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Has Akshara Mana Malai been rendered in Sanskrit either by Bhagwan or by any of his close disciples ?

Dear Tushnim, Anil, Friends,

While i may have expressed my views, with some quotes of Sri Bhagavan, i only see this going endlessly. i discern that unless this questioning mind and answering mind subsides, nothing is fruitful no matter how much grandeur the exchanges may bring forth. Therefore, I withdraw myself from this current discussion.


General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 05, 2012, 01:16:50 PM »
Among the contributory factors of liberation, devotion stands supreme, and it is the search for one's own true nature that is meant by devotion. - Adi Shankara

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 04, 2012, 02:26:27 PM »
For those who have withdrawn their intellect from external objects, who have won the grace of a realised Guru and whose mind has attained serenity, Self-realisation occurs without delay.- Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 04, 2012, 12:50:46 PM »
Thanks Mr.Nagaraj for posting this piece on Dharma .I have copied - pasted it on the other thread for discussion on the same as Dharma is a too complicated Topic and there is lot of confusion on what is Dharma today . So members share the views on the same in the Other thread and I have given an intro to that discussion .
Om Peace .

General topics / Re: Discussion on the Quotes of Shankaracharya's
« on: October 04, 2012, 12:42:07 PM »
Mr.Nagaraj has posted about Dharma in the other thread of Quotes of Sri Shankaracharya and I felt it is worth discussing it here as there is lot of confusion with regard to what is Dharma in day to day life . While there is no conflict with regard to "samanya dharma" i.e Universal Dharma i.e Ahimsa , Satya , Asteya etc there is lot of confusion with regard to"Vishesha Dharma" i.e Dharma  with regard to one's caste ,culture, tradition  etc  especially in the Modern Urban life style where most of our energy goes out in day to day work , frequent traveling to other places due to work compulsions , getting posted outside ones native place either in India or Abroad that disturbs our regular practices etc . Plus people are confused whether these are still relevant these days but at the same time are unable to give it up fearing that some wrong things will happen . Also I know of many people in Corporate High level decision making who feel they are part of some Adharmic practices of the Organization even without their own intent and confused what to do . Should their loyalty be to their Organization or to their own Original Dharma ?
How do we resolve these ? Members share their inputs .

Dharmo Rakshathi Rakshithaha

"If we protect Dharma, Dharma will protect us"

Protection of Dharma does not mean mere adoration of Dharma. It is the effort of putting the principles of Dharma into practice. Every one of us desires supreme happiness not only in this birth but also in subsequent births or Janmas. No one will wish to have sufferings or sorrow in any birth.

"Dharma grants happiness and peace. Adharma makes life miserable with agony and sorrow," says our Sastra.

What is the true meaning or significance of Dharma?

Dharma means: Helping the poor and the needy. Dharma means: Worshipping and obeying God. Dharma means: To be in the company of persons endowed with purity and virtues. Dharma means: Listening and understanding matters that reflect divine values and virtues. Dharma teaches us to avoid avarice and to eschew the desire to possess others' wealth. Dharma is Ahimsa. It is merciful nature not to harm anyone through word, deed or mind at any time. Humanity should imbibe and always remember this virtue: Just like me, others too feel joy and sorrow. If someone abuses or hurts me, it pains. It is in the same way the other person will also suffer, if I abuse him. Therefore what I do not wish to happen to me, should not happen to others also.

These values and virtues are universal.

"Athmanah prathikoolani pareshaam na samaachareth"

are the words of guidance from Sastras on these virtues.

"Don't do to others what is harmful to you" is the meaning of the above verse.

Violence is a great sin. Non-violence is the path of Dharma. If we wish to live in peace, happiness and harmony, we should live with love and faith.

Peace will not be there, where lust and anger dwells. Only when we drop our lust and anger, we would be able to live with true happiness and in peace.

We are all entering into a New Century and into a Millennium. The priority of our life should be to practice Dharma.

For ages, our sacred country India, has been in the task of teaching and preaching the message of peace or shanti to the world.

We should continue the task, with more commitment in the New Century spreading the message of Love, Peace and Harmony throughout the world.

We require God's grace in all our thoughts and deeds. Therefore we must pray to God with devotion, whenever we start any new activity.

Our Ego and selfishness should be totally dropped, as Ego is the root cause of our evil deeds. Hence everyone should function totally devoid of Ego or "Ahankara".

All the wisdom, capabilities and power that we possess are mercifully granted to us by God. Let us take an Oath "to use all our wisdom, capabilities and power in the service of God and in the service of humanity"

I bless one and all to follow Dharma and to prosper in life and to live with peace, progress, prosperity and happiness.

(Bharati Theertha Swamigal)

General topics / Re: Vishnu Sahasranamam and Self Enquiry
« on: October 03, 2012, 07:46:37 PM »
Subramaniam Sir

I have heard of the story and it is true and some say in fact Paramacharya wanted to show people the importance of Vishu Sahasranama that he crated a sort of leela to demonstrate its powers and I believe that the Scholars who chanted were headed by Sri Anantarama Dikshitar ( I am not sure about this ) .
Also to make Vishnu Sahasranama Popular , Paramachraya asked MS Subbulakshmi to record Venkatesa Suprabatham , Vishnu Sahasranamam , Bhaja Govindam and  MS Subbulakshmi took that work in full seriousness and though she had a very divine voice yet she took  training of chanting of Vishnu Sahasranama from  Sanskrit Scholars before she formally recorded and that is why they are still popular the world over .

General topics / Re: Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi
« on: October 03, 2012, 02:02:44 PM »
I would like learn, can somebody help me identify a Jnani? Can somebody be able to tell me the nature of a Jnani? Who is Ajnani, and who is a Jnani?

Not me definitely  :)
There was a time I was doing all these investigations but later dropped it .  Let us study the teachings properly and focus on our sadhana and leave the rest to Ishwara to guide us to the next stages . We must consider ourselves blessed enough to have access to all these wonderful teachings and mechanism for communicating with each other and share our spiritual thoughts .
So let us consider Internet as the Jnani and make best use of this Jnani :)

General topics / Re: Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi
« on: October 03, 2012, 09:15:41 AM »
Wonderful post on Gandhiji and Bhagavan.There is wonderful post on the mahAtma by David in his Blog recounting poonjAji's reminiscence of Gandhiji.
I will post it here.Meantime,I will post what you have done here over there!Sometimes it is deeply fulfilling to be just a Postman!

Thanks Ravi

I posted about Bhagwan Ramana and Gandhi to show how much regard Bhagwan had of Gandhi .

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 03, 2012, 09:13:40 AM »
Fools argue endlessly; skeptics doubt and criticize endlessly; a wise seeker abides by the instructions imparted by a realised Guru and gets liberated at the earliest. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

General topics / Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi
« on: October 03, 2012, 07:02:27 AM »
Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi

Saw this piece in Ramana Ashram Face Book Updates on the occasion of Gandhi Jayanti on 2 Oct 2012  and wanted to share with all of you .

Courtesy Karthik Venkatsubramanian On the night of January 30th, the news of Mahatma Gandhi’s death became known everywhere. I heard the news at home only, because women cannot be in the Ashram in the nights. I went at 7-30 next morning. A prayer was being broadcast over the radio. The news of the death was in the newspapers, and Bhagavan reading it and hearing the prayer,said, “This is the prayer of people who prayed like that throughout his life.” The song “Vaishnava Janato” was broadcast over the radio and Bhagavan listened to it sadly. At 9-45, Bhagavan was about to go out when a newspaper reporter came and requested him to give his views on the tragedy so that they might be published.Bhagavan, his voice choked with emotion, said, “For the Mahatma’s death in this tragic manner, every person’s heart is mourning. What is there in particular that I could say? Who is there who is not grieved? If I say anything, you will publish it and then, one after another, people will come and ask me. What is the good of it?” So saying, Bhagavan sent the reporter away and went for his walk. On his return, “Vaishnava Janato” was again being broadcast and tears fell from Bhagavan’s eyes.At 4-30 that afternoon, all the ladies began to sing “Raghupati Raghava Rajaram”.With tears in his eyes Bhagavan signed to us to continue. At 5 o’clock the conch shell blew and in view of the Mahatma’s death a special arati (waving of lights) was offered in the Mother’s temple. When the sacred ash and vermilion powder were brought,Bhagavan took them with great reverence.

General topics / Re: Vishnu Sahasranamam and Self Enquiry
« on: October 02, 2012, 07:14:40 PM »
Can somebody who has read a advaitic interpretation (Shankara's bhashyam) share your thoughts? If you have a book or website link pls share as well.
Arsha Vidya Gurukulam has published a Comprehensive book on Vindu Sahasranama with the detailed Commentary by Swami Dayananda based on Adi Shankara's Commentary .
This book is in English and has detailed meanings to all the 1000 names of Lord Vishnu and it is of 620 Pages ( Hard Bound ) , .I do not know of its current price as I got it few years back .
You can either get it in Giri Trading Chennai ( near Mylapore )
or in Contact
Arsha Vidya Gurukulam
Anaikatti , Coimbatore
Tel : 0422-2657001/2658269
email :

As regards why Adi Shankara commented on these namas here is the translation of the Shloka where Adi Shankara himself gives the reason in his introduction to the commentary  :
The Praiseworthy hymn of the thousand names of purushottama ,who has thousands of forms and thousands of eyes , mouths , feet and arms , is commented upon for the cessation of birth ,old age and so on .

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 07:06:35 PM »
Religion does not fetter man's free-will. It leaves him quite free to act, but tells him at the same time what is good for him and what is not. The responsibility is entirely and solely his. He cannot escape it by blaming fate, for fate is of his own making, nor by blaming God, for he is but the dispenser of fruits in accordance with the merits of actions. You are the master of your own destiny. It is for you to make it, to better it or to mar it. This is your privilege. This is your responsibility. - Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati Mahaswamiji , Sringeri Acharya

General topics / Re: Discussion on the Quotes of Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:55:45 AM »
The following are the quotes that have been shared in the other thread .Members may now feel free to discuss the same . Now .

1)An arrow set on the bow string, and ready to be discharged may well be withheld. Similarly, past actions (sanchita karma) that are ready to produce reactions, are rendered barren by the power of Atma Jnana of a Jnani. Hence when the body of the knower of Truth falls, there shall be no further births.- Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

2)kuru the ganga sagara gamanam
vrata paripalanam atava daanam
jnana viheena sarva mateena
bhajti na muktim janma shatena

whehter one goes to ganga or performs rituals or does charity
the one without Self Knowledge does not gain Liberation
even in a 100 births, no matter which religious system he follows.

Bhaja Govindam, Bhaja Govindam Govindam Bhaja Muda Mathe
Samprapthe sannihite kale
nahi nahi rakshati dukrun karane.

Revel in Govinda, Revel in Govinda oh Foolish Mind
When the time of death draws near
the modifications of "kr" dhatu as per grammar rules cannot help.

[Kr dhatu in grammar rules corresponds to the kartrutvam or doership... karma cannot help thats what it means]

----> Sri Adi Shankaracharya Bhaja Govindam.

My favorite from Sankara in Brahma Jnanavalee mala


    Ghatkutyaadikam sarvam mrittika maatram eva
    Tadvad brahma jagat sarvam ithi Vedanta dindima

Pot, wall are all Mud alone (meaning they are names and forms of Mud alone and names and forms never exist separate from the reality). Similarly the world is Brahman alone – this is what Vedanta is telling at the top of its voice.


    Brahma Satyam Jagan mithya jeevo brahmaiva na parah
    Anena vedhyam sat shaastram ithi Vedanta dindima

Brahman is the ultimate reality, world is an illusion seen in Brahman. The individualistic jeeva or Self (who finds himself as part of the whole world) is Brahman alone & not different from Brahman. By knowing this, the eternal reality of Truth or Existence according to the scriptures is known – so says the Vedanta.

4)"Guru" does not mean a person, or a mortal being but denotes a principle, an activating principle, a subliming force that is ever present, ever conscious, ever luminous, ever protecting and much above anybody's conception. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal.

5)When a devotee, though not qualified to attain Atmajnana directly, completely surrenders to the Lord, the Lord takes care of him and bestows him with Atmajnana. There is no doubt about this. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal.

6)true bhakti is abidance in Self --> Vivekachudamani , Shankaracharya.

7)When man begins to realise the presence of the same Atman in all living beings, malice towards people and other beings starts disappearing. Compassion dawns. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamiga

General topics / Discussion on the Quotes of Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:46:53 AM »
Dear Friends

I opening a new thread that is maintained exclusively for discussion of quotes related to Shankarachara's right from Adi Shankaracharya till the present ones .

I had already opened another thread on the same where I have requested only the quotes to be posted for meditative reading and not for discussion .I thank Sri Ravi for giving me this suggestion .
Since doubts will definitely arise ,I have opened a separate thread for discussing the quotes related to the Shankaracharya's .

Now the reason why I chose Shankaracharaya's was that they are the formal un-broken lineage of Advaita and Sanathana Dharma as established by Sri Adi Shankara more than 1000 years back .
Though outwardly they may seem to stress the ritualistic way of life but their ultimate goal is only Atma Gnana which Bhagwan  Ramana took it up directly .
So in the end Adi Shankara and Bhagwan Ramana both meet and in fact Bhagwan Ramana has himself translated many works of Adi Shankara in to Tamil .
I am neither an authority on Adi Shankara's teachings and commentaries nor on Bhagwan Ramana's teachings and works and hence I will not be contributing much in these discussions and I leave it to other seniors here to clear the doubts of any quotes posted here .
Om Peace .

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