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From: ~~~ Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 161.- Mind your business

An elderly man from Ananthapur,
after hearing the Vedas recited in the hall,
stood up and asked:

?It is said that the non-Brahmins
should not hear the recital of the Vedas.?

Sri Ramana Maharshi:

"Mind your business.
Take care of what you came here for.
Why do you waste your time in these matters?

?I heard the recital,? you say.
?Who is that ?I??
Without knowing the ?I? you are using the word.
If its significance be known there will be no doubt.
Find the ?I? first and you may afterwards speak of other matters.?

Continuing, Sri Bhagavan said:

?The smritis say something.
They are not appropriate now.
I will reform the world, rewrite the smritis.?

Saying so,
people are cutting capers in the world from time immemorial.
Such reformers have come and gone;
but the ancient smritis still stand.
Why waste time over such matters?

Let each one mind his business.
All will be well.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: April 27, 2016, 11:00:59 PM »
Gita Verses-Nimirndhu Nil ( Tamil Movie )

The song starts with a mediocre intro and turns into a rhythmic and strong one once the versere are up.  So.. Here goes the lyrics and meaning of the verses of this song from Shrimad Bhagavad Gita.

The song was composed with verses 16, 18, 27, 28 and 37 of Chapter 2 "Sankhya yoga" (a) "The eternal reality of the Soul's immortality".  These verses, that convey very deep meaning, are some of the words of advice from Shri Krishna to convince Arjuna into the inevitable war (which Arjuna laments as his unfortunate situation) to fight against Arjuna's (evil) relatives and teachers.

BHAGAVATH GITA  -  CHAPTER 2  - Sankhya yoga

 VERSE : 16 
Meaning: The unreal (the non-existent/the material body) has no duration (endurance/ everlastingness);   And the real (eternal soul) has no cessation ( end / changing quality ).  These conclusions (of both of the two) have indeed been observed by seers of Truth.

VERSE : 18 
All these material bodies (of kurukshetra warriors) are sure to come to an end; the embodied soul is eternal in existence, immeasurable and indestructible.  Therefore, fight, (Arjuna / O descendant of) Bharata.

VERSE : 27 

For one who has taken birth, death is certain; and for one who is dead, birth is certain.  Therefore you should not lament for your inevitable duty.

VERSE : 28 
All that are created are non-manifest in the beginning; (they become) manifest in middle; (and they become) non-manifest again when vanquished. So, what is the need for lamentation?

VERSE : 37 
Slain, you will win a place in heaven; Victorious, you will enjoy the earth.  Therefore, O son of Kunthi, get up and fight, for victory is certain.

General Discussion / Re: Swami Sivananda's Teachings and Quotes
« on: April 27, 2016, 10:12:44 AM »
Benefits of Kirtan

When you chant 'Hare Rama' or 'Gopala Gopala,' don't just join in with the crowd. These words can slowly, slowly transfer emotion into devotion. It is not just in a day or two, but gradually it will wean your mind away from these external objects... It is a slow process and the best method is kirtan. Other disciplines are there -- Jnana Yoga discipline, Raja Yoga discipline... But even if you are a Raja Yogi or a Jnana Yogi, kirtan is the most important thing to conquer your mind. Do not sing with your mouth; sing from your heart. Dissociate from everything and associate with the Supreme Being."
-Swami Vishnudevananda
Note : Swami Vishnu devananda is one of the senior most disciples of Swami Sivananda who found the SIVANANDA YOGA VEDATNTA CENTRES WORLD WIDE and author of the best sellers "A Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga " , "Meditation & MAntras " . I received all my practical training in Yoga through this Organization and so consider him as my Yoga Guru .

General Discussion / Re: Swami Sivananda's Teachings and Quotes
« on: April 27, 2016, 10:06:26 AM »
Dear Sri Nagaraj

Thanks for sharing the note of Sri Annamalai Swami regarding likita Japa of "I AM NOT THE BODY , I AM NOT THE MIND/THOUGHTS" .  In Sri Nisargadatta tradition also a similar mantra is given as initiation for those who need and the devotees are asked to do japa of the same for many years so that subtle teachings of ATMA JNANA slowly sinks in . Also in Sandhyavandanam we repeat the mantra "ASAVADITYO BRAHMAN , BRAHMAIVAHAM ASMI "  which also reflects the same only that in our hurry to complete the sandhya vandanam it becomes a mechanical act and we loose the significance of the same .
BTW Sri Annamalais Swami before coming to Bhagavan met Kanchi Mhaswamigal who asked him to chant /write the Mantra SIVAYA NAMAH and Annamalai Swami wrote it a lakh  times and that sadhana helped him to come to Bhagavan and he ended up staying in Thiruvanamalai . Mental Japa ,Likita Japa has  its own power only that we need to do it sincerely with feeling and bhava and not rush in to complete a quota .

In this regard I wish to share an interesting incident with regarding to writing Sri Rama Nama by my mother and that incident happened during our recent visit to Rishikesh . Since you talked about Ramayana in your earlier post I was reminded of that incident and will share here later .

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: April 25, 2016, 02:27:14 PM »

Here is a link to some of the Spiritual Journals/Magazines that are available for free download and reading online . Members who have links to other spiritual magazines kindly share the same .

Shri Ravi had given a linked to the Vision magazine published by Ananada Ashram ( Papa Ramdas ) and I am reproducing the same here :

The following is a link to the online magazine published by Divine Life Society ( Swami Sivananda Ashram , Rishikesh )

The following is a link to the online magazine  KALYAN-KALPATARU published by Gita Pres Gorakhpur

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: April 25, 2016, 12:56:32 PM »

I am sharing my thoughts with regard to the Mountain Path comments that were shared in Anil's thread and since I do not want that thread to be diverted to discussing the issue of Mountain Path I am sharing my comments here .

Sri Ravi has given his views and there is merit in the same and so the same with regard to Anil's views . I am not a great subscriber of spiritual journals ( except for Mountain Path ) and rest I read mostly online ( most ashrams publish their journals online for free or for a very small token amount ) and I really cant comment on the quality of the articles as in spiritual matters each individual will be seeking something unique  and one article might be dry for someone but the same will be inspiring and useful for another . With regard to Mountain Path for me I always eagerly look  out for the articles related "How I came to Bhagavan / Devotees Experiences " and that article alone is enough for me as far as Mountain Path is concerned and rest I just go through it and if I find anything interesting I go through it in depth otherwise I skip it but there are at times when I go through some old issues of Mountain Path to find some articles that I missed previously very interesting . The same with other spiritual magazines .

Dear Anil

I very must resonate with your views with regard to Mountain Path . I also eagerly look forward to it when it comes from Sri Ramana Ashram and treat it as a prasad and have maintained almost all the bask issues . True ,not all the articles in each issue have the same quality but I am happy even if I find one article interesting in an issue  . 

Today i.e Mon 25 April 2016 is Sankatahara Chaturthi - an auspicious day dedicated to Lord Ganesha

Source :

Sankatahara Chaturthi is an auspicious day dedicated to Lord Ganesha. It is celebrated every month [lunar], on the fourth day of the waning phase of the moon [Krishna Paksham]. It is the fourth day after the full moon day.

If the chaturthi falls on a tuesday, it is considered even more auspicious.

Fasting on Sankatahara Chaturthi

Fasting on Sankatahara Chaturthi is considered auspicious and beneficial. It is believed that if we take up this vratam and continue it for one year, fasting on all the Sankatahara Chaturthi days, culminating the vratam by performing the "Maha Ganapathi Homam", all difficult tasks in life will be completed and all obstacles removed from our life.

Even though any day could be a good day to pray to Lord Ganesha, sankatahara chaturthi is supposed to be the best day for the sankatahara chaturthi vratham. Sankatahara literally means breaking or removing of sorrow. So, it is believed that fasting on sankatahara chaturthi will bring a speedy end to your sorrows. Also, it is believed that if one looks at the moon on a waxing phase moon on a chathurti, he will fall from grace and that performing the chaturthi vratham will help him regain his status. It is also believed that performing the vratham every month on the chaturthi day will bring all happiness and wealth ani the family and remove all obstacles. There are various other good things attributed to the chaturthi vratham or fasting, such as getting relief from long standing sickness, improvement in education, sharp intelligence, long life, relief from sani dosha and so on. Every month puja on the Sankatahara Chaturthi is performed and Lord Ganesha is worshipped under different forms every month. On Sankatahara Chaturthi, Lord Ganesha blesses his devotees with his presence on Earth at the time of the celebrations.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: April 24, 2016, 11:34:07 AM »

Saw this on a Shridi Sai FB Page

The statue and tomb of Sri Sai Baba how it came  :-

The statue, which has become such a famous and well-loved image of Baba, was not installed until 1954, thirty-six years after his mahasamadhi, and there is an intriguing story behind it. Some white marble arrived from Italy at the Bombay docks, but nobody seemed to know anything about it who it was for, or why it had come. In the absence of a claimant, the dockyard auctioned it and the purchaser offered it to the Shirdi Sansthan (temple authorities). Impressed by the quality of the marble, they wanted to use it for an idol of Baba and gave the commission to a sculpture from Bombay, Balaji Vasant Talim. However, the latter had only one black and white photo of Baba as his model, and was struggling to get the likeness. One night Baba came to him in a dream, remarked on his difficulties and then showed him his face from various angles, encouraging Talim to study it thoroughly and remember it well. This gave Talim the filip he needed and after that the work flowed easily and the result exceeded all expectations.

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