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1486
General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: February 16, 2013, 08:14:03 PM »
Sri Ravi,

Truly we are blessed to have his satsang. Just a mention of his name does something from within, some feelings of mystic, siddha, desire to be near him, his satsang an intense longing for him. Whenever i go to ramanashram i also hope he is there too... But he is still beyond reach, but only physically. He arouses such things from within.

1487
General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: February 16, 2013, 07:10:18 PM »
Udai,

we can be able to love ourselves fully only when the dirt has be cleared, (the dirt is maya, illusion, etc.,) until then it is a marriage under contract to the witness of God.

One always shares what one has, if one loves oneself having dirt, he also shares along with the dirt, on the other hand if one is cleansed of all dirt, what remains is pure unsullied love, and when this is shared it is pure divine love.

But i liked both your posts.



Sri Jewel,

i really liked the way you have communicated your point, you have conveyed it in a very cordial manner. I discern your views and i absolutely resonate perfectly with you, there is no use of forceful control or unwarranted suppression, such practices of stritct control are not advisable and not wise.

But, the only point i feel in my own journey is that until the last trace of mind movements lasts, the movements that spring from tendencies lasts and linger, one cannot be said to be free. This is as i have understood. But i am open for knowledge, willing to learn if my understanding is not correct.


1488
General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: February 16, 2013, 06:25:02 PM »
Janaka reflected:

""As soon as I had decided on and attempted to turn my mind inward, another bright idea struck me : What confusion I am in! Although I am always in the perfection of bliss, what is it I want to do? What more can I acquire? What do I lack? When and whence can I get anything? Even if there were anything new to be gained, would it endure? How can I who am infinite consciousness-bliss know effort?
Individual bodies, their senses, minds, etc., are similar to visions in a dream ; they are projected from me. Control of one mind leaves all other minds as they are. So what is the use of controlling my mind? Minds controlled or uncontrolled, appear only to my mental eye.""

Dear Sri Jewel and friends,

i just contemplate, while this post is wonderful and straightaway destroys any ignorance still the line underlined by me in the above quote ought to be very carefully read and thoroughly understood.

We are free, the whole discussion was about this very subject today. The is very possibility that this freedom is misused in indulgence, which is the significance of the portrayal of popular characters such as Ravana Mahishasura, Bhasmasura and many other Rakshas of puranas, who eventually feel down from this freedom in indulgence, they all realised their immortality suddenly but had not mastered this freedom.  Hence it is important that one is Master of ones freedom, else that very freedom becomes bondage.

some thoughts.. thank you...


1489
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 05:51:01 PM »


Hold not, hold not the chariot's wheels!
Is it the wheels that make it move?
The Mover of its wheels is Krishna,
By whose will the worlds are moved. . . .


(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)


1490
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 05:45:22 PM »


  Thou art my All in All, O Lord!-the Life of my life, the Essence of essence;
In the three worlds I have none else but Thee to call my own.
Thou art my peace, my joy, my hope; Thou my support, my wealth, my glory;
Thou my wisdom and my strength.
Thou art my home, my place of rest; my dearest friend, my next of kin;
My present and my future, Thou; my heaven and my salvation.
Thou art my scriptures, my commandments; Thou art my ever gracious Guru;
Thou the Spring of my boundless bliss.
Thou art the Way, and Thou the Goal; Thou the Adorable One, O Lord!
Thou art the Mother tender-hearted; Thou the chastising Father;
Thou the Creator and Protector; Thou the Helmsman who dost steer
My craft across the sea of life.


(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)


1491
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 05:37:10 PM »


"Those whose spiritual consciousness has been awakened never make a false step.
They do not have to reason in order to shun evil. They are so full of love of God that
whatever action they undertake is a good action. They are fully conscious that they
are not the doers of their actions, but mere servants of God. They always feel:
'I am the machine and He is the Operator. I do as He does through me.
I speak as He speaks through me. I move as He moves me.'

"Fully awakened souls are beyond virtue and vice.
They realize that it is God who does everything.


(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)


1492
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 05:31:06 PM »
 
Nature of the ever-perfect

"The ever-perfect form a class by themselves. Not all birds have crooked beaks. The ever-perfect are never attached to the world. There is the instance of Prahlada.

"Ordinary people practise spiritual discipline and cultivate devotion to God; but they also become attached to the world and are caught in the glamour of 'woman and gold'. They are like flies, which sit on a flower or a sweetmeat and light on filth as well.

"But the ever-perfect are like bees, which light only on flowers and sip the honey. The ever-perfect drink only the Nectar of Divine Bliss. They are never inclined to worldly pleasures.

"The devotion of the ever-perfect is not like the ordinary devotion that one acquires as a result of strenuous spiritual discipline. Ritualistic devotion consists in repeating the name of God and performing worship in a prescribed manner. It is like crossing a rice-field in a roundabout way along the balk. Again, it is like reaching a near-by village by boat in a roundabout way along a winding river.

"One does not follow the injunctions of ceremonial worship when one develops raga-bhakti, when one loves God as one's own. Then it is like crossing a rice-field after the harvest. You don't have to walk along the balk. You can go straight across the field in any direction.

"When the country is flooded deep with water, one doesn't have to follow the winding river. Then the fields are deep under water. You can row your boat straight to the village.

"Without this intense attachment, this passionate love, one cannot realize God."

1493
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 05:25:29 PM »



MASTER (to Rakhal's father and the devotees):

"Ah, what a nice character Rakhal has developed!
Look at his face and every now and then you will
notice his lips moving. Inwardly he repeats the
name of God, and so his lips move.

(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)



 

1494
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 05:18:47 PM »
Life of worldliness

About nine o'clock in the morning the Master was seated in his room with Rakhal, M., and a few other devotees. It was the day of the new moon. As usual with him on such days, Sri Ramakrishna entered again and again into communion with the Divine Mother. He said to the devotees: "God alone exists, and all else is unreal. The Divine Mother has kept all deluded by Her maya. Look at men. Most of them are entangled in worldliness. They suffer so much, but still they have the same attachment to 'woman and gold'. The camel eats thorny shrubs, and blood gushes from its mouth; still it will eat thorns. While suffering pain at the time of delivery, a woman says, 'Ah! I shall never go to my husband again.' But afterwards she forgets.

"The truth is that no one seeks God. There are people who eat the prickly leaves of the pineapple and not the fruit."

DEVOTEE: "Sir, why has God put us in the world?"

MASTER: "The world is the field of action. Through action one acquires knowledge. The guru instructs the disciple to perform certain works and refrain from others. Again, he advises the pupil to perform action without desiring the result. The impurity of the mind is destroyed through the performance of duty. It is like getting rid of a disease by means of medicine, under the instruction of a competent physician.

"Why doesn't God free us from the world? Ah, He will free us when the disease is cured. He will liberate us from the world when we are through with the enjoyment of 'woman and gold'. Once a man registers his name in the hospital, he cannot run away. The doctor will not let him go away unless his illness is completely cured."

(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)


1495
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 05:16:01 PM »
Constant practice urged

"Through the discipline of constant practice one is able to give up attachment to 'woman and gold'. That is what the Gita says. By practice one acquires uncommon power of mind. Then one doesn't find it difficult to subdue the sense-organs and to bring anger, lust, and the like under control. Such a man behaves like a tortoise, which, once it has tucked in its limbs, never puts them out. You cannot make the tortoise  put its limbs out again, though you chop it to pieces with an axe."

(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)

Friends, i know many of these are already posted before, but i am posting all these for myself !!


1496
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 05:08:53 PM »
Parable of the two farmers

"Let me tell you a story about strong renunciation. At one time there was a drought in a certain part of the country. The farmers began to cut long channels to bring water to their fields. One farmer was stubbornly determined. He took a vow that he would not stop digging until the channel connected his field with the river. He set to work. The time came for his bath, and his wife sent their daughter to him with oil. 'Father,' said the girl, 'it is already late. Rub your body with oil and take your bath.' 'Go away!' thundered the farmer. 'I have too much to do now.' It was past midday, and the farmer was still at work in his field. He didn't even think of his bath. Then his wife came and said: 'Why haven't you taken your bath? The food is getting cold. You overdo everything. You can finish the rest tomorrow or even today after dinner.' The farmer scolded her furiously and ran at her, spade in hand, crying: 'What? Have you no sense? There's no rain. The crops are dying. What will the children eat? You'll all starve to death. I have taken a vow not to think of bath and food today before I bring water to my field.' The wife saw his state of mind and ran away in fear. Through a whole day's back-breaking labour the farmer managed by evening to connect his field with the river. Then he sat down and watched the water flowing into his field with a murmuring sound. His mind was filled with peace and joy. He went home, called his wife, and said to her, 'Now give me some oil and prepare me a smoke.' With serene mind he finished his bath and meal, and retired to bed, where he snored to his heart's content. The determination he showed is an example of strong renunciation.


"Now, there was another farmer who was also digging a channel to bring water to his field. His wife, too, came to the field and said to him: 'It's very late. Come home. It isn't necessary to overdo things.' The farmer didn't protest much, but put aside his spade and said to his wife, 'Well, I'll go home since you ask me to.' (All laugh) That man never succeeded in irrigating his field. This is a case of mild renunciation.

"As without strong determination the farmer cannot bring water to his field, so also without intense yearning a man cannot realize God."

(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)


1497
General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: February 16, 2013, 04:59:37 PM »
I may have already posted this, not sure, but, i felt necessary to pot now again, this small talk of Nochur Acharya, its beneficial to keep reminding ourselves again and again the essence of what has been conveyed below:

For realising God, the first requisite is a burning desire to do so. This is what every Mahan comes into the world to teach. It is not necessary that we know who or what God is. When the time is right, He will reveal Himself to us by sending a Sadguru into our lives who will give us the requisite Upadesha and confer liberation. But the pre requisite to all this is the ceaseless Taapam - loosely translated, a burning desire, which makes us extremely uncomfortable in our present state of being. What is required is the thought process which reprimands us for enjoying so many sensory pleasures while age and time slip through our hands; taking congnisance of that fact that we lack seriousness in what is perhaps the most serious thing in our lives and spend our lives instead on other worthless pursuits.
 
To illustrate this point, a story that Buddha said may be used - A man who is walking on a mountain, loses his balance and falls. He finds a rope to hang on to from which he hopes to come to safety. Above him stands a tiger that was in hot pursuit. Below lies a dangerous depth, into which if he were to fall, not even a shred of his body may be recovered. And is his rope strong enough? No .... There is a rat gnawing away at the rope!! This is the predicament of the man. And in the midst of this, there is a drop of honey that drips from a honeycomb. Impervious to the danger that he is in, this man tries to reach for that honey!! This is exactly human existence. Fraught with dangers on all sides. The rat called Time is gnawing away at our lives, and we seek momentary pleasure in watching television and mindless gossip wasting an already too short lifespan!!
 
Bhartruhari says in a sarcastic manner, that we in the world are so busy, engrossed in the meaningless day to day pursuits that we do not have the time to look inwards or strive for emancipation! How ironic!

आदित्यस्य गतागतैरहरहः संक्षीयते जीवितं
व्यापारैर्बहुकार्यभारगुरुभिः कालोऽपि न ज्ञायते ।
दृष्ट्वा जन्मजराविपत्तिमरणं त्रासश्च नोत्पद्यते
पीत्वा मोहमयीं प्रमादमदिरामुन्मत्तभूतं जगत् ॥४३॥

The sun rises and sets, each day goes past and the only assurance we have is that the day that is gone shall never come back again, time slips through our fingers and what do we do? He says that life is going out consistently like water which is going out of a leaky mud pot, but we are busy immersed in the day to day affairs of life (व्यापारैर्बहुकार्यभारगुरुभिः). (very seriously engaged in various duties) We claim that we are so busy that we do not have the time to think of God!!! Some people say, "I wish I could come to your Satsangam, but I am so busy, so many duties, I am not able to. Please forgive me". The tone that they use seems to imply that they consider coming to the Satsangam a favour that they bestow on others (the person who is giving the pravachanam)
 
This is how people pass through life, blithely unaware of Time slipping through their fingers, never to come back again. Is it that they never get an opportunity to contemplate on all this or does God does not remind us about these? No .... God reminds them in various ways - four ways to be exact(दृष्ट्वा जन्मजराविपत्तिमरणं) We see children being born, a man in the prime of his youth move on to Old age, calamities, disaster and accidents, and then finally, the clincher of all - Death. He says he is amazed at how people remain unafraid in the midst of all this. And why is it that man is not afraid? He is inebriated with the toddy of ignorance. That intoxication has spoilt his mental balance and so he manages to remain unafraid (त्रासश्च नोत्पद्यते) The world is caught in a fit of madness, he says. Man is drunk on ignorance and his thinking faculties are dulled by it (पीत्वा मोहमदिरां) This world is gotten mad (उन्मत्तभूतं जगत्) If men were drunk on Bhakthi it would be fine. That is an ecstasy which uplifts, but unfortunately man is drunk on ignorance and his thinking faculties are dulled by it. Which is why he refuses to think, is unable to think in fact, about time which is going past too fast.
 
But what the sages say is that a man should strive to Realise God with the same urge with which a man would run towards water, had his head caught fire (प्रदीप्त शिरहा जलराशिमिव). It is with the same sense of urgency that one should pursue God – Realisation (समिप्पाणिः श्रोत्रियम् ब्रह्मनिष्ठमुपगच्छेत्). And this samsara, has been as disconcerting as fire on one's head for Bhakthas and Rishis.


1498
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 04:56:59 PM »
Bondage removed by strong renunciation

VIJAY: "What must the bound soul's condition of mind be in order to achieve liberation?"

MASTER: "He can free himself from attachment to 'woman and gold' if, by the grace of God, he cultivates a spirit of strong renunciation.

What is this strong renunciation?

One who has only a mild spirit of renunciation says,
'Well, all will happen in the course of time; let me now simply repeat the name of God.'

But a man possessed of a strong spirit of renunciation feels restless for God, as the mother feels for her own child. A man of strong renunciation seeks nothing but God. He regards the world as a deep well and feels as if he were going to be drowned in it. He looks on his relatives as venomous snakes; he wants to fly away from them. And he does go away. He never thinks, 'Let me first make some arrangement for my family and then I shall think of God.' He has great inward resolution.

(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)


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General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 04:48:13 PM »
Worldly-minded forget their lessons

"The bound creatures, entangled in worldliness, will not come to their senses at all. They suffer so much misery and agony, they face so many dangers, and yet they will not wake up. "The camel loves to eat thorny bushes. The more it eats the thorns, the more the blood gushes from its mouth. Still it must eat thorny plants and will never give them up. The man of worldly nature suffers so much sorrow and affliction, but he forgets it all in a few days and begins his old life over again. Suppose a man has lost his wife or she has turned unfaithful. Lo! He marries again.

"Or take the instance of a mother: her son dies and she suffers bitter grief; but after a few days she forgets all about it. The mother, so overwhelmed with sorrow a few days before, now attends to her toilet and puts on her jewelry. A father becomes bankrupt through the marriage of his daughters, yet he goes on having children year after year. People are ruined by litigation, yet they go to court all the same. There are men who cannot feed the children they have, who cannot clothe them or provide decent shelter for them; yet they have more
children every year.

"Again, the worldly man is like a snake trying to swallow a mole. The snake can neither swallow the mole nor give it up. The bound soul may have realized that there is no substance to the world-that the world is like a hog plum, only stone and skin-but still he cannot give it up and turn his mind to God.

"I once met a relative of Keshab Sen, fifty years old. He was playing cards. As if the time had not yet come for him to think of God!

"There is another characteristic of the bound soul. If you remove him from his worldly surroundings to a spiritual environment, he will pine away. The worm that grows in filth feels very happy there. It thrives in filth. It will die if you put it in a pot of rice."

All remained silent.

(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)


1500
General Discussion / Re: Teachings of Sri Ramakrishna
« on: February 16, 2013, 04:45:20 PM »
"One must admit the existence of tendencies inherited from previous births. There is a story about a man who practised the sava-sadhana.l  He worshipped the Divine Mother in a deep forest. First he saw many terrible visions. Finally a tiger attacked and killed him. Another man, happening to pass and seeing the approach of the tiger, had climbed a tree. Afterwards he got down and found all the arrangements for worship at hand. He performed some purifying ceremonies and seated himself on the corpse. No sooner had he done a little japa than the Divine Mother appeared before him and said: 'My child, I am very much pleased with you. Accept a boon from Me.' He bowed low at the Lotus Feet of the Goddess and said: 'May I ask You one question, Mother? I am speechless with amazement at Your action. The other man worked so hard to get the ingredients for Your worship and tried to propitiate You for such a long time, but You didn't condescend to show him Your favour. And I, who don't know anything of worship, who have done nothing, who have neither devotion nor knowledge nor love, and who haven't practised any austerities, am receiving so much of Your grace.' The Divine Mother said with a laugh: 'My child, you don't remember your previous births. For many births you tried to propitiate Me through austerities. As a result of those austerities all these things have come to hand, and you have been blessed with My Vision. Now ask Me your boon.' "

(The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna)


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