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I grew up in an atmosphere of Muruga bhakti, because my father
used to chant Tiruppugazh songs everyday in the pooja.  Muruga
is also our family deity. 
My father turned to Sri Satya Sai Baba and stopped all reading and rituals in his later years, but that is another matter.  I started reading Tiruvachakam, from late 1980s and this book attracted me very much.  I was reading one decad everyday and the whole of 566 songs of Tiruvachakam on Sundays.  When later, I was given the Tamil book, Bhagavad Vachnamrutam, Tamil
translation of Talks of Munagala Venkatramiah by Sri A.R. Natarajan in Bangalore. And this made me to arrive at Sri Ramana.  The equation, Muruga (six faced Siva) = Siva (five faced) = Sri Ramana, fitted very well.

Arunachala Siva.   

Subramaniam Sir

Lord Subramanya is also our family deity and our family deity is Tinniyam Subramanya Swami ( few kms away from Lalgudi near Trichy ) . The speciality of this Subramanya is that here Subramanya is facing South i.e Like Lord Dakshinamurti .I visited it only last week . In my life Lord Subramanya comes in various forms ,first as Saint Ramalinga Swamigal , then Swami Sivananda ( I opened a book on Kandar Anubuti by Divine Life Society ,Rishikesh and found a picture of Swami Sivananda with a Vel ) , then Bhagwan Ramana who is Lord Subramanya himself .
My first visit outside India was to Canada as a guest by the Sivananda Ashram in ValMorin , near Quebec and guess what the visit was for - it was for the Kumbabhishekam of Lord Subramanya Temple there .The entire visit was fully sponsored by them ( plane ticket , stay ,food , sight seeing etc ) .
My father expired exactly on the day of Shahsti titi .
Few years back I was pulled deeply in to the devotional songs of Pamban Swamigal - Shanmuga Kavacham , Panchamrutha Vannam, Pagai Kathidal ,Kumarasthavam and I used to visit the Samadhi of Pamban Swamigal on Thursdays and just spend time in silence there . After Bhagwan's Samadhi in Ramanasharm , this is the only samadhi shrine I am comfortable with  that I can visit in a short notice .
When my mother visited America for the first time , she was travelling alone by flight and that was her maiden flight journey to USA and she was quite afraid as it was an International travel and she had to change flights etc ,I told her not to worry and trust in Lord Subramanya and LO she was luckily to have the Main Trustee of the Arupadai Veedu Temple in Besant Nagar Mrs.Alamelu Arunachalam as her co-passenger and she completed helped her out as she was a frequent traveller .
And like this I can continue many things regarding the blessings I received from Lord Subramanya . Why even in this forum , it is through ur help ( u have Subramaniam as the name itself ) to help me out with Bhagwan's Tamil works .Of course I treasure everyone's inputs here .Since I refer to you regularly I am bringing out this Subramanya co-incidence .But I value everyone's contribution here .
I am choked with emotion when I write all these things .
Will share more later . So just let me know which Subramanya is your family deity ?

This is an old thread that I came across only now .
I read a lot of books related to spirituality from various spiritual teachers and schools of thought but if I have to pick just a select few books that really made an impact on me then these are the following books :

1) Commentaries on Living Vol-II by J.Krishnamurti especially the chapter 31-What is the True Function of a Teacher
2) Living by the words of Bhagawan by David Godman
3) Heart of Yoga by TKV Desikachar
4) Upadesa Saram of Bhagawan Ramana with the Commentary of Swami Dayananda .
5) Path of Compassion - Jeeva Karunya Ozhukkam by Saint Ramalinga Swamigal /Vallalar

However more than books , it was the practical Yoga Sadhana of Swami Sivananda as systematized by his disciple Swami Vishnu devananda ( founder of Sivananda Yoga Vedanta Centres world wide and author of the book "Complete Illustrated Book of Yoga " )  that gave me lot of stability and spiritual depth that I was desperately seeking . Surprisingly I never read any of Swami Sivananda's books before nor knew about Swami Vishnu devananda but it was like a divine will pushed me on to the path of Yoga on 14 July 1997  the Maha Samadhi Day of Swami Sivananda . Right now I am not active with the Sivananda Organization but I am always grateful to Swami Sivananda and Swami Vishnu devananda for building the practical foundation of spirituality in me and I am ever grateful to them .

General Discussion / Re: Ramalinga Swamigal
« on: September 13, 2012, 10:18:43 PM »
Ramalinga Swamigal was one of my earliest spiritual inspirations and I was very much moved after reading his prose work "Path of Compassion i.e Jeeva Karuna Ozhukkam " and have the complete set of Thiruarutpa with me .
The Only problem with Ramalinga Swamigal is that one does not know what exact philosophy he followed . Traditional Saivites shun him saying that he moved away from Saiva Marga . Advaitins say that his philosophy is not advaita as he talks about body dematerialization of the body etc .
But one thing is sure : There is lot of devotion in his poems and some say that his poems are inspired from Manickavachar's Thiruvachagam .

General topics / Re: Muruganar Samadhi Day 2012 at Ramana Ashram
« on: September 13, 2012, 07:51:04 PM »
Today is my last day in Tiruvannamalai.

Subramaniam Sir
Hope that ur short visit to Thiruvannamalai was spiritually refreshing especially on this auspicious occasion .
Om Peace .

General topics / Muruganar Samadhi Day 2012 at Ramana Ashram
« on: September 13, 2012, 05:25:20 PM »
Following is the piece I found in Ramana Ashram Face Book Site :
Murugunar, one of the foremost devotees of Bhagavan, attained Samadhi on new moon day in the Tamil month of Avani. As there are two new moons in the month of Avani, Sri Ramanasramam will observe the function on September 15 following Hindu Panchangam. In honor of the divine poet Murugunar, devotees have organized a three day function at Sri Ramanasramam. Muttruodhal(complete narration) of Tiruvachakam and Ramana Sannidhi Murai. Today ( i.e Thu 13 Sept 2012 ) Tiruvachakam was narrated by a group of devotees. Tomorrow Oduvar from Kapaleeswarar temple Mylapore will sing selected songs from these works.

Many questions remain.  No answers
Dear Kskat

Sorry to hear about this Tragic incident .I know how much pain you must have felt .I myself get very much disturbed by seeing these sort of things and even when these sort of incidents  come on TV , I switch the channels or switch off the TV .
Having said that , not all questions have convincing answers . There is a higher power that control many activities in the Universe and we have no way to know why certain things happen .
Any sort of answer will not help the Parents of the boy derive any form of consolation .As humans we can only pray to the almighty to give strength to the family to withstand this loss and also to  take precautions to see that human lives are not lost due to these sort of  carelessness i.e open sumps , open drains , open wells , live electric wife , faulty constructions etc etc .

General Discussion / Re: pronuniciaton of gayathri mantra
« on: September 08, 2012, 08:06:33 PM »


I got the following input from a friend of mine about why many people are unable to get proper benefits of Chanting Gayathri Mantra . He said that Devi Bhagavatham has dealt on this issue .
As Kali Yuga is characterized by materialistic tendencies and straying far
away from Dharma, it is believed that the sages have cast curses on various sacred
mantras to become ineffective in Kali Yuga in order to prevent these mantras from
being misused. There are mantras that  seek to remove the curses of Lord Brahma,
Sage Vasishta and Sage Vishvamitra on Gayatri Mantram. In Devi Bhagavatam, it is
given that  Shapa Vimochana Mantras should be chanted prior to
Gayatri Japam, though this practice is not strictly in vogue.

Those who have more inputs on the same can share it .

General Discussion / Re: pronuniciaton of gayathri mantra
« on: September 07, 2012, 05:45:35 PM »
It is better to follow the Sandhya Vandanam CD of Prakash Kaushik or other that has a chant or instructions of Vedic Scholars . Do not get the CDs that have just Gayathri playing in the form of music or like a Bhajan .They are pleasing to hear but are not correct with regard to pronunciation of the Mantra . Sringeri Sri Sharada Peetam has released a Sandhya Vandanam CD + book and that should help .

General Discussion / Re: how many of you here do japa
« on: September 07, 2012, 05:40:20 PM »
Dear Kskat

Before trying to force urself in doing Japa of any nama/mantra , try learning or listening to few devotional songs / bhajans of your favorite deity / Guru for 20-30mts daily  and that is the first step towards developing any other sadhana further . If u like Shiva then listen to SPB's Shiva Stutis , If u like lord Vishnu then start with MS Subhalakshmi's Vishnu Sahasranamam , Venkatesa Suprabatham , if u like Lord Subramanya then listen to Soolamangalam Sisters Skanda Shasti Kavacham , Skanda Guru Kavacham etc . Try listening to any thing that is lighter , simple to listen and that keeps u interested in listening to it for 20-30 daily .First u need to develop a daily association with ur favorite Guru / Deity and it does not have to be  in the form of Mantra , Nama and it can be in the form of simple ,devotional Bhajans.Once u start with this , the next step will follow accordingly .

Subramaniam Sir

Thanks for the inputs about invoking rain God in various Classical songs and ragas in our culture . Even the daily sandhya vandanam has one mantra chanted in evening "Imam me varuna srudhi havam. adya cha mridaya.." i.e invoking God Varuna - the rain God . This was highlighted by Sringeri Guru Maha Sannidhanam Sri Chandrasekharendra Sarswathi when some one asked him which Mantra to chant to invoke the rain God and he said if he did Sandhya Vandanam properly that is itself enough and pointed out this mantra .
However I feel many great Mahatmas in our Land have given beautiful hyms , songs , ragas to invoke rain God and we must make best use of it .
I feel it would be better if we can start a separate thread where Mantras , Hymns ,Ragas invoking Rain God can be shared . Few weeks back my family Vadhiyar showed me a list of shlokas from Narayaneeyam to invoke rain Gods .I will see if I can get it from him  and share the same here
Om Peace  .
Om Peace .

Subramaniam Sir

I had already mentioned about the efforts of Sri Damodaran in my first post in a quote .Anyway nice to remind people of it again . It is good that Thiruvachagam Parayana is being organized at various places .

Subramaniam Sir

What a Miracle today Sun 2 Sept 2012  in Chennai . At 5 p.m when the Thiruvachagam Parayanam was completed in Kanchi Mahaswamy Mantapan in Gandhi Nagar ,Adyar there was heavy downpour in Adyar , Mylapore areas .I do not know about other Areas where there was rain .It seems Gods where themselves pleased by this effort and showered their blessings .

I understood more of Tiruvachakam only by reading again and again the Tamizh verses.

Subramaniam Sir

My approach is also the same . I just intend to parayanam of Thiruvachagam , Thirukural and Thevarams , Thayumanavar songs , Thiruarutpa and Bhagwan Ramana's Tamil works bit by bit and slowly understand its meaning .In the meanwhile I am open to listening to talks on the above Tamil works as well as read Translations of the same .

Subramaniam Sir

Thanks for these inputs .Thiruvachagam is a priceless treasure . But I feel to understand "its depths"  one needs to be a quite an evolved soul .Anyway till then let us enjoy its verses as best as we can .

This is just to inform all interested people that there will be a complete Parayana of Thiruvachagam on Sun 2 Sept 2012 at Sri Kanchi Mahaswamy Anatha Mandapam , close to Sri Anantha Padmanabha Swamy Temple in Adyar ,Gandhi Nagar

Timings : 9 a.m - 5 p.m
Swami Omkarananda who is observing his Chaturmasya Vrata there is conducting it and many other Thiruvachagam scholars and Parayana Groups will be participating in the same .

Just now found in Sri Ramanaashram Saranagati News Letter the Sept 2012 issue , a short clip about a similar effort taken by one Sri Damodaran in popularizing Thiruvachagam complete Parayana at many places in Tamil Nadu .
Here is the news clip:

Sri Damodharan of Tirukazhukundram, the town where Jnana Sambandar, Appar, Sundara,and Manikavachakar came and sang their hymns, began sponsoring biksha for 50 pilgrims
each day at the holy kshetra. Discovering the power of Manikavachakar’s great work, the
Tiruvachakam, Sri Damodharan began sponsoring all-day chanting programmes, first in Avudaiyar Kovil (for 1,000) in April, then Chidambaram (4,000) in June, and finally, a full-day programmei n Tiruvannamalai (very close to the Ashram) on the 29th July which hosted more than10,000 participants. The next programme is to take place in Kanchipuram in September

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