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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: December 20, 2014, 10:32:07 AM »
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This is true of any path and not just 'self-enquiry'(By the way there are only two paths-the path of Sreyas and the path of preyas;all the rest are just techicalities!).What Sri Annamalai swami has said is that one need not take to a 'preparatory sadhana' in order to become fit for 'vichara'.This does not mean that he did not advocate any disciplined Living.Far from it.
Swami himself came to Sri Bhagavan when he was 18 or 19 and was disciplined under the guidance of Sri Bhagavan.When he took 'two sweets turning around a corner where no one could see him',Sri Bhagavan asked him-'What?Two helpings for you!'.This way Swami understood that wherever one is,one is always under the watchful eyes of the Guru-He developed this attitude.
Again when he was assailed by sexual thoughts,Sri Bhagavan made him stand on a hot rock.He was made to take the responsibility of constructing all the buildings without letting know anyone that all the suggestions came from Bhagavan-and he was made to face all the opposition from chinna Swami and others.
It is after all this and after the 'samadhi' experience , he followed the 'Neti,Neti' version only and advised the same to others as well.

So a lot of 'elimination' he had to do or was made to do-all this are part of sadhana

This is with regard to the comments of Sri Ravi in Anil's thread .
I concur with what Sri Ravi has said .Technically everyone is eligible for the direct path  but in practice only very few can start with it directly from the beginning . In this regard I wish to share what Swami Krishnananda ( Senior Disciple of Swami Sivananda ) advised one amewrican devotee who wanted to practice sadhana all alone in his place ( he was a foreigner who stayed in some Urban city in USA ) .Swami Krishnananda asked him apart from Sadhana what he will be doing in day to day life and he told that he is rich enough and does not have the necessity to do a 9-5 job and hence can do sadhana in his own house and being unmarried he has not much obligations and leads a simple life .Swami Krishnananda told him that technically it appears that he has a good conducive environment for practicing sadhana but he told that intitally he will enjoy it but later he will have to confront all the vasanas( especially the negative ones )  that will be eupting with great intensity and he will himself be confused and disgusted by the same .Swami Krishnananda said that when they were sadhaks Swami Sivananda gave them lot of work at the Rishikesh Ashram and made them wipe of many of the samskaras before he shaped them in their core areas and prescribed the appropriate sadhanas for each of them . He told that as young sadhaks they had the protective ring of the ashram environment as well as the protective ring of the Guru's direct energy in living form and yet many had to struggle and for this young chap in the absence of such a protection it is not advisable to do sadhana at home from the scratch and he told him that it is better he take some physical work ( even voluntary one ) at his place and keep the body and mind engaged in work and do a short sadhana and make a pilgrimage to Rishikesh or any other holy place and do sadhana in an ashram life environment  for  10 days yearly and then go back and slowly build up his sadhana at home till they are able to comfortbaly do their sadhana at their own places  . Even now many inmates of Sri Ramanaashram and those who have made Thiruvanamalai their home do daily Giri Pradakshina as a form of extrenal sadhana .In Rishikesh many Sadhus  walk along the banks of River Ganga for many Kilometers as a form of Ganga Parikrama and some even walk up to Gomukh /Gangotri and that will take many days . Swami Sivananda , Swami Chinmayananda ,Swami Tapovan etc have done many such trips  . Lot of vasanas have to be removed through some form of hard physical activity especially at the initial stages  and Bhagavan Ramana himself  gave lot of  activity to Sri Annamalai Swami before he advised him for full time meditation in solitude  . Swami Sivananda also did the same with many of his chief disciples .
Of course there are always  excpetions to this rule but the above is applicable to most of the people .

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: December 18, 2014, 12:13:54 PM »

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: December 15, 2014, 10:17:30 PM »
திருப்பாவை ? திருவெம்பாவை (மகா பெரியவா)


மார்கழி மாதம் பிறந்து விட்டால் போதும் ? தமிழ்நாட்டிலுள்ள எல்லாக் கோவில்களின் கோபுரங்களிலிருந்தும் இசைமாரி பொழிய ஆரம்பித்து விடும் ? விடியற்காலை நாலு மணியிலிருந்தே ! சிவன் கோவிலாக இருந்தால், திருவெம்பாவையும் திருபள்ளிஎழுச்சியும்; பெருமாள் கோவிலாக இருந்தால், திருப்பாவை. இது தவிர, திருப்பாவை ? திருவெம்பாவை மாநாடுகள்; வைணப் புலவர்கள் காலில் சக்கரத்தைக் கட்டிக்கொண்டு, ஊர் ஊராகச் சென்று சொற்பொழியாற்றுவார்கள். பள்ளிக்கூடங்களில், பாவப் பாடல் போட்டி ? பரிசுகள் !

இத்தனைக் கோலாகலம் எப்போது, யாரால் ஆரம்பிக்கப்பட்டது ? தலைக்காவேரியில்,நீர்த்திவலைகலாகக் தோன்றும் காவேரி, பறந்து விரிந்து வெள்ளமாகப் பெருகி அகண்டகாவேரியாக மாறிப் பிரமிக்க வைக்கிறது. அப்படித்தான், பாவைகள் பப்ளிக் ஆனதும், யாரோ சில சைவர்களும் வைணவர்களும் தனித்தனியாக முணுமுணுத்துக் கொண்டிருந்த பாவைகள், பார் எங்கும் பரவி, விசுவரூபம் எடுத்துவிட்டன.

1949, மகாசுவாமிகள் திருவிடமருதூரில் தங்கியிருந்தார்கள். மகாலிங்கஸ்வாமி கோவிலில், செட்டியார் வகுப்பைச் சேர்ந்த ஓர் அம்மையார் கையில் ஒரு புத்தகத்தை வைத்துக் கொண்டு நாள்தோறும் பாடி வருவதைப் பெரியவா கவனித்துவிட்டர்கள். ? அந்த ஆச்சி என்ன பாடிக்கொண்டிருக்கா தெரியுமோ ?? உடன் வந்துக்கொண்டிருந்த பக்தர் ராமமூர்த்தியையும் கைங்கர்யபரர் கண்ணனையும் பார்த்துக் கேட்டார்கள். பெரியவா. ஒரே குரலில், ?தெரியாது? என்று பதில் வந்தது. ?அந்த ஆச்சி அம்மாள், திருவெம்பாவை படிச்சிண்டிருக்கா ? நல்ல ராகத்தோட..? இரண்டு நிமிஷ நடை. ?இந்தப் பாடல்களை எல்லோரும் பாட வேண்டும் என்று பிரசாரம் செய்தால், யாரவது பாடுவார்களா ?.. ?ஒருவரும் பாட மாட்டார்கள். இது, யாருக்குத் தெரியும் ?..? பெரியவாள் சிந்தனையில் ஆழ்ந்தார்கள். அவர்கள் மனத்திரையில் மணிவாசகரும் ஆண்டாளும் காட்சி தந்தார்கள் போலும் ! அற்புதமான பாடல்கள், அறைக்குள்ளேயே கிடக்கின்றன, அரங்கத்துக்கு வந்தால் லோகோபகாரமாக இருக்குமே ?..

?ராமமூர்த்தி.. திருப்பாவை ? திருவெம்பாவை மகாநாடு நடத்தணும்; ஏற்பாடு செய் ..? அவ்வாறே ஏற்பாடு செய்யப்பட்டது. தமிழ்நாட்டின் முன்னணிப் பாடகர்கள், சொற்பொழிவாளர்கள் கலந்துகொண்டார்கள், ஏகப்பட்ட விளம்பரம் !

திருவெம்பாவை ? திருப்பள்ளிஎழுச்சி ? திருப்பாவை புத்தகங்கள் ஆயிரக்கணக்கில் அச்சிடப்பட்டு இலவசமாக விநியோகிக்கப்பட்டன. பாவைப் பாடல்களின் பண் நயமும் இலக்கிய நயமும் அறிஞர்களால் விளக்கி மொழியப்பட்டன. அவற்றின் பக்தி ரசத்தைச் சுவைத்து மயங்காதவரே இல்லை. பாவைப் பாடல் இசைத்தட்டுக்கள் அமோகமாக விற்பனை ஆயின. மார்கழி மாதம் வந்தது. பெரியவா, வெறும் உபதேசியார் அல்லர். உபதேசங்களை நத்திக் காட்டுபவர்கள். ?மார்கழி விடியற்காலையில் பாவைப் பாடல்களைப் பாட வேண்டும் ? என்று சொல்லிவிட்டால் மட்டும் போதுமா ? ?பிரகலாதன்? என்று ஒரு யானை ஸ்ரீமடத்தில் இருந்தது. ராமமூர்த்தியையும் கண்ணனையும் அதன் மேல் உட்கார்ந்துகொண்டு, கையில் அரிக்கேன் விளக்கு வெளிச்சத்தில், புத்தகத்தைப் பார்த்துப் பாவைப் பாடல்களைப் பாடிக்கொண்டு, திருவிடைமருதூர் மகாலிங்கசுவாமி கோவிலின் நான்கு வீதிகளிலும் பவனி வரச் செய்தார்கள்.

அப்புறம் கேட்பானேன் !

தமிழ்நாட்டின் மூலை முடுக்குகளிலெல்லாம் பாவை வெள்ளம் பாய்ந்தது; பக்திப் பயிர் வளர்ந்தது; நாயன்மார் ? ஆழ்வார் பக்கம் மக்கள் பார்வை திரும்பியது. தமிழ் பக்தி இலக்கியத்துக்கு அடித்தது யோகம் ! ஓரிரு ஆண்டுகள் சென்றன. ராமமூர்த்தியையும் கண்ணனையும் அழைத்தார்கள், பெரியவாள். ?ஞாபகம் இருக்கா ? ? திருவெம்பாவை யாருக்குத் தெரியும் ? அதை யாரும் பாடமாட்டா ? ன்னு சொன்னேளே ? ? இப்போ யாரவது பாடராளா ??? இது, பெரியவாள் கொடுத்த குட்டு இல்லை; அன்புடன் வழங்கிய ஷொட்டு !
திருப்பாவை ? திருவெம்பாவை (மகா பெரியவா) (sharing message) மார்கழி மாதம் பிறந்து விட்டால் போதும் ? தமிழ்நாட்டிலுள்ள எல்லாக் கோவில்களின் கோபுரங்களிலிருந்தும் இசைமாரி பொழிய ஆரம்பித்து விடும் ? விடியற்காலை நாலு மணியிலிருந்தே ! சிவன் கோவிலாக இருந்தால், திருவெம்பாவையும் திருபள்ளிஎழுச்சியும்; பெருமாள் கோவிலாக இருந்தால், திருப்பாவை. இது தவிர, திருப்பாவை ? திருவெம்பாவை மாநாடுகள்; வைணப் புலவர்கள் காலில் சக்கரத்தைக் கட்டிக்கொண்டு, ஊர் ஊராகச் சென்று சொற்பொழியாற்றுவார்கள். பள்ளிக்கூடங்களில், பாவப் பாடல் போட்டி ? பரிசுகள் ! இத்தனைக் கோலாகலம் எப்போது, யாரால் ஆரம்பிக்கப்பட்டது ? தலைக்காவேரியில்,நீர்த்திவலைகலாகக் தோன்றும் காவேரி, பறந்து விரிந்து வெள்ளமாகப் பெருகி அகண்டகாவேரியாக மாறிப் பிரமிக்க வைக்கிறது. அப்படித்தான், பாவைகள் பப்ளிக் ஆனதும், யாரோ சில சைவர்களும் வைணவர்களும் தனித்தனியாக முணுமுணுத்துக் கொண்டிருந்த பாவைகள், பார் எங்கும் பரவி, விசுவரூபம் எடுத்துவிட்டன. 1949, மகாசுவாமிகள் திருவிடமருதூரில் தங்கியிருந்தார்கள். மகாலிங்கஸ்வாமி கோவிலில், செட்டியார் வகுப்பைச் சேர்ந்த ஓர் அம்மையார் கையில் ஒரு புத்தகத்தை வைத்துக் கொண்டு நாள்தோறும் பாடி வருவதைப் பெரியவா கவனித்துவிட்டர்கள். ? அந்த ஆச்சி என்ன பாடிக்கொண்டிருக்கா தெரியுமோ ?? உடன் வந்துக்கொண்டிருந்த பக்தர் ராமமூர்த்தியையும் கைங்கர்யபரர் கண்ணனையும் பார்த்துக் கேட்டார்கள். பெரியவா. ஒரே குரலில், ?தெரியாது? என்று பதில் வந்தது. ?அந்த ஆச்சி அம்மாள், திருவெம்பாவை படிச்சிண்டிருக்கா ? நல்ல ராகத்தோட..? இரண்டு நிமிஷ நடை. ?இந்தப் பாடல்களை எல்லோரும் பாட வேண்டும் என்று பிரசாரம் செய்தால், யாரவது பாடுவார்களா ?.. ?ஒருவரும் பாட மாட்டார்கள். இது, யாருக்குத் தெரியும் ?..? பெரியவாள் சிந்தனையில் ஆழ்ந்தார்கள். அவர்கள் மனத்திரையில் மணிவாசகரும் ஆண்டாளும் காட்சி தந்தார்கள் போலும் ! அற்புதமான பாடல்கள், அறைக்குள்ளேயே கிடக்கின்றன, அரங்கத்துக்கு வந்தால் லோகோபகாரமாக இருக்குமே ?.. ?ராமமூர்த்தி.. திருப்பாவை ? திருவெம்பாவை மகாநாடு நடத்தணும்; ஏற்பாடு செய் ..? அவ்வாறே ஏற்பாடு செய்யப்பட்டது. தமிழ்நாட்டின் முன்னணிப் பாடகர்கள், சொற்பொழிவாளர்கள் கலந்துகொண்டார்கள், ஏகப்பட்ட விளம்பரம் ! திருவெம்பாவை ? திருப்பள்ளிஎழுச்சி ? திருப்பாவை புத்தகங்கள் ஆயிரக்கணக்கில் அச்சிடப்பட்டு இலவசமாக விநியோகிக்கப்பட்டன. பாவைப் பாடல்களின் பண் நயமும் இலக்கிய நயமும் அறிஞர்களால் விளக்கி மொழியப்பட்டன. அவற்றின் பக்தி ரசத்தைச் சுவைத்து மயங்காதவரே இல்லை. பாவைப் பாடல் இசைத்தட்டுக்கள் அமோகமாக விற்பனை ஆயின. மார்கழி மாதம் வந்தது. பெரியவா, வெறும் உபதேசியார் அல்லர். உபதேசங்களை நத்திக் காட்டுபவர்கள். ?மார்கழி விடியற்காலையில் பாவைப் பாடல்களைப் பாட வேண்டும் ? என்று சொல்லிவிட்டால் மட்டும் போதுமா ? ?பிரகலாதன்? என்று ஒரு யானை ஸ்ரீமடத்தில் இருந்தது. ராமமூர்த்தியையும் கண்ணனையும் அதன் மேல் உட்கார்ந்துகொண்டு, கையில் அரிக்கேன் விளக்கு வெளிச்சத்தில், புத்தகத்தைப் பார்த்துப் பாவைப் பாடல்களைப் பாடிக்கொண்டு, திருவிடைமருதூர் மகாலிங்கசுவாமி கோவிலின் நான்கு வீதிகளிலும் பவனி வரச் செய்தார்கள். அப்புறம் கேட்பானேன் ! தமிழ்நாட்டின் மூலை முடுக்குகளிலெல்லாம் பாவை வெள்ளம் பாய்ந்தது; பக்திப் பயிர் வளர்ந்தது; நாயன்மார் ? ஆழ்வார் பக்கம் மக்கள் பார்வை திரும்பியது. தமிழ் பக்தி இலக்கியத்துக்கு அடித்தது யோகம் ! ஓரிரு ஆண்டுகள் சென்றன. ராமமூர்த்தியையும் கண்ணனையும் அழைத்தார்கள், பெரியவாள். ?ஞாபகம் இருக்கா ? ? திருவெம்பாவை யாருக்குத் தெரியும் ? அதை யாரும் பாடமாட்டா ? ன்னு சொன்னேளே ? ? இப்போ யாரவது பாடராளா ??? இது, பெரியவாள் கொடுத்த குட்டு இல்லை; அன்புடன் வழங்கிய ஷொட்டு !

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« on: December 15, 2014, 07:08:42 AM »
Different Masters but same Message




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General Discussion / Re: Swami Sivananda's Teachings and Quotes
« on: December 08, 2014, 10:56:29 AM »
Swami Krishnananda on the Bhagavad Gita

The Bhagavadgita is, in one sense, the most important scripture because it touches all sides of life from the lowest to the highest. It touches the inner as well as the outer. It touches the social, the individual and the spiritual aspects at one and the same time. It is the only scripture which can satisfy every doubt in the world. In that sense, the Bhagavadgita in that sense is not a Hindu scripture but a world scripture. It does not speak of Hinduism, but of yoga proper, and we hear that yoga is not a religion but a science of life. Though it the Gita is written in Sanskrit and, therefore, it may be called an Indian scripture, it is really a universal scripture. The purpose of the gospel of the Bhagavadgita is to bring about a reconciliation between the visible and the invisible, man and God. Life is a conflict, and the purpose of the Gita is to solve this conflict. There are eighteen chapters of the Bhagavadgita, and each chapter is a resolution of a different type of conflict.

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: December 04, 2014, 12:52:07 PM »
Important appeal Jata Parayanam@Sri Avudayar Kovil for Periyava Aradhana
https://mahaperiyavaa.wordpress.com/2014/10/25/important-appeal-jata-parayanamsri-avudayar-kovil-for-periyava-aradhana-must-read/#comment-25128


Periyava had always chosen simple, unassuming people to do bigger tasks. There are so many in the list. I consider it as a honor to write about Shri Ravi (a.k.a ?Athirudram? Ravi). A school teacher in Srirangam, a bachelor, comes from a middle-class brahmin family like all of us, has been picked by periyava to do great things. His father retired from BHEL Trichy sometime back and settled in Srirangam. I had a great opportunity to meet Ravi and eat at his place too when I was in India last time!

It seems that several years back when Ravi was at a Dakshinamurthy temple, he saw a vision of Mahaperiyava in the sanctum. Ever since, he has been carrying out some of the impossible tasks for several years. With the blessings of Periyava, Ravi has been conducting Athirudrams in several of divya kshetrams of Mahaperiyava (in several adishtanams etc) for Jayanthi/Aradhana. So far he has completed 16 athirudrams and 11 jataparayanams!!!.  Each run into several lakhs and myriad of complexities in organizing a vedic function like this. With Periyava?s grace, he was able to do this with ease. All these events are blessed by HH Pudhu Periyava and Bala Periyava. As we all know, Pudhu Periyava, despite his health, traveled to almost all of the athirudrams/jataparayanam that Ravi had conducted and blessed the event.

This time he is doing a jataparayanam in Sri Avudayar kovil. Mahaperiyava had talked in length about the greatness of this kshetram. Read the article below to know more details.

Since last two major events, Ravi has been struggling to get enough sponsors. While he leaves it to Periyava to manage, it is our responsibility to shoulder Ravi in whatever way possible in such a noble task. Ravi made a request to see if we can some how support at least the ritwik sambhavanai (Rs 17,000/ritwik) ? we have a total of nearly 35 ritwiks. I sincerely request all of our readers to support Ravi AND attend this great event.

Shri Ravi can be contacted at 9443733573 / shankarakaingaryam@yahoo.com.

I pray our Periyava and Yogambaal sametha  Athmanathaswamy to successfully conduct this event.

Om Namah Shivaya!




Shri GuruhyoNamah:

SRI SRI SRI MAHAPERIYAVA ARADHANAI MAHOTSAVAM

RIG SAMHITHA HOMAM , RIGVEDA, KRISHNA YAJUR VEDA JATAPARAYANAM AND SAMA VEDA PARAYANAM

AT THIRUPERUNDARAI (AVUDAIYAR KOVIL) PUDUKOTTAI DSICTRICT, TAMILNADU.

FROM 8.12.2014 TO 18.12.2014 (MAHAPERIYAVA aradhanai day)


SREE CHANDRA SEKARENDRA SARASWATHY SWAMIGAL KAINGARYA TRUST  takes pleasure in announcing to all devotees, and aasthika friends about the series of JataaParayanam (ஜடை  பாராயணம்) being organized and performed at select temples of South India.

Samhitapathamatrenayatphalamprocyatebudhaih

Padutudvigunamvidyatkrametucacaturgunam

Varnakramesatagunamjatayantusahasrakam

The above Sanskrit verse highlights the importance and significance of Jataaparayanam in particular. JatayantuSahasrakam? ? (जटायान्थुसहस्रकम्) goes to extol that JataParayanam, whenever performed, is equivalent to Thousand Vedic sacred acts performed together. To help our community reap the innumerable benefits such a sacred act brings about, performance of ?Jataaparayanam? at select ancient temples of South India, is being organized. The chosen temples are both unique in their own historic significance and also share many common features amongst them; apart from being built on sprawling campuses, replete with four majestic tall raja Gopurams, it is also believed that these temples of yore have not had a regular consecration ceremony for a very long time owing to some reason or the other. It is for such reasons that performance of JataParayanam has been prescribed at such of these temples by the divine will of the Paramaachaarya.

Coinciding with the occasion of Sri Sri Sri Maha Periyavaa?s Aradanai celebrations this year, falling on 18thDec-2014 and with the divine blessings of Sri KanchiKamakotiPeetam, it is proposed to conduct

RIG SAMHITHA HOMAM, RIGVEDA, KRISHNAYAJURVEDA JATAA PARAYANAM, AND SAMAVEDA PARAYANAM, and also RAMAYANA, BHAVATHA, SHANKARABHASHYA PARAYANAM etc FROM  8TH DEC?2014 TO 18TH DEC?2014.

at the famous Shiva sthalam Thiruperunthurai (திருப்பெருந்துறை) -more popularly known as Avudayarkoil, located 14 km southeast of Aranthangi, in Pudukkottai district, Tamilnadu.

It is in this humble town that Saint Manickkavasakar was lived some 1200 years ago. In fact, though the presiding deities of the temple are known and worshiped as Lord Athmanathaswamy and Goddess Yogambaal, there are no idols for the deities; this depicts and emphasizes the formlessness (Aruvam ? அருவம் ) of the cosmic supremacy; nor there is Nandi or Navagrahams in this temple unlike most Shiva temples. The Utsavamurthy idol also that of Saint Manickkavasakar?s only, which receives all standard temple protocol respects as well as taken around the temple in ceremonial procession.

It may also be interesting to note that Sri Sri Sri MahaPeriyava has stayed in this kshetram, observing his Chathurmasyavratham? performing Chandramouleeswararpoojai under the same kurundai tree  in the year 1934 under which Saint Manickkavasakar sang his famous Siva Puranam, forming the first part of Thiruvaasakam.

On 12thDec-2014, on the occasion of Karthigai Magham ? birthstar of Saint Manickkavasakar- chanting of the entire Thiruvasagam, popularly referred to as ?Thiruvaasagam Mutrothal? (திருவாசகமுற்றோதுதல்) is planned. On this day as well as on 18.12.2014,  the day of Sri Sri Sri Mahaperiyava Aradhanai, there will be public Samaaradhanai bhojanam for all participating devotees.

The proposed JataaParayanam is being organized over eleven days, when nearly 35 rithwiks will perform and participate in the chanting and homam. Approximate expenses for the above Jataparayanam is estimated around Rs. 10 Lakhs. This would cover major expenses of dravyam for japa, parayana, homam, rithwik sambhavanai and bhojanam. Ritwik sabhavanai itself is estimated around 5.9 lakhs (Rs 17,000 / ritwik).

All are requested to benefit from the above divine endeavor by personally participating in these events; all are also requested to support the cause by liberally donating, contributing in cash and/or kind. The above fete is conducted essentially using voluntary donations and contributions of individual aasthikaas and not on any institutional sponsorship.

For further information please contact :

    Sree Chandra Sekarendra Saraswathi Swamigal Kaingarya Trust,
    DAF/4, Bharat plaza, Moolathoppu,
    Melur Road, Srirangam,
    Trichy -620006.
    Contact:  Sri. T.K.Vaidhyanathan, Ph: 0431-2434553 and Sri. Ravi. 9443733573

Details of the bank account for sending donations and contributions are as given;

    Name       :  Sree Chandra Sekarendra Saraswathi Swamigal Kaingarya Trust,
    SB a/c No:  115001000358340
    Bank        :  City Union Bank Srirangam Branch, Trichy 06
     IFSC no  : CIUB0000115. 

The donations to the above trust are eligible for tax rebate u/s 80 G of Income Tax act. PAN number of the trust (needed for claiming tax rebate benefit) is ? AAGTS4379A.

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: December 03, 2014, 11:28:40 AM »
Gita Jayanti ? Bhagavad Geeta Jayanthi
http://www.hindu-blog.com/2008/11/gita-jayanti-2008-bhagavad-geeta.html

Gita Jayanti, also referred as Bhagawad Geetha Jayanthi, is the day when the Bhagvad Gita was rendered by Sri Krishna to Arjuna in the Kurukshetra on the first day of the famous 18-day battle in the Mahabharata. In 2014, the date of Gita Jayanti is December 2. Gita Jayanthi falls on the Ekadashi day of Shukla Paksha (the bright half) of the Margashirsha month (November-December) in traditional Hindi calendar.

The greatest quality of Bhagavad Gita is that it prompts you to think, it prompts you to take decision, and it prompts you to look at life differently and refreshingly and all this without surrendering your individuality.


Bhagavad Gita adapts to the present and discusses an issue by rooting itself in the present. Every moment a confused Arjuna opens the Gita to take the advice of Krishna. And through the immortal Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna has been discussing and debating and finding solutions to the various problems faced by the confused Arjunas for centuries and will continue to do the same forever.

The day is observed all around the world with the reading of Bhagavad Gita, which is referred outside India as the Bible of the Hindus. Discussions and seminars are organized on the day.

All Hindu temples, especially those dedicated to BhagvanVishnu and Sri Krishna, conduct special pujas on the day.

The ideal way to celebrate Gita Jayanti is by reading at least a stanza from the Bhagavad Gita.

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: December 02, 2014, 09:15:09 PM »
Today i.e Tue 2 Dec 2014 beeing the Gita Jayanthi Day sharing an excellent talk by Swami Tejomayananda on "Practical application of the Bhagavad Geeta in Daily Life ".He has excellentlt summarised the essence of Gita in this talk .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rRokRTEMZ8&list=TLA4K4_mUUevk

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: December 01, 2014, 10:18:45 PM »

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: December 01, 2014, 12:40:41 PM »

Need to  follow the rites & symbols handed over by our forefathers
Source: Hindu Dharma - Universal way of Life (English version of selected discourses by Maha Periva)



I have stated again and again that the people must perform the rites handed down to them from forefathers, that they must adhere to the practices pertaining to the tradition to which they belong and they must wear the symbols appropriates to the same, like the holy ashes or Tiruman, the rudraksa, etc.

Some people hold the view that all that is needed is conduct and character, that conduct is a matter of the mind, that religious customs are but part of the external life. In truth, however, your outward actions and the symbols worn by you outwardly have an impact on the inner life. There is a relationship between bodily work and inner feelings. Let me illustrates this truth.

One day, unexpectedly, a man comes to know he was won prize in a lottery, say, one lakh rupees. His joy knows no bounds, but it makes its own impact on his body. He becomes so excited that his breathing itself stops for a moment and he faints. "A particular feeling creates a specific change in the process of breathing". From this practical observation yoga develops lessons in breathing to create healthy and noble feeling and urges. Often the outward appearance reflects the inner feelings.

When you are angry your eyes become red, your lips quiver. When you are sorrowful your eyes become moist and you shed tears. If you are happy you are agape, showing all your teeth. Thus there is a definite connection between the body and the mind, between the body and the inner feelings.

Based on this fact, the wise have devised yogic postures that are calculated to nurture particular Atmic qualities. Will soldiers be less valorous if they do not wear their uniforms? All over the world members of the defense services wear uniforms and it is claimed that they keep them fighting fit and inspire courage in them.

The symbols worn outside, the samskaras performed outwardly, are inwardly beneficial. If you think that it is all a disguise so it will be. You must resolve to wear the symbols in all sincerity and perform the rites too. Then they will truly cause purity within. Outward action helps you inwardly.

It perhaps natural that I should give importance to samskaras, to the custom of wearing symbols like the sacred ashes, rudraksa, etc. After all, I am the head of Matha and you will come to me only if I wear all these. You will give me money for the conduct of the Matha. So all these symbols that I wear serve a purpose in my case.

But your case is different. You have your own means of livelihood and you may be able to perform samsakaras even more sincerely than I do and make yourself pure by wearing the symbols of our religion.

Let us wear the signs that remind us of the Supreme Truth. Let us perform the rites that keep us away from evil. Let us be of good conduct and character and cleans our consciousness. And let us meditate on the Ultimate Reality, experience It inwardly, realize bliss.

Jaya Jaya Shankara, Hara Hara Shankara!



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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 29, 2014, 05:09:38 PM »
Hara Centering by Osh0 - worth trying when going to sleep at night

?In the night when you go to sleep, lie down on the bed and put both your hands two inches below the navel, and press a little. Then start breathing, deep breathing, and you will feel that center coming up and down with the breathing. Feel your whole energy there as if you are shrinking and shrinking and shrinking and you are just existing there as a small center, very concentrated energy. Just do this for ten, fifteen minutes, and then fall asleep.

?You can fall asleep doing it; that will be helpful. Then the whole night that centering persists. Again and again the unconscious goes and centers there. So the whole night without your knowing, you will be coming in many ways in deep contact with the center.

?In the morning, the moment that you feel that sleep has gone, don't open the eyes first. Again put your hands there, push a little, start breathing; again feel the hara. Do this for ten or fifteen minutes and then get up. Do this every night, every morning. Within three months you will start feeling centered.?

-Osho

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: November 29, 2014, 04:47:44 PM »
How to Control the Mind -Source: Hindu Dharma - Universal way of Life (English version of selected discourses by Maha Periyava)

What is the obstacle to one-pointed meditation? The answer is the unstill mind. All problems are caused by the mind, by the desires arising in it. It is not easy to control the mind and keep it away effectively from desire. If we ask the mind to think of an object, it seems to obey us for a moment, but soon it takes its own course, wandering off.

When I speak to you about meditation and tranquillity, for a moment your mind will perhaps become still and you will be happy. But in a trice it will go astray and the calm you experienced for a few seconds will give place to unquietness. If you bid your mouth to keep shut, it obeys you for a brief moment. Similarly, if you close your eyes asking them not to see anything, they shut themselves off from the outside world for some moments. But try as you might to tell your mind not to think of anything, it will not listen to you.

The mind must be kept under control. Thinking and non-thinking must be governed by your will. Only then can we claim that it is under our control, that we are masters of our own consciousness. Lunatics are usually referred to as people with no control over their
minds. In fact none of us have any control over the mind. A madman keeps blabbering. But what about us? We let the mind go freely to keep blabbering inwardly.

Do you know what it means to have mental control?
Suppose you are suffering from a severe pain. If you ask your mind not to feel the pain, it shall not feel it in obedience to you [that is you will not feel the pain].

Even if a tiger comes face to face with you and growls you will feel no fear if you ask your mind not to be afraid of the beast. Now we keep crying for no reason. If the mind is under control we will keep smiling even if there is cause for much sorrow. And under the gravest of provocations it will not be roused to anger and will remain calm.

First we must train our mind not to keep wandering. One way of doing it is to apply it to good activities. When oil falls in a steady flow, without spraying, it is called "tailadhara". The mind must be gathered together and made steady. It must be accustomed to think of noble and exalted objects like the Lord. Eventually, the very act of "thinking" will cease and we will dissolve in Isvara to become Isvara.

Yoga is controlling the mind in this manner.

Before we pass on, we must find a way to control the mind. Otherwise, we will be born again and we will be subject to the constant unquietness of the mind again. So we must use the opportunity of this birth itself to subdue the mind even while we are in the midst of so much that can rouse our desire or anger. A man who has succeeded in bridling his mind thus is called a "yukta" by the yogins. He is a "sukhin", one who truly
experiences bliss, so says Sri Krsna You must not turn away from yoga thinking that it is meant only for people like the sages. Who needs medicine? The sick. We suffer from manovyadhi, mental sickness. So we must take the medicine that cures it.

There are two different ways of mastering the mind- the first is outward (bahiranga) and the second is inward(antaranga). We must have recourse to both. The Matha has a cartman and a cook. Their work is outward in nature. Then there are those who prepare the wicks of the lamps, gather flowers for the puja - they are "inward" workers. Both types are needed for the functioning of the Matha. By employing both the outward and
inward means, the mind must first be applied to good things one pointedly and eventually lead to a state in which it does not think of anything at all.

The outward means consists, for example, of sandhyavandana, sacrifices, charity and so on. The best inward means is meditation.


There are five inward (antaranga) means to aid meditation. They are ahimsa (nonviolence), satya (truthfulness), asteyam (non-stealing), sauca (cleanliness) and indriya-nigraha [subduing the senses, if not obliterating them].

To practise ahimsa is to imbue the mind with love for all and not even think of harming others. Asteyam means not coveting other people's goods.

For satya, or truthfulness, to be complete one's entire being, including body, mind and speech, must be involved in its practice. Sauca is hygiene, observing cleanliness by bathing, maintaining ritual purity, etc. Indriyanigraha implies limits placed on sensual enjoyment. "The eyes must not see certain things, the ears must not hear certain things and the mouth must not eat certain things"-restrictions with regard to what you can see, listen to, eat and do with your body.

The body is meant for sadhana, for Atmic discipline. The senses must be "fed" only to the extent necessary to keep the body alive. These five dharmas are to be practiced by all Hindus without any distinction of caste or community.


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