to oneself, that is the primordial 'I' that is the ego, when it is absent, everything is calm and peaceful.

:) :)

General Discussion / Re: Quotes from Sri Aurobindo and Mother
« on: February 11, 2013, 06:08:04 PM »
Pain of mind and body is a device of Nature, that is to say, of
Force in her works, meant to subserve a definite transitional end
in her upward evolution.

(The Divine Life)

General Discussion / Re: Christian quotes
« on: February 11, 2013, 05:05:27 PM »
If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and
he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
[Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because
it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he
dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you
comfortless: I will come to you. Yet a little while, and
the world seeth me no more; but ye see me:
because I live, ye shall live also. At that day
ye shall know that I [am] in my Father, and
ye in me, and I in you.

(John 14.15 - 14.20)

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: February 11, 2013, 04:25:40 PM »
I am prompted to share this story, which perhaps most of us may already be familiar with:

Narada, a divine sage in Hindu mythology, is arguably the greatest of Vishnu’s many devotees. But Narada was considered to be vain about his devotion to Vishnu – every now and then he needed some validation from Vishnu. As the story goes, Narada once went to Vaikuntha (Vishnu’s abode in the heavens) and asked him, “Who is your favorite devotee?” Vishnu knew fully well what Narada was hoping to hear but he wanted to teach Narada a lesson. Vishnu names a poor farmer in a village on distant Earth as his favorite devotee. A crestfallen and baffled Narada wants to know what was so special about the farmer. Vishnu suggests that the two of them travel to the farmer’s house – Narada could then see for himself.

Narada and Vishnu promptly beam themselves down to the village and arrive at the farmer’s hut, disguised as weary travelers. The farmer is extremely hospitable and makes them feel at home. The next morning, Narada shadows the farmer as he works hard in his fields. Throughout the day, Narada doesn’t get any glimpse of the farmer’s extraordinary devoutness so when they return to the hut in the evening, a visibly puzzled Narada asks “When and how many times do you pray to / think about Vishnu?” The farmer replies “Once in the morning, once in the evening, and as many times during the day as I can during my time in the fields.” Narada and Vishnu thank the farmer for his hospitality and leave.

As soon as they were out of earshot, Narada lets out a guffaw and confronts Vishnu with “The farmer thinks about you a mere 5-6 times a day while I think and sing paeans to you every single waking minute. How could you possibly consider the farmer to be a more superior devotee than me?” Vishnu smiles, materializes a pot (filled to the brim with oil) and places it gingerly on Narada’s unsuspecting head. He then commands Narada to walk the width of the field and return to the original spot without spilling a single drop of oil. With utmost concentration, Narada manages to accomplish the feat.

Vishnu: “So Narada, how many times did you think about me during your walk across the field?”

Narada: “Not even once! How could I when all my attention was on the pot and ensuring that not a drop would spill?”

A smiling Vishnu delivering the checkmate: “The farmer works hard in his fields all day, yet he finds the time to think about me a few times. You, on the other hand, couldn’t think of me even once!”

just in good humor,   :) please do not mistake.

and in those moments, we also weren't thinking Bhagavan but were listening to conversations of some visitors and provide some free advice. Unfortunately i also do many time :(

Sri Ravi,

I recollect my own, such small experiences of listening to some songs sung by such persons in a very low and melodious tone expecting absolutely nothing in some corner.

Such instances leave life long impressions on our hearts, their voices still echoing from within. I don't even remember the temples or the deities but i remember these persons, their voice, their attire and their stance, the place.

Dear Sri Anil Ji,

Here is one quote from Bhagavan from Talks:

I have shown the way. You must now be able to follow it up and find peace wherever you are.

Similarly, here is one from Bible, Isaiah 30.21

And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This [is] the way, walk ye in it..

The onus is upon us to walk the way. What causes hindrances in walking along ought to be renounced and what may facilitate our walking ought to be absorbed.

Sir just one thing, i would like to comment on your observation. I fet it was rather harsh to say persons visit temple being unfit as just for picnics. Everybody goes to temples and masjids hoping some good will also come their way also, someday. Visiting temples and gurus even with a picnic mindset also has its positive effects.

The question is if we are that perseverant ourselves, after all. Atleast those unfit people recognise their inability and do something atleast to better themselves, instead of nothing.


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