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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: April 27, 2013, 11:03:06 AM »

         विशुद्धं परं सच्चिदानन्दरूपम्
       गुणाधारमाधारहीनं वरेण्यम् |
 महान्तं विभान्तं गुहान्तं गुणान्तं
       सुखान्तं स्वयं धाम रामं प्रपद्ये || १ ||

Vishudham param sachidananda roopam,
Gunadhara madhara heenam varenyam,
Mahantham vibhantham guhantham gunantham,
Sukhantham swayamdhama ramam prapadhye.

I take refuge in Sri Raama, who is the purest, the
 greatest, of the form of Existence,Consciousness and
 Bliss; who is the repository of the innumerable good
 qualities,while Himself not needing any support,who is
 the most worshipful,who is all pervading, the most
 resplendent one, who is enthroned in the hearts of all
 beings,who is above all the three guNas of sattva,
 rajas and tamas,who is free of all materialistic
 pleasures and who is Self-supporting.

Adi Shankaracharya, Rama Bhujanga Stotram

Dear Jyothi,

The words are not more important than what it conveys. The only purpose of words is to communicate and once you literally have understood the meaning, then any language is fine, we can even use our native languuage as well, which ever is inspiring to us.

Bhagavan has said in Who am I:

even if one merely continuously repeats to oneself inwardly ‘I-I’ with
the entire mind fixed thereon, that also leads one to the same source.

Therefore, go with what is in inspiration to your heart! If you feel the grace when you say, AHAM, AHAM, AHAM,... take it or if you fell the grace when you say, AHAM ASMI, AHAM ASMI, AHAM ASMI, ... go with it.

or if you feel comfortable using your native language, (in my case tamil, as follows:) as NAAN, NAAN, NAAN,... go with it.

The key is to absorb the essence. Once the essence has been absorbed, then the essence becomes of more importance than the words. Words are merely just like addresses mentioned in a slip of paper, once we have known the address, the only that we require to do is to  go according to the direction as grasped from those words mention in that slip of paper, The paper with those words of address is no more important than to reaching that destination.


General Discussion / Re: Christian quotes
« on: April 26, 2013, 12:23:18 PM »

Deliver me from mine enemies, O my God:
defend me from them that rise up against me.

(Psalm 59.1)


General topics / Re: Thayumanavar - Blessings
« on: April 26, 2013, 12:04:49 PM »
Dear Sir,

What a beautiful expression!

This verse that you have posted me took me back to the moment which inspired me to open this topic, the very first post, which i am posting below once again -

தந்தை தாயுநீ என்னுயிர்த் துணையுநீ சஞ்சல மதுதீர்க்க
வந்த தேசிக வடிவுநீ உனையலால் மற்றொரு துணைகாணேன்
அந்தம் ஆதியும் அளப்பருஞ் சோதியே ஆதியே அடியார்தஞ்
சிந்தை மேவிய தாயுமா னவனெனுஞ் சிரகிரிப் பெருமானே. 10.

than-thai thAyun-I ennuyirth thuNaiyun-I sanjsala mathuthIrkka
van-tha thEsika vadivun-I unaiyalAl maRRoru thuNaikANEn
an-tham Athiyum aLapparunj sOthiyE AthiyE adiyArthanj
sin-thai mEviya thAyumA navanenunj sirakirip perumAnE. 10.

Thou art father and mother!
Thou art the support of my life.
Thou art the Guru Form
That came to relieve my distress.
None other support do I see but Thee.
Thou art the immeasurable Light
Without beginning and end.
Thou, the Primal Being!
Thou, Thayumanava! Lord of Sivagiri
That is seated in the thoughts of devotees true!

Salutations to the Great Guru.

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: April 26, 2013, 10:16:56 AM »
The Buddha once summarised his entire teachings in one sentence:

"I teach about suffering and the way to end it".


General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: April 25, 2013, 05:15:03 PM »
Don’t be stuck with words. Your worries are words. Your ideas are words. Wisdom is beyond words. It is your very Being; the essence of all words. See and relate beyond words. Then there is no lie in your life.

If you manipulate words, it is a lie;
If you play on words, it is a joke;
If you rely on words, it is ignorance;
If you transcend words, it is wisdom.

Sri Sri Sri Ravishankar


General Discussion / Re: does name Japa help churn the NAdis?
« on: April 25, 2013, 04:43:49 PM »
Dear Sir,

True, and any Sadhana is absolutely potent and revealed by Great Sages, what is only required is shraddha or faith, initially, either make or fake, we have to act with faith shraddha, later it transforms itself into true shraddha faith, such fiery faith will engulf us.

The problem is we want all to happen in a flash!

The two golden words which poured from the mouth of Shirdi Baba is Shraddha (Faith) and Saburi (Patience) - These are his teachings in a nutshell!

Therefore, we have to take one sadhana and stick to it without giving any room for doubts, perform the sadhana as anushtaana that is to keep doing it till we are conquered, anushtanam ceases to be when fiery faith takes over, thereafter there is no effort there.

We must atleast put 20% - 40% of the hard work on our sadhana or anushtana that we put towards our job and work for our bosses (or rather for money  ;) )! While we put 100% sincere efforts in our jobs, we struggle and complain even to exert ourselves for the mere 10% effort that we put on our daily anushtanas or any sadhana and we complain!

Effort is sine qua non.


General Discussion / Re: does name Japa help churn the NAdis?
« on: April 25, 2013, 04:31:51 PM »
Japa does not work for me. I go to sleep every time I attempt. Or, if I am awake, I become terribly bored with it.

This really means, the Japa is really working excellently, all the dormant dusts and Aasuric qualities within are coming out, being flushed out, you have persist with it with effort without minding the boredom and sleep.

Harih Om!


Stories told by Sri Bhagavan:

D: Is it possible to speak to Iswara as Sri Ramakrishna did?
M: When we can speak to each other why should we not speak to Iswara in the same way?
D: Then why does it not happen with us?
M: It requires purity and strength of mind and practicein meditation.
D: Does God become evident if the above conditions exist?
M: Such manifestation is as real as your own reality. In other words, when you identify yourself with the body as in jagrat you see gross objects; when in subtle body or in mental plane as in swapna, you see objects equally subtle; in the absence of identification as in sushupti  you see nothing. The objects seen bear a relation to the state of the seer. The same applies to visions of God. By long practice the figure of God, as meditated upon, appears in dream and may later appear in jagrat also.
D: Is that the state of God-realisation?
M: Listen to what happened once years ago.

Vithoba found Namdev had not yet realised the Supreme Truth and wanted to teach him. When Jnaneswar and Namdev returned from their  pilgrimage, Gora Kumbhar gave a feast to all the saints in his place and among them were Jnaneswar and Namdev. At the feast Jnaneswar,  in collusion with Gora, told Gora publicly, “You are a potter, daily engaged in making pots and testing them to see which are properly baked and which are not. These pots before you (i.e., the saints) are the pots of Brahma. See which of these are sound and which not.” Thereupon Gora said, “Yes, Swami, I shall do so,” and took up the stick with which he used to tap his pots to test their soundness. Holding it aloft in his hand he went to each of his guests and tapped each on the head as he usually did to his pots. Each guest humbly submitted to such tapping. But when Gora approached Namdev, the latter indignantly called out, “You potter, what do you mean by coming to tap me  with that stick?” Gora thereupon told Jnaneswar, “Swami, all the other pots have been properly baked. This one (i.e. Namdev) alone is not yet properly baked.” All the assembled guests burst into laughter.

Namdev felt greatly humiliated and ran up to Vitthala (the deity he worshipped) with whom he was on the most intimate terms, playing with him, eating with him, sleeping with him and so on. Namdev complained of this humiliation which had happened to him, the closest friend and companion of Vitthala. Vitthala (who of course knew all this) pretended to sympathise with him, asked for all the details of the happenings at Gora’s house and after hearing everything said, “Why should you not have kept quiet and submitted to the tapping, as all  the others did? That is why all this trouble has come.” Thereupon Namdev cried all the more and said, “You also want to join the others and humiliate me. Why should I have submitted like the others? Am I not your closest friend, your child?” Vitthala said, “You have not yet  properly understood the truth, and you won’t understand if I tell you. But go to the saint who is in a ruined temple in such and such a forest. He will be able to give you enlightenment.”

Namdev accordingly went there and found an old, unassuming man sleeping in a corner of the temple with his feet on a Sivalingam. Namdev could hardly believe this was the man from whom he – the companion of Vitthala – was to gain enlightenment. However, as there was none else there, Namdev went near the man and clapped his hands. The old man woke up with a start and seeing Namdev,  said, “Oh – you are Namdev whom Vitthala has sent here. Come!” Namdev was dumbfounded and began to think, “This must be a great
man.” Still he thought it was revolting that any man however great, should be resting his feet on a lingam. He asked the old man, “You seem to be a great personage. But is it proper for you to have your feet on a lingam?” The old man replied, “Oh, are my feet on a lingam? Where is it? Please remove my feet elsewhere.” Namdev removed the feet and put them in various places. Wherever they were put, there was a Sivalingam. Finally, he took them on his lap and he himself became a Sivalingam! Then he realised the truth and the old gentleman said, “Now you can go back.”

Bhagavan added, “It is to be noted that only when he surrendered himself, and touched the feet of his guru, enlightenment came. After this final enlightenment Namdev returned to his house and for some days did not go to Vitthala at the temple, though it had been his habit not only to visit Vitthala every day, but to spend most of his time with Vitthala at the temple. So, after a few days, Vitthala went to Namdev’s house and like a guileless soul, enquired how it was that Namdev had forgotten him and never visited him. Namdev replied, ‘No more of your fooling me. I know now. Where is the place where you are not! To be with you, should I go to the temple? Do I exist apart from you?’ Then Vitthala said, ‘So you now understand the truth. That is why you had to be sent for this final lesson’.”


General topics / Re: Sangeetha Dhyana
« on: April 25, 2013, 11:11:15 AM »
मैं पल दो पल का शायर हूँ,
पल दो पल मेरी कहानी हैं
पल दो पल मेरी हस्ती है,
पल दो पल मेरी जवानी हैं

main pal do pal ka shaayar huun
pal do pal meri kahaani hai
pal do pal meri hansti hai
pal do pal meri jawaani hai

I'm a poet only for a second or two;
my story will be over in a few seconds.
My laughter is only for a moment or two;
my youth will be over in a few moments.

मुझ से पहले कितने शायर, आये और आकर चले गए
कुछ आहे भर कर लौट गए, कुछ नग्में गा कर चले गए
वो भी एक पल का किस्सा थे, मैं भी एक पल का किस्सा हूँ
कल तुम से जुदा हो जाऊंगा, वो आज तुम्हारा हिस्सा हूँ

mujhse pahale kitne shaayar aaye aur aakar chale gaye
kuchh aahein bharkar laut gaye kuchh nagme gaakar chale gaye
voh bhi ek pal ka qissa tha main bhi ek pal ka qissa huun
kal tumse juda ho jaa'uunga voh aaj tumhaara hissa huun

Many poets came before me, and after coming, departed;
some went filled with sighs, and some went singing songs.
They were only the story of a moment in time;
 I too am only the story of a moment.
Tomorrow I will be separated from you, but for today,
I'm a part of you.

कल और आयेंगे, नग्मों की खिलती कलियाँ चुननेवाले
मुझ से बेहतर कहनेवाले, तुम से बेहतर सुननेवाले
कल कोई मुझको याद करे, क्यों कोई मुझको याद करे
मसरूफ ज़माना मेरे लिए, क्यों वक्त अपना बरबाद करे

main pal do pal ka shaayar huun kal aur aayeinge nagmon ki
khilti kaliyaan chunnevaale mujhse behatar kahanevaale
tumse behatar sunnevaale kal koi mujhko yaad kare
kyon koi mujhko yaad kare masaruuf zamaana mere liye
kyon vaqt apna barbaad kare

I'm a poet of a moment or two, no more.
Tomorrow new songs will arrive,
freshly bloomed blossoms to be plucked.
There will be better storytellers than me,
and better listeners than you.
Tomorrow, someone might remember me;
but why should anyone remember me?
For my sake, why should this busy world
waste its time?

मैं पल दो पल का शायर हूँ
main pal do pal ka shaayar huun

I'm a poet only for a moment or two.



General topics / Re: Sangeetha Dhyana
« on: April 25, 2013, 10:56:37 AM »
कहीं दूर जब दिन ढल जाए
सांझ की दुल्हन
बदन चुराए, चुपके से आए
मेरे ख़यालों के आँगन में
कोई सपनों के
दीप जलाए, दीप जलाए

Kahin Door Jab Din Dhal Jaye
Sanjh Ki Dulhan Badan Churaye, Chupke Se Aaye
Mere Khayalon Ke Aangan Mein
Koi Sapnon Ke Deep Jalaye

Somewhere far away when the day retires
The dusk sneaks up, shyly like a bride
In the courtyard of my thoughts,
Someone lights up lamps of dreams..

कभी यूँही जब हुईं
बोझल सांसें
भर आईं बैठे बैठे
जब यूँहीं आँखें
कभी यूँही जब हुईं
बोझल सांसें
भर आईं बैठे बैठे
जब यूँहीं आँखें
कभी मचल के प्यार से चल के
छुए कोई मुझे पर
नज़र न आए नज़र न आए

Kabhi Yun Hi Jab Hui Bojhal Saansen
Bhar Aai Baithe Baithe Jab Yoon Hi Aankhen
Kabhi Machal Ke Pyaar Se Chal Ke
Chhuye Koi Mujhe Par Nazar Na Aaye
Nazar na aaye..
Kahin Door..

Sometimes when without a reason my breaths become heavy
When my eyes well up just sitting there
Then with a flutter, moving with love,
Someone touches me, but cannot be seen..
but cannot be seen..

    कहीं तो ये दिल कभी
मिल नहीं पाते
कहीं से निकल आयें
जन्मों के नाते
कहीं तो ये दिल कभी
मिल नहीं पाते
कहीं से निकल आयें
जन्मों के नाते
धनि थी उलझन वैरी अपना मन
अपना ही होके सहे
दर्द पराये दर्द पराये

Kahin To Yeh Dil Kabhi Mil Nahin Paate
Kahin Pe Nikal Aaye Janmon Ke Naate
Ghani Thi Uljhan Bairi Apna Man
Apna Hi Hoke Sahe Dard Paraye
Kahin Door...

Sometimes these hearts are unable to come together
But somewhere a connection emerges that transcends many lifetimes
The problem was deep and my own heart turned against me
By belonging to me, yet bearing the pain of another

दिल जाने मेरे सारे
भेद ये गहरे
हो गए कैसे मेरे
सपने सुन्हेरे
दिल जाने मेरे सारे
भेद ये गहरे
हो गए कैसे मेरे
सपने सुन्हेरे
ये मेरे सपने यही तो हैं अपने
मुझसे से जुदा न होंगे
इनके ये साए इनके ये साए

Dil Jaane Mere Saare Bhed Ye Gehre
Ho gaye Kaise Mere Sapne Sunehre
Yeh Mere Sapne Yehi To Hain Apne
Mujhse Juda Na Hoge Inke Yeh Saaye
Kahin Door..

My heart knows all these deep secrets of mine
How my dreams became golden..
My these dreams, these alone are my own,
Even their shadows will not be separated from me..
somewhere far away..



General topics / Re: Direction in life.
« on: April 25, 2013, 10:12:24 AM »
आनो भद्रा क्रतवो यन्तु विश्वतः

aano bhadraa kratavo yantu vishvatah

Let noble thought come from all sides of the world!

(Rig Veda)


General topics / Re: Thayumanavar - Blessings
« on: April 24, 2013, 06:49:18 PM »

General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: April 24, 2013, 06:43:52 PM »
Stray thoughts...

We loose ourselves in order to enjoy the pain of separation.


General Discussion / Re: Christian quotes
« on: April 24, 2013, 06:37:06 PM »

No one is cast off by the Lord forever. Though he brings grief, he will
show compassion, so great is his unfailing love. For he
does not willingly bring affliction or grief to anyone.

Lamentations 3.31-33


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