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General topics / Re: Watching thoughts and its benefits
« on: October 28, 2012, 09:21:39 PM »
Dear Atmavichar,
     :) Vipasana is a superb technique. But a "Technique" or a "sadhana" is for purification of mind. We should know this clearly.
I believe you understand this difference. :)
Sure I just wanted to know whether you were referring to Vipassana when "Observing the thoughts" was mentioned because that is what Vipassana is popularly for .

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General Discussion / Re: Lalitha Sahasranama
« on: October 28, 2012, 07:17:06 PM »
No Probs Nagaraj .
Om Peace .

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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: October 28, 2012, 07:13:38 PM »
Sri Ravi

Thanks for ur inputs . I have sent an email to you regarding the same .
Appreciate your efforts .

Om Peace .

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General Discussion / Re: my musings
« on: October 28, 2012, 02:43:31 PM »
Sri Ravi

Where can I get Sage TGN's Andal Thiruppavai CD/BOOKs ? Few weeks back  You sent me a link to his site and there is his house address is given in Anna Nagar .Should I get it there or can I can it at other places in Chennai ?

Has he given a talk on Thiruvenbavai?

I intend to listen to learn and listen to both these during the Margazhi time .

Om Peace .

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General Discussion / Re: Lalitha Sahasranama
« on: October 28, 2012, 02:25:15 PM »
Chanting the names of God have a tremendous purifying effect even when chanted unknowingly. What needs to be said of a single divine name chanted with full concentration and devotion? It annihilates all sins. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal.

Sri Bharati Teertha Mashawamy has compiled a selected 108 Names from the 1008 namavali of Goddess Lalitha Devi for people to chant daily during Navarathri especially for  those who cant do daily chanting of the 1008 names .It is in PDF File and I cant attach it here but is available if you google search it .

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General Discussion / Re: Lalitha Sahasranama
« on: October 28, 2012, 02:14:15 PM »
Saw the following wonderful input regarding Chanting of Sri Lalitha Sahasranama from Internet .

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Friend,

No doubt that Sri lalita Sahasra Namams are very Powerful.

These Lalita sahasra Naamams are Highly potent and Sacred and very Secret or Rahasya , Namams.

To chant these naamams with Panchatanmaatra Pooja, Anganyaasa and Karanyaasa and therecitation of moola Mantra with 5 Beeja Aksharams, one needs Upadesam from a Sadguru and
certain discipline is a must.

But for all ladies and gents who have no UPADESAM , the Scriptures very clearly said, that these naamams without moola Mantra and Anganyaasa karanyaasa can be recited, with some Suchi and Subratha,.

Thereis ABSOLUTELY NO DANGER OR ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS FROM RECITING THESE NAAMAMS AS SAID ABOVE.

These Naamams contain, in hidden shape all Beeja Aksharams in the Naamams .So you get FULL BENEFIT.

Please recite with no fear.Lalita is our Mother.She is the Most affectionate Mother.

Be blessed and recite .

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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 28, 2012, 08:56:48 AM »
The Shastras say that the merit of charity is reduced once you publicise the charity you have performed. Never publicise your charity. - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 28, 2012, 07:45:27 AM »
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conventional Advaita teachers generally dont teach YV and AG because they teach to a gathering. These texts are best taught to students on individual basis. E

Ok Tushnim , Got it i.e the difference between Gathering and Individual  .Thanks for ur reply .

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General topics / Re: Watching thoughts and its benefits
« on: October 28, 2012, 07:41:26 AM »
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Observing thoughts is a very good and useful sadhana.

In Buddhism they practice this in the form of a technique called "Vipassana" , so is Vipassana also useful technique ?

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General Discussion / Re: 12 tirumurais
« on: October 27, 2012, 08:51:14 PM »
Thanks for the link Nagaraj . A wonderful treasure indeed .

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 27, 2012, 02:33:15 PM »
Dear Ravi ji,
      :) Whats so secretive about Ashtavakra Gita / Yoga Vasishta ?
They contain the essence of Vedantic teaching. Ramana taught even
Ribhu Gita and suggested that people should listen to it.

I have not come across a single situation where Ramana forbade anyone
from studying Ribhu Gita/YV/AG.

As for Sri Ramakrishna, we may have to carefully see why he did it?
There is no way to know.

Tushnim

I am also surprised by the same . Even among Conventional Advaita Teachers ,I hardly find anyone talking about these texts and they confine only to BG , the 10 Classical Upanishads and some Texts of Adi Shankara like Viveka Choodmani , and other minor texts but AG,YV ,RG etc are never talked about or studied in depth . Is it because these texts focus directly on 'I" instead of discussing all 3 i.e Jiva ,Jagat ,Ishwara etc .I am saying this because in one of the talks of Swami Paramarthananda ( I think on his talk on Bhagwan Ramana's  Sat Darshanam ) he said the difference between Bhagwan Ramana's Texts and other regular Advaitic Texts is that Bhagwan focus only on the "I" aspect and does not talk much about Jagat or Ishwara like Other Vedantic Texts . No wonder Bhagwan recommends people to read AG,YV,UG but does not talk about reading Bhagavad Gita , Upanishads etc . This is just my guess . What is your opinion on the same since you have read well the Classical Adviata Texts .
Note : AG - Ashtavakara Gita , RG- Ribhu Gita , YV- Yoga Vashishta

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The clan of Swami Nityanandas are increasing.

There is a saying ,as the King so the subjects or otherway as the subjects so is the King . We get only what we deserve . Recently a relative of mine was complaining about the increase in Pseudo Gurus all over and I told him that Pseudo Gurus thrive  because there is a market ready for them  in the form of brainless devotees who expect quick fix solutions to all their problems . We have instant food , instant coffee , instant ATM machine ,instant messaging etc and so also we want a Guru who gives us instant Moksha . "
Lord Krishna ,talks of 4 types of Devotees in Bhagwad Gita
(Bhagwat Gita: Chapter 7 verse 16)
Sri Krishna said: O Arjuna, four kinds of pious men begin to render devotional service unto Me—the distressed, the inquisitive, the desirer of wealth, and the one who is searching for knowledge of the Absolute."

The distressed and desirer of wealth are in Majority and the inquisitive and searching for knowledge of absolute are in Minority and you know now why Pseudo Gurus are mushrooming a lot .They focus on the Majority as that is where the Market is .

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 27, 2012, 09:46:13 AM »
Some info on V Subramanya Iyer and his connections with the Ramakrishna Mission

http://www.srkmys.org/earlydays.html
In 1932 the Maharaja of Mysore made a grant to start a Vedanta college for the mission Swamijis, to be conducted primarily by Sri V Subrahmanya Iyer, retired register of the Mysore University and tutor to the Maharaja. The arrangement was that groups of five or six Swamijis would study Vedantic scriptures one after months. And for this a new building was built with the help of the Maharaja. Sri Subramanya Iyer was a good Scholar, knew Sanskrit well,and was well trained in scientific thought and Western Philosophy.

He was also endowed with a critical mind. Hearings of Sri Iyer's scholarship Swami Nikhilanandaji was the first to come to Mysore. He spent almost a year with Sri Iyer discussing Vedanta as a scientific philosophy Nikhilanandaji later became the head of the Ramakrishna-Vivekananda Center in New--York, where he edited and published the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna in English. Then came Swami Madhavanandaji, who later became the General Secretary and then the president of the order. He was then translating Shankara's commentary on the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad. He used to discuss it with Sri Subramanya Iyer. These were the earliest people who came informally to study Vedanta. But from 1932 on wards,Belur math started sending to Mysore three or four sadhus every year, to study under Sri Subramanya Iyer. Among those who came in the first batch was Swami Bhuteshanandaji, the previous President of the Ramakrishna Math and Mission, who passed away just a year and a half back; and swami Vimuktanandaji, Whose Pre monastic name was Upen Maharaj and who was then in charge of the college at Belur Math. The classes used to be held in the library. In the meantime, a lawyer friend by name Rangachar donated his house situated near the Ashrama in Vontikoppal itself.

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 27, 2012, 09:30:05 AM »
Another link with regard to Ashtavakara Gita and Sri Rama Krishna Paramahamsa


From
Commentaries of Rajasevasakta V. Subrahmanya Iyer Vol-1
From the posthumous collections of Paul Brunton
Edited by Mark Scorelle, 1999

Page 204


RAMAKRISHNA practiced meditation with yogis, and he said that all these were progressive
steps and did not condemn them. Yet with Vivekananda he taught that religion and yoga were
not the end, for they can never directly lead to Brahma-gnana.
Teachings other than Vedanta are for beginners only. There are stages in comprehending truth.
Hence Sri Ramakrishna taught Vedanta--the highest truth--only to Vivekananda. All his other
disciples were taught Yoga, mysticism or theology. He kept a Vedanta treatise (Ashtavakra Gita)
hidden under his pillow when others came to talk, but when he was alone with Vivekananda he
brought the book out and taught him from it.


Note all the above book plus other books of V Subramanya Iyer are available for free download as ebooks from the following site :
http://wisdomsgoldenrod.org/publications/

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General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 27, 2012, 09:20:30 AM »
Since Yoga Vasishtha and Ashtavakara Gita are being mentioned here ,I am sharing a small info about the same from Swami Krishnananda , Divine Life Society
http://www.swami-krishnananda.org/foundations/foun_5a.html

Even a book like Yoga Vasishtha, which comes under the Agama section, was kept secretively by Swami Sivanandaji Maharaj. He would not allow that book to be in the library. There was an abridged edition called the Laghu Yoga Vasishtha, translated into English by Narayanaswamy Iyengar, which Gurudev read many times and underlined sentences in red pencil, but he removed the book from the library saying that it is not to be read by everyone.

The Ashtavakra Gita was a favourite text of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, but if anybody came near, he would thrust it under the bed so that people may not know that it was there. The Ashtavakra Gita, Avadhuta Gita, Yoga Vasishtha and Tripurarahasya are all Agama Sastras because they tell us something which nobody will tell us and nobody is expected to tell us.