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General topics / Re: Vishnu Sahasranamam and Self Enquiry
« on: October 03, 2012, 07:46:37 PM »
Subramaniam Sir

I have heard of the story and it is true and some say in fact Paramacharya wanted to show people the importance of Vishu Sahasranama that he crated a sort of leela to demonstrate its powers and I believe that the Scholars who chanted were headed by Sri Anantarama Dikshitar ( I am not sure about this ) .
Also to make Vishnu Sahasranama Popular , Paramachraya asked MS Subbulakshmi to record Venkatesa Suprabatham , Vishnu Sahasranamam , Bhaja Govindam and  MS Subbulakshmi took that work in full seriousness and though she had a very divine voice yet she took  training of chanting of Vishnu Sahasranama from  Sanskrit Scholars before she formally recorded and that is why they are still popular the world over .

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General topics / Re: Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi
« on: October 03, 2012, 02:02:44 PM »
I would like learn, can somebody help me identify a Jnani? Can somebody be able to tell me the nature of a Jnani? Who is Ajnani, and who is a Jnani?



Not me definitely  :)
There was a time I was doing all these investigations but later dropped it .  Let us study the teachings properly and focus on our sadhana and leave the rest to Ishwara to guide us to the next stages . We must consider ourselves blessed enough to have access to all these wonderful teachings and mechanism for communicating with each other and share our spiritual thoughts .
So let us consider Internet as the Jnani and make best use of this Jnani :)

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General topics / Re: Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi
« on: October 03, 2012, 09:15:41 AM »
Krishna(Atmavichar)
Wonderful post on Gandhiji and Bhagavan.There is wonderful post on the mahAtma by David in his Blog recounting poonjAji's reminiscence of Gandhiji.
I will post it here.Meantime,I will post what you have done here over there!Sometimes it is deeply fulfilling to be just a Postman!
Namaskar.

Thanks Ravi

I posted about Bhagwan Ramana and Gandhi to show how much regard Bhagwan had of Gandhi .

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 03, 2012, 09:13:40 AM »
Fools argue endlessly; skeptics doubt and criticize endlessly; a wise seeker abides by the instructions imparted by a realised Guru and gets liberated at the earliest. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

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General topics / Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi
« on: October 03, 2012, 07:02:27 AM »
Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi

Saw this piece in Ramana Ashram Face Book Updates on the occasion of Gandhi Jayanti on 2 Oct 2012  and wanted to share with all of you .

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Courtesy Karthik Venkatsubramanian On the night of January 30th, the news of Mahatma Gandhi’s death became known everywhere. I heard the news at home only, because women cannot be in the Ashram in the nights. I went at 7-30 next morning. A prayer was being broadcast over the radio. The news of the death was in the newspapers, and Bhagavan reading it and hearing the prayer,said, “This is the prayer of people who prayed like that throughout his life.” The song “Vaishnava Janato” was broadcast over the radio and Bhagavan listened to it sadly. At 9-45, Bhagavan was about to go out when a newspaper reporter came and requested him to give his views on the tragedy so that they might be published.Bhagavan, his voice choked with emotion, said, “For the Mahatma’s death in this tragic manner, every person’s heart is mourning. What is there in particular that I could say? Who is there who is not grieved? If I say anything, you will publish it and then, one after another, people will come and ask me. What is the good of it?” So saying, Bhagavan sent the reporter away and went for his walk. On his return, “Vaishnava Janato” was again being broadcast and tears fell from Bhagavan’s eyes.At 4-30 that afternoon, all the ladies began to sing “Raghupati Raghava Rajaram”.With tears in his eyes Bhagavan signed to us to continue. At 5 o’clock the conch shell blew and in view of the Mahatma’s death a special arati (waving of lights) was offered in the Mother’s temple. When the sacred ash and vermilion powder were brought,Bhagavan took them with great reverence.

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General topics / Re: Vishnu Sahasranamam and Self Enquiry
« on: October 02, 2012, 07:14:40 PM »
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Can somebody who has read a advaitic interpretation (Shankara's bhashyam) share your thoughts? If you have a book or website link pls share as well.
Arsha Vidya Gurukulam has published a Comprehensive book on Vindu Sahasranama with the detailed Commentary by Swami Dayananda based on Adi Shankara's Commentary .
This book is in English and has detailed meanings to all the 1000 names of Lord Vishnu and it is of 620 Pages ( Hard Bound ) , .I do not know of its current price as I got it few years back .
You can either get it in Giri Trading Chennai ( near Mylapore )
or in Contact
Arsha Vidya Gurukulam
Anaikatti , Coimbatore
Tel : 0422-2657001/2658269
email : arsha1@vsnl.com

As regards why Adi Shankara commented on these namas here is the translation of the Shloka where Adi Shankara himself gives the reason in his introduction to the commentary  :
The Praiseworthy hymn of the thousand names of purushottama ,who has thousands of forms and thousands of eyes , mouths , feet and arms , is commented upon for the cessation of birth ,old age and so on .

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 07:06:35 PM »
Religion does not fetter man's free-will. It leaves him quite free to act, but tells him at the same time what is good for him and what is not. The responsibility is entirely and solely his. He cannot escape it by blaming fate, for fate is of his own making, nor by blaming God, for he is but the dispenser of fruits in accordance with the merits of actions. You are the master of your own destiny. It is for you to make it, to better it or to mar it. This is your privilege. This is your responsibility. - Sri Chandrasekhara Bharati Mahaswamiji , Sringeri Acharya

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General topics / Re: Discussion on the Quotes of Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:55:45 AM »
The following are the quotes that have been shared in the other thread .Members may now feel free to discuss the same . Now .

1)An arrow set on the bow string, and ready to be discharged may well be withheld. Similarly, past actions (sanchita karma) that are ready to produce reactions, are rendered barren by the power of Atma Jnana of a Jnani. Hence when the body of the knower of Truth falls, there shall be no further births.- Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal


2)kuru the ganga sagara gamanam
vrata paripalanam atava daanam
jnana viheena sarva mateena
bhajti na muktim janma shatena

whehter one goes to ganga or performs rituals or does charity
the one without Self Knowledge does not gain Liberation
even in a 100 births, no matter which religious system he follows.

Bhaja Govindam, Bhaja Govindam Govindam Bhaja Muda Mathe
Samprapthe sannihite kale
nahi nahi rakshati dukrun karane.

Revel in Govinda, Revel in Govinda oh Foolish Mind
When the time of death draws near
the modifications of "kr" dhatu as per grammar rules cannot help.

[Kr dhatu in grammar rules corresponds to the kartrutvam or doership... karma cannot help thats what it means]

----> Sri Adi Shankaracharya Bhaja Govindam.


3)
My favorite from Sankara in Brahma Jnanavalee mala

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    Ghatkutyaadikam sarvam mrittika maatram eva
    Tadvad brahma jagat sarvam ithi Vedanta dindima


Pot, wall are all Mud alone (meaning they are names and forms of Mud alone and names and forms never exist separate from the reality). Similarly the world is Brahman alone – this is what Vedanta is telling at the top of its voice.

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    Brahma Satyam Jagan mithya jeevo brahmaiva na parah
    Anena vedhyam sat shaastram ithi Vedanta dindima


Brahman is the ultimate reality, world is an illusion seen in Brahman. The individualistic jeeva or Self (who finds himself as part of the whole world) is Brahman alone & not different from Brahman. By knowing this, the eternal reality of Truth or Existence according to the scriptures is known – so says the Vedanta.



4)"Guru" does not mean a person, or a mortal being but denotes a principle, an activating principle, a subliming force that is ever present, ever conscious, ever luminous, ever protecting and much above anybody's conception. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal.


5)When a devotee, though not qualified to attain Atmajnana directly, completely surrenders to the Lord, the Lord takes care of him and bestows him with Atmajnana. There is no doubt about this. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal.


6)true bhakti is abidance in Self --> Vivekachudamani , Shankaracharya.


7)When man begins to realise the presence of the same Atman in all living beings, malice towards people and other beings starts disappearing. Compassion dawns. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamiga

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General topics / Discussion on the Quotes of Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:46:53 AM »
Dear Friends

I opening a new thread that is maintained exclusively for discussion of quotes related to Shankarachara's right from Adi Shankaracharya till the present ones .

I had already opened another thread on the same where I have requested only the quotes to be posted for meditative reading and not for discussion .I thank Sri Ravi for giving me this suggestion .
Since doubts will definitely arise ,I have opened a separate thread for discussing the quotes related to the Shankaracharya's .

Now the reason why I chose Shankaracharaya's was that they are the formal un-broken lineage of Advaita and Sanathana Dharma as established by Sri Adi Shankara more than 1000 years back .
Though outwardly they may seem to stress the ritualistic way of life but their ultimate goal is only Atma Gnana which Bhagwan  Ramana took it up directly .
So in the end Adi Shankara and Bhagwan Ramana both meet and in fact Bhagwan Ramana has himself translated many works of Adi Shankara in to Tamil .
I am neither an authority on Adi Shankara's teachings and commentaries nor on Bhagwan Ramana's teachings and works and hence I will not be contributing much in these discussions and I leave it to other seniors here to clear the doubts of any quotes posted here .
Om Peace .

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:30:31 AM »
Ravi

Thanks for ur inputs .I will open another thread where people can comment and discuss on the quotes in this thread . That is a good idea .

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 10:04:28 AM »
When man begins to realise the presence of the same Atman in all living beings, malice towards people and other beings starts disappearing. Compassion dawns. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamiga[/b]l


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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 28, 2012, 06:23:31 PM »
When a devotee, though not qualified to attain Atmajnana directly, completely surrenders to the Lord, the Lord takes care of him and bestows him with Atmajnana. There is no doubt about this. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal.

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 28, 2012, 02:42:34 PM »
Dear atmavichar,

Many ancient scriptures say that Prarabdha Karma has to be suffered. It is like an arrow that has left the bow string. Now
what is the position? If someone is a Brahma Jnani, then He has no body at all. Then to which lakshyam the arrow hit?
Suppose there is a cow. It hits the cow. Suppose there is no cow at all (no body - as in the case of a Brahma Jnani), then
the arrow should simply fall on the ground.

The absence of Prarabdha Karma has been highlighted only  by Sri Sankara and Sri Bhgagavan.
 
Arunachala Siva.

Subramaniam Sir

Thanks for your inputs .
I would request you to post your comments / discussion in the rough note book thread and I want this place to be only for the comments of all the Shankaracharya's past and present minus the comments and discussions and I have mentioned that above in my first post itself . This is done so that people have access to the original post for their own reflection without having to search through various posts to find the quotes of the Acharyas .
By the way here Sringeri Acharya has mentioned about "Sanchita Karma" and not "Prarabdha Karma".
So surely follow up your comments on this quote or any other quote in the rough note book forum thread and we can  have our discussions there .
Om Peace .

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 28, 2012, 01:15:50 PM »
"Guru" does not mean a person, or a mortal being but denotes a principle, an activating principle, a subliming force that is ever present, ever conscious, ever luminous, ever protecting and much above anybody's conception. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal.

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General topics / Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 28, 2012, 11:23:29 AM »
I would like to open a new thread to share quotes from all Shankarachara's - Adi Shankaracharya , Kanchi Shankaracharaya's and Sringeri Shankaracharya's . The quotes will be primarily related to Advaita , Atma Jnana , Bhakti but sometimes also have inputs related to Dharma

Starting with the first quote from Sri Bharati Teertha Mahaswamigal : I suggest people to just read and reflect on the same and not engage in discussions about it .Those who have quotes from the above acharyas may feel free to share the same here .
By the way discussions on the quotes here can be carried in rough note book open forum.



An arrow set on the bow string, and ready to be discharged may well be withheld. Similarly, past actions (sanchita karma) that are ready to produce reactions, are rendered barren by the power of Atma Jnana of a Jnani. Hence when the body of the knower of Truth falls, there shall be no further births.
- Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

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