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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: July 17, 2016, 12:03:15 AM »
A DIRECT POINTING

Q: I am tired of all the ways and means and skills and tricks, of all these mental acrobatics. Is there a way to perceive reality directly and immediately?

M: Stop making use of your mind and see what happens.
Do this one thing thoroughly.
That is all.

- Nisargadatta Maharaj, I AM THAT

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: July 16, 2016, 03:03:51 PM »

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General Discussion / Re: Swami Sivananda's Teachings and Quotes
« on: July 14, 2016, 08:16:54 PM »
Today i.e Thu 14 July is the Maha Samadhi day of Swami Sivananda who was one of Modern India's greatest spiritual sage and coincidentally 14 July is also the day I started my Yoga journey in the late 90s and ever thankful to my Yoga Guru Swami Sivananda for putting me on this path and guiding me through his grace .On this day I want to share the experience of Former President of India Dr.Abdul Kalam when he met Swami Sivananda in Rishikesh in 1958 utterly dejected because he was not selected for the Airforce .How Swami Sivananda consoled him and gave him hope and told him to defeat his defeatist tendency is mentioned here by Dr.Kalam himself  and this message is not just to Dr.Kalam but to all of us .

The Monk Who Defeated Kalam's Defeatist Tendency
http://www.newindianexpress.com/states/tamil_nadu/The-Monk-Who-Defeated-Kalams-Defeatist-Tendency/2015/07/28/article2944447.ece

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General Discussion / Re: Swami Sivananda's Teachings and Quotes
« on: July 11, 2016, 10:28:28 PM »

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: July 11, 2016, 10:24:13 PM »
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Even in Sri Ramanasramam,the Veda chanting is done by 'Brahmin' boys only .Bhagavan has also maintained that while study of the vedas can be done by one and all,the chanting has to be done by 'Brahmins' only.

True and I understand that Bhagavn allowed all to listen to the Vedas but maintained the tradition of Chanting to be done only by Vedic Brahmins and did not entertain any debates on this issue and when any such issues came up he asked people "to mind their own business " and "focus on what they came here for in the first instance " .

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: July 11, 2016, 03:06:45 PM »
Dear Sri Ravi

It is not just with Organ donation . Many of Kanchi Sri Mahaswamigal's views on certain matters( like varna dharma , women's education , widow remarriage , entry of dalits in to the temple etc etc )  is vastly different from the way normal society understand and functions . Kanchi Mahaswamigal strictly follows the "sashtras" as the guiding principle but the country is government by "constitution " and only what is 'scientfically proven" is taken as valid and rest are either discarded either as superstition or an outdated thought .
I really do not know which is correct here .For example even now in Shankara Mutts only Brahmins are taken for study of Vedas in their Veda Patashala . Few years back in one Yoga Retreat at Sivananda Ashram , a lady told that her house was closer to a Veda Patashala in Kumbakkonam but she was not a Brahmin and daily they used to hear the Vedic Chants and her son was intersted in studying Vedas but was refused entry there . She told that her son would follow all the rules of the Organization as the other Brahmin kids but yet they refused .She asked me why is this so ? I told I have no answer to this .As a Secular Indian I feel if one is intersted in studying a subject and willing to undergo all the rules of that Organization and has the basic competance to study that subject then he/she must be given an opportunity to study the same and caste /sex must not come in to the picture .But the Sashtras Prohibit women as well as non Brahmins from studying Vedas in Veda Patashala ( Arya Samaj People refute this but Kanchi Mahaswmigal's view is different ) and all the Shankaracharya Mutts follow this rule strictly . Arya Samaj , Sivananda , Ramakrishna , Chinmaya ,Dayananda Organizations have broken this rule and have allowed Women and Non Brahmins and even foreigners  to study the scriptures provided they have the samskaras for the same and willing to follow the rules . I have no answer why the various Shankaracharya Mutss ( Kanchi , Sringeri etc ) are not open to this . Some say ( especially the athesits , rationalists ) that this structure is basically kept intact to keep the Brahmins at the Top and maintain their supreme command over others while the tradional people say that not all answers are possible through rational reasoing and when Vedas say something we need to strictly follow that without questioning the same .I do not know what is correct here .BTW I have deepest respect for Kanchi Mahaswmigal and  I know that his vision is not as narrow as claimed by the athesits , rationalists ( i.e promoting Brahmanical supremacy and orthodoxy  ) and that he had love and compassion for all and had demonstarted that in his own life .

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General topics / Re: Mathru Sri Sarada
« on: July 11, 2016, 10:16:22 AM »
Hi all!  I was wondering if anyone knows of any information about Saradamma that isn't already in "No Mind I Am The Self", her website, or the old post about her in this forum.  I've been meditating on her name and form for a while now, but I feel as though I need to know more about her in order to increase my love.  I plan on visiting her and Lakshmana Swamy's residence in Tiruvanamalai this December.

Dear Orihh

Matru Sarada , Sri Lakshmana  Swamy are very reclusive people and do not mix with outsiders very much and apart from their public darshans , there is very little opportunity to meet them .But the book "No Mind I am the Self"  is more than self sufficient for you to understand their teachings and follow it up . I had attended a  couple of Public Darshans of Sri Lakshmana Swamy and in his brief talk it has the same content that was given in the book "No Mind ,I am the Self " .So keep reading that book again and again and continue with your Japa .

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