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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 17, 2016, 01:29:49 PM »

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 17, 2016, 09:02:35 AM »
Buddhist Quote

?The Buddha is not going to project you to Buddhahood, as if throwing a stone. He is not going to purify you, as if washing a dirty cloth, nor is he going to cure you of ignorance, like a doctor administering medicine to a passive patient.
Having attained full enlightenment himself, he is showing you the path, and it is up to you to follow it or not. It is up to you now to practice these teachings and experience their results.?
~ H.H. Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 17, 2016, 08:39:49 AM »

A discourser in Chennai has listed ten types of meritorious
acts, vide the Hindu.

1. Patience
2. Honesty in mind, word and body.
3. Fear of sinning.
4. A great liking for virtue.
5. Control of the outgoing mind.
6. Generosity to the extent one can afford.
7. Siva archanai, i.e. telling Siva's names in front of Siva Lingam
    or a photograph, with flowers, fruits and water and leaves.
8.  Penance to control the mind-body consciousness.
9.  Meditation on Siva's form or simply on Effulgence.
10.Desisting from harming anyone in life.

Arunachala Siva.

Thanks Subramaniam Sir for sharing this useful info .

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 16, 2016, 01:29:47 PM »

Don?t allocate periods of time to meditate ?I am? with closed eyes. Do it throughout the day while doing all other activities.

If you want to go beyond the body and mind, abide in the ?I am? only and understand that all that is ?I am? plus is false.

Abidance or meditation in the ?I am? is a process by which attention is kept focused on the substratum instead of the names and forms that are habitually imposed on it.

When you abide in the ?I am? ignorance vanishes. Ignorance is not knowing the ?I am? in its absolute purity.




Q: Is the analytic process merely intellectual or does feeling predominate?

M: The latter. The personal ?I? is a reflection of the real Self in the mind.

Ask yourself the question, 'Who am I?'. The body and its functions are not 'I'. Enquire further. The senses and their functions are not 'I'.

Going deeper, the mind and its functions are not 'I'.

The next step is the question, 'From where do these thoughts arise??

Thoughts are spontaneous, superficial or analytical. Who is aware of them? Their existence and operations become evident to the individual.

Analysis leads to the conclusion that individuality operates as awareness of the existence of thoughts. This is ego. Enquire further, 'Who is this ?I?? and where does it come from?' Do sleep analysis.

'I? am' underlies the three states ? sleep, waking and dreaming.
After discarding all that is not-Self, we find the residue ? the Self Absolute.

Both world and ego are objective and must be eliminated in the analysis. Eliminating the unreal the Real survives. To accomplish this eliminate the mind, which is the creator of the dualistic idea and of ego. Mind is one form of life ?manifestation. The individual cannot exist without the Self, but the Self can exist without the individual.

Q: Is this method quicker than developing qualities thought to be necessary for salvation?

M: All bad qualities are tied up in the ego. When the ego is gone, realization is self-evident.

p. 91

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 07, 2016, 04:17:19 PM »
Jaya Jaya Shankara Hara Hara Shankara ? Where does ?SIVA? Naamaa reside in Vedas? What is its position? The greatest master explains about it and the Greatness of the Two letter word ?SIVA?. A small chapter but very informative. Let?s chant as much ?SIVA? naama as we can that has no restrictions as other manthras. Thanks to our Sathsangam volunteer team member for the translation (wish to remain anonymous). Siva Siva

வேதத்தில் சிவநாமத்தின் ஸ்தானம்

விலையுயர்ந்த ரத்னமொன்று நம்மிடமிருந்தால் வீட்டிலே எங்கே வைப்போம்? வாசல் புற ரூமில் வைப்போமா? தோட்டத்தைச் சேர உள்ள ரூமில் வைப்போமா? ரொம்பவும் காபந்தாக மத்தியில் இருக்கிற ரூமில் இரும்புப் பெட்டியில்தான் வைப்போம். அப்படியே வேதத்தில் ஜீவரத்னமான ?சிவ? நாமத்தை ரொம்பவும் ஜாக்ரதைப்படுத்தி வைத்திருக்கிறது. நாலில் மத்தி இரண்டாவது. நாலு வேதங்களில் இரண்டாவது யஜுஸ். அதர்வவேதத்தைச் சேர்க்காமல் ரிக், யஜுஸ், ஸாமம் என்ற மூன்றை மட்டும் ?த்ரயீ? என்பதுண்டு. அப்போதும் ரிக்குக்கும் ஸாமத்துக்கும் நடுவில் வருவது யஜுஸே. யஜுஸிலேயே சுக்ல யஜுஸ், க்ருஷ்ண யஜுஸ், என்று இரண்டு இருப்பதால் நாலு வேதத்தை நாலு வேதத்தை ஐந்து என்று ஆக்கினாலும் ரிக், சுக்ல யஜுஸ், க்ருஷ்ண யஜுஸ், ஸாமம், அதர்வம் என்ற ஐந்தில் நட்ட நடுவாக வருவது மூன்றாவதான க்ருஷ்ண யஜுஸ்தான் இந்த க்ருஷ்ண யஜுர் வேதத்தில் மத்ய பாகம் அதன் நாலாவது காண்டம். அந்தக் காண்டத்தின் மத்யம் ஐந்தாவது ப்ரச்னம். இதிலேதான் நடுவில் ஸ்ரீ ருத்ர ஸூக்தம் எனப்படுவதில் நடுநாயகமாக பஞ்சாக்ஷரம் வருகிறது. அந்த பஞ்சாக்ஷரத்துக்கும் மையமாக ?சிவ? என்ற த்வயக்ஷரம் இருக்கிறது.

உடம்பை மெய் என்கிறோம். அதிலே இருக்கிற பரமாத்மாவை மெய்ப்பொருள் என்பார்கள். ஸத்வஸ்து என்று வேதாந்தத்தில் சொல்வதைத் திருவள்ளுவர் அப்படியே தமிழில் ?மெய்ப்பொருள்? என்கிறார். வேதங்களையெல்லாம் ஒரு சரீரமாக ? மெய்யாக ? வைத்துக் கொண்டால் அதில் உயிராக, மெய்ப்பொருளாக இருப்பது ?சிவ? நாமா. உயிர் என்னும் பரமாத்மா இருக்கும் ஸ்தானம் ஹ்ருதயம் என்றால், அந்த ஹ்ருதயம் சரீர மத்தியில்தான் இருக்கிறது. இதைத்தான் ஞானஸம்பந்தரும் சொல்கிறார்.

வேத நான்கினும் மெய்ப்பொருளாவது
நாத(ன்) நாமம் நமச்சிவாயவே

வீட்டுக்கு நடுவே காபந்தாக இருக்கும் ரத்னம் போல வேத சரீரத்தின் நடுவே அதன் ஜீவரத்னமாக உயிர் கொடுத்துக்கொண்டு ?சிவ? நாமாவாகவே பரமாத்மா இருக்கிறார். இந்த அபிப்ராயத்தையே அப்பைய தீக்ஷிதர் ப்ரஹ்ம தர்க்க ஸத்வத்தில் (ஸ்லோ. 27) ?யஜ்-ஜீவ ரத்நம் அகிலாகம லாலநீயம்? என்கிறார்.

The Position of ?Siva? Naama in Vedhaas ? By Maha Periyava

If we have a precious gem, where would we store it in the house? Will we keep it in a room facing the entrance door? Will we keep it in a room near to the garden in the backyard? We will try to keep it safely inside an iron box in an inner room at the center or the middle. Similar to this, the Vedhaas have safeguarded the gem of our lives, ?Siva? Name. In 4, middle is considered to be 2. In the 4 Vedhaas, the second one is ?Yajus? (Yajurvedhaa). Without including the ?Atharvavedhaa?, ?Rig?, ?Yajus? and ?Saamam? are together called as ?Thrayee?. Even then, ?Yajus? comes in between ?Rig? and ?Saamam?. ?Yajus? is divided into two ? ?Sukla Yajus? and ?Krishna Yajus?. Hence, if we 4 Vedhaas into 5, in ?Rig?, ?Sukla Yajus?, ?Krishna Yajus?, ?Saamam?, ?Atharvam?, Krishna Yajus is in the middle. In the Krishna Yajus, the 4th chapter (Kaandam) is in the middle. This, in turn, has the fifth ?Prasna? in the middle. In the middle of this fifth ?Prasna? is ?Sri Rudra Suktham? which has ?Nama Sivaaya? or ?Panchaaksharam? in the middle. In the ?Panchaaksharam*?, the name ?Siva?, which is the ?Dwayaksharam**?, is at the center and most important position amidst the complete Vedhic Hymns in praise and prayer of Lord Siva in ?Sri Rudra Suktham?.

According to us, our body is true. The ?Paramaatmaa? or the ?Divine Soul? inside us is said to be the ?True Meaning? or ?True thing? (?Meiporul?). What is called as ?Sathvasthu? in Vedhaanthaa is called as ?Meiporul? by Thiruvalluvar in Tamil. If we consider Vedhaas as the body that is true, the True meaning or the ?MeiPorul? lies in the ?Siva? name. If the soul or the ?Paramaatmaa? is positioned at the heart in a body, the heart lies in the center of the body. The same is stated by Thiru Gnyaanasambandhar.

Vedha Naanginum Meiporulaavadhu
Naadhan Naamam NamaSivaayave

Just like how the precious gem (jewel) is safeguarded in the middle or center of the house, the precious life giving gem, ?Siva? Name is present in the center of the body as ?the Great Soul? or ?Paramaatma?. The same is being stated by Sri Appayya Dikshithar in ?Brahma Dharga Sathvam? (Sloka 27): Yath-Jeeva Rathnam Akilagama Laalaneeyam.

* ? Panchaaksharam is represented by the 5 sanskrit letters ?Na, Ma, Si, Va, Ya?
** ? Dwayaksharam is represented by the 2 sanskrit letters ?Si,Va?

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 07, 2016, 04:15:05 PM »
It will indeed be very poor of us to be born in Bharatha Desam and cannot fast on important days like Vaikunta Ekadasi, Maha Sivaraathiri, Sri Rama Navami, Gokulashtami, etc. Even if our stomach is empty we need to ensure our mind is full. Bhagawan should give us the strength (sankalpam) to achieve this. ? Pujya Sri Kanchi Maha Periyava

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 07, 2016, 04:13:02 PM »
வைகுண்ட ஏகாதசி, மஹா சிவராத்ரி, கோகுலாஷ்டமி, ராமநவமி முதலிய விசேஷ நாட்களில் கூட நாம் வாயைக் கட்டாமல், வயிற்றைச் கட்டாமலிருந்தால் அது இந்த தேசத்தில் பிறந்த நமக்கு ரொம்பக் குறைவாகும். வயிறு குறைந்தாலும் மனஸ் நிறையும்படிப் பண்ணிக் கொள்வதே நமக்கு நிறைவு. அப்படிப் பண்ணிக் கொள்வதற்கான ஸங்கல்ப பலத்தை பகவான் எல்லாருக்கும் அநுக்ரஹிக்க வேண்டும். ? ஜகத்குரு ஸ்ரீசந்திரசேகரேந்திர சரஸ்வதி ஸ்வாமிகளின் அருள்மொழிகள்

General Discussion / Re: Maha Sivratri - 7th March 2016.
« on: March 07, 2016, 04:05:45 PM »
A few years back I had sent an email to David Godman asking him how Shivrathri was celebrated during Bhagavan Ramana's times and this is the reply he sent :

I don't know how Sivaratri was celebrated in Bhagavan's day. There are very few mentions of the day, so I am assuming that there were few extra events beyond the usual scheduled ones. There is, of course, the famous occasion in 1923 when Bhagavan was asked to speak about Dakshinamurti's silent teachings on a Sivaratri evening. He responded by keeping quiet, and by keeping everyone's mind completely silent and sleep-free all night. I think there were five people present that night, including Ramaswami Pillai. I remember talking to him about this Sivaratri blessing in the 1980s, and he was still moved by this expression of Bhagavan's power and grace some sixty years after it manifested. - David Godman

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