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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: December 25, 2012, 08:51:49 PM »
Deliverance from misery is possible only be the direct knowledge of one's true nature. And that happens only through the Guru's Grace.- Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal.

The student himself has to simply listen, study these and those texts will eventually aid the student abide as the Self continuously.

For me I am yet to study those Scriptural Classics  ( like Ribhu Gita , Ashtavakara Gita ,Upanishads etc ) in depth and right now just confining myself to Shravanam of Srimad Bhagavad Gita and parayana of some Sacred Tamil and Sanskrit Chants but for me studying the English books related to  Bhagwan ( like Power of Presence , Living by the Words of Bhagwan , Day by Day with Bhagwan ,Talks with Ramana Maharshi etc ) are supporting aids for my Niddhidhayasanam as Bhagawan always points to the "Self" whatever the question is . The best book I encountered in my life is "Living by the Words of Bhagwan" as well as "Annamalai Swamy's final talks " and for me they occupy the status of an Upanishad itself .

Om Peace

General topics / Re: Sangam Literature
« on: December 25, 2012, 02:41:42 PM »
The following two verses are from Naladiyar, one of the 18 books of Sangam literature, which speaks of the transient nature of wealth and prosperity.

Subramaniyam Sir

Naladiyar is also an excellent book like Thirukural but it is not as popular as Thirukural but its messages are very excellent .
There is a proverb “The banyan and the Neem twigs make for dental strength”; likewise, the four (lines)- Naladiyar  and the two (lines)-Thirukural  add power to one’s speech, this testifies to the special glory of Thirukkural’ and ‘Naaladiyaar’.

Has Bhagwan quoted any verse of Naladiyar  in his works or replies to questions ?

Mature minds alone can grasp the simple Truth in all its nakedness. - Bhagwan  Ramana

Actually the above quote is part of the following conversation between Bhagwan Ramana and Major Chadwick . But we must note one thing : while Bhagwan Says truth is simple , it is possible to be grasped by a mature mind and not an ordinary mind .
M.: The ultimate Truth is so simple. It is nothing more than being in the pristine state. This is all that need be said. Still, it is a wonder that to teach this simple Truth there should come into being so many religions, creeds, methods and disputes among them and so on! Oh the pity! Oh the pity!

Maj. Chadwick: But people will not be content with simplicity; they want complexity.

M.: Quite so. Because they want something elaborate and attractive and puzzling, so many religions have come into existence and each of them is so complex and each creed in each religion has its own adherents and antagonists. For example, an ordinary Christian will not be satisfied unless he is told that God is somewhere in the far-off Heavens not to be reached by us unaided. Christ alone knew Him and Christ alone can guide us. Worship Christ and be saved. If told the simple truth - "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you" - he is not satisfied and will read complex and far-fetched meanings in such statements. Mature minds alone can grasp the simple Truth in all its nakedness.


Ramana Mentioned 5/6 texts to Annamalai Swami ... all of them are manana/nidhidhyasana based... Ashtavakra Gita, Ribhu Gita, Yoga Vasishta, Ellam Ondre, Kaivalya navaneetam etc... all of them are exceptional texts.

Yes Bhagwan Ramana is well understood by people who have the samskaras to go to the direct path straight away .

Om Peace

Swami Paramarthananda ji's teachings would make you understand the truth
and Ribhu gita will help you abide there in

Let me promise ... if you give your mind to both these ...  completely and without reservations ...
it wont take very long for you to clearly see and abide there :)!

May you discover the Ramana or Arunachala which is ever present as Self within.

Thanks Tushnim

Can we say that Srimad Bhagavad Gita is a good text for Shravanama/Mananam
Ashtavakara Gita good for Mananam/Niddhidhyasanam
Ribhu Gita purely only for Niddhidhyasanam ?

By the way have you heard of another Text Called "Avadhutha Gita " and Swami Sivananda mentions a lot about it .
Om Peace

Thank you dear Atmavichar,
        Seems like a good book, I have downloaded it to read it in detail :) !
Thanks a lot.
Welcome Tushnim

In fact I have to thank my friend who met Swami Shantananda Puri few weeks back at Ramana Ashram and it seems Shantananda Puri urged him to study Ribhu Gita and in fact gave him a free print version of the same autographing that with his small message .In fact yesterday he met me and showed the same and he was the one who pointed out the link to the free PDF Version of the same .
In fact my friend already gifted me a free copy of the Sanskrit English Ribhu Gita text with the audio few weeks back and I started to chant CH-9 of the same from last Thursday i.e  20 Dec 2012 . But as I have restarted the "Shravanam/Mananam" of Srimad Bhagavad Gita of Swami Paramarthananda from Last Sunday i.e 23 Dec 2012 being Gita Jayanati ,I will be occupied with it for some more time but will Chant Ribhu Gita at least once a week mostly on Thursdays to keep in touch with this Text and later make it part of my daily routine .

Om Peace .


Here is a free PDF Booklet called "Sadhanas from Ribhu Gita" by Swami Shantananda Puri

Om Peace

Christmas gift suggestions: To your enemy, forgiveness. To an opponent, tolerance. To a friend, your heart. To a customer, service. To all, charity. To every child, a good example. To yourself, respect. ~Oren Arnold

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: December 24, 2012, 09:22:50 PM »
Even if we were to spend ten minutes in chanting the names of the Lord with devotion, that will amount to a great virtuous deed. Some allow their minds to wander in all directions when they perform their puja or sandhyavandanam. : I have to receive such- and such an amount from this person; I have to file a case against this person" – such are the kinds of thoughts entertained by some during worship. This is not correct. Set aside all your worldly thoughts when you sit for puja and concentrate on Ishwara during that short period of ten minutes or so. Even though the time for which you do puja is very short, if it is spent with devotion, it will yield great punya (virtue). - Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

Dear Atmavichar, Thank You for Beautiful wishes and truly inspiring words of Swami Sivananda! With love and prayers,

Dear Jewell

Thank you .I have posted another detailed Christmas -Its Spiritual Meaning by  Swami Sivananda . Hope you enjoy reading that also .
Merry Christmas to you and your family .
Om Peace

Christmas—Its Spiritual Meaning
Swami Sivananda

Christmas is known to all men the world over historically as the memorable day of the birth of Jesus, the Saviour. Though it is true that Christmas is thus celebrated as the day of the advent of Christ into this world, yet it also symbolises a very deeply significant truth of the spiritual life. Jesus Christ lived and symbolised Divine Consciousness. He is the very personification of Divinity. He was born at a time when ignorance, superstition, greed, hatred and hypocrisy prevailed upon the land. The rulers were arrogant and unrighteous. The people were avaricious, indolent and heedless. Purity was forgotten. Morality was neglected. They were intent upon worshipping mammon than adoring God. There was no idealism.

In the midst of these conditions, Christ was born and He worked a transformation in the lives of people. He gave a new and a spiritual turn to the lives of man. There came a change upon the land. People started upon a new way of life. Thus a new era dawned for the world.

Those conditions of darkness, impurity and materialism that prevailed before the coming of Christ signify to you the inner state of the seeker’s personality before discrimination had dawned upon him and before a spiritual awakening had taken place. In that period the seeker has no thought of God or higher spiritual life. He is immersed in the pursuit of the material things of this external physical world. He is the slave of his senses. He has no spiritual ideal in life. He is desire-ridden. Arrogance, avarice and sensuality characterise his personality. He lives a life of lust, anger, greed, deluded attachment, pride and jealousy.

If this state of things must cease and the seeker must enter into a new life of spiritual aspiration, purity and devotion, then the Christ-spirit must take its birth within his heart. That is the real Christmas when the Divine element begins to express itself in the heart of the man. From then onward, light begins to shine where darkness was before. Ignorance gives place to the beginning of wisdom. Impurity is replaced by purity. Hatred ceases and love begins to blossom forth.

In his innermost core, man is essentially Divine. But upon this field of human personality two forces keep acting. They are the forces of good and evil, of light and of darkness. The Divine and the undivine both operate in the human consciousness of man. To completely overcome and eradicate the undivine elements and to fully manifest the supreme Divine element in all its radiant light and glory is to be achieved only through the living of the Christ-life, in the utmost faithful detail. This is spiritual life. This is Yoga. This is Sadhana (spiritual practice). This is the method of Self-realisation. This is the great Path which leads us to Immortality, Supreme Bliss and Eternal Peace.

If the Christ-life is to be lived, first of all, the child-Christ has to be born in us. Then only the real spiritual life commences for the aspirant. The first manifestation of the Divine urge in the form of spiritual aspiration and the recognition of the spiritual ideal signifies the birth of the infant Jesus within the seeker’s being. From hence starts the living of the Christ-life in all its spiritual details of sublime purity, faith in Divinity, mercy, compassion, love, selflessness, desirelessness, prayerfulness, etc. Hence starts the life of earnest Yoga and Sadhana, of self-restraint and simplicity, of unbroken serenity and peace, balance of mind, unflinching courage in the face of all oppositions and perfect dedication to the worship of God through the service of man. This is the spiritual implication within of the Christmas that is celebrated without.

With the advent of this Christ-spirit within the heart of the seekers, all human desires come to an end and they are replaced by pure higher Divine aspiration, Spirituality overcomes materialism. You break free from your slavery to the senses. You begin to live a new life, a divine life of purity, love, renunciation, humility, non-attachment and selflessness. Your life becomes sublime like the life of Christ. You begin to live a life of complete faith and dependence upon God. You always think of God, talk of Him and live for Him. Helping others becomes a real joy to you. You become a living witness of the Divine. All your life’s activities flow towards God.

Here a very small, but very beautiful, point of deep significance is to be noted without fail. It reveals a deep spiritual Law
. It is the time and the manner of the birth of the Lord upon the holy Christmas day. Jesus Christ was not born in a grand palace. He was not born to very wealthy or learned parents. Also He was not born in the full blaze of daylight with the knowledge of all men. Jesus Christ was born in a simple lowly place, a corner of a stable. He was born to humble and poor parents, who had nothing to boast about, except their own spotless character and holiness. Also He was born in the darkness in the obscure hour of midnight, when no one even knew about it, except a few Divinely blessed people.

The above point of deep significance tells you that the spiritual awakening comes to the seeker, who is perfectly humble and “meek” and “poor in spirit.”
The quality of true humility is one of the indispensable fundamentals. Then we find simplicity, holiness and the renunciation of all desire for worldly wealth and pride of learning. Thirdly, even as Christ was born unknown to the world and in the obscurity of darkness, even so, the advent of the Christ-spirit takes place in the inwardness of man when there is total self-effacement self-abnegation. Where self-aggrandisement and vanity abide, there the descent of Divinity cannot occur, for these expressions of egotism are ever a bar to the unfoldment of the Divine consciousness. Empty thyself and I shall fill thee—is the Divine admonition of the Lord. The Kingdom of Heaven within is for the lowly in spirit. Thus, true humility and self-effacement are the beautiful harbingers, the dawnlights, as it were, that herald the break of the joyous new day, the advent of the new era of a life in Spirit. When they appear within you, then the holy Christmas takes place. There is a new birth then.

This is the birth into a Divine Life.
It was the secret of this birth that centuries ago the Lord Jesus sweetly explained to the good Nicodemus. The good man did not quite understand what precisely Christ meant when He taught that a man must be born again if he is to attain the Kingdom of God. “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked. Then it was that Christ explains that this birth is inward, not of the body, but in the Spirit. Such inner spiritual birth is essential if the Supreme is to be attained, if true bliss is to be experienced. Rejoicing takes place only when Christmas has come.

O humanity! O modern age! Hearken to this significant inner message of Christmas. May the true implication of the Divine Christ Personality dawn upon your hearts! Realise fully that so long as the thirst for mammon and the arrogance of power infects the nature of man, so long the Christ-spirit of peace, blessedness and true happiness cannot enter into your life. When Christmas is being celebrated all over the Continent and in England, America and in the entire Christian world, may this be borne in mind that, “unless ye be born again, ye cannot enter into the Kingdom of Heaven,” and that unless the simplicity and the purity of heart of the little children come to indwell the hardened, unregenerate nature of the modern man, the advent of the Divine Grace as peace, prosperity, universal well-being and concord are indeed far, far away. As with the individual, even so with the nations of the world, the fundamentals of true faith, true charity, genuine humility and a spiritual rebirth alone can usher in true bliss and brotherhood upon this earth. It is when such a transformation occurs in the nations of men and it is when they renounce their policies of hatred and greed that the modern world will truly enjoy the blessings of the real, universal Christmas. Then will be the advent of the Blessed Christ into this despairing world. Till then Christmas will be but a travesty of the real glory of the Lord’s advent. Be born again and live anew, O World of Today! May the bliss and radiance of the Lord’s advent permeate the earth!

But seekers, mark this! When Divinity is to manifest, welcome it with open arms. Do not be so engrossed in the world and deny place to the Lord. At His blessed advent the land was so engrossed in counting men and reckoning of money that the inns and houses of Bethlehem were so crowded out that there was hardly any place left to receive the Lord. The census and the taxation signify the soul’s bondage to and preoccupation in earthly human relationships and attachments and its engrossment with lucre. Let the aspirant beware of these two vital mistakes. Turning away inwardly from all pursuit of earthly wealth and overcoming all attachment, be thou ever fully receptive to the expression of the Divine Spirit within.

Beloved seekers, usher in now the real and spiritual Christmas within your being, become desireless. Conquer egoism. Become embodiments of true humility. Develop meekness and lowliness of spirit by humble surrender unto the Lord. Be courageous to overcome all obstacles. Joyously renounce mammon. Welcome the descent of the Light of Grace within. Rejoice in the advent of the Divine. Thus celebrate the Christmas that ultimately leads you on the glorious climax of Transfiguration, Resurrection and Ascension. Be crowned with Divine glory. Attain immortality, perfect freedom and be for ever steeped in infinite bliss. Through Christmas realise the Christ-consciousness and the radiant light of Atmic (divine) Wisdom. Amen.

General Discussion / Re: Christian quotes
« on: December 24, 2012, 06:52:07 PM »
Happy Birthday Hari and Christmas Greetings to you and your family .

First of all Sending Christmas Greetings to all the members here .
Here I am sharing a Christmas Message from Swami Sivananda .Though it is primarily addressed to the Western Disciples of Swami Sivananda who have take the path of Yoga and Divine Life ( i.e path of Divine Life Society , Rishikesh ) , the message is equally applicable to all .


Christmas Message

Beloved Children of the Christ!

The Holy Christmas approaches us all once again. On this sacred occasion, I send you my warmest greetings and my best wishes for the birth of Lord Jesus in your heart!

It is good to rejoice; it is good to feel and to radiate joy and happiness, especially on an occasion which marks the Coming of One Who pointed out to us the Way to Bliss. But, you who have taken up the Holy Yoga and who tread the Path of Divine Life, have a special responsibility. It is to meditate on Lord Jesus, recollect His Teachings and propagate by practice and precept His Life-giving Message.

Christ, Krishna, Buddha and Mohammed all lead us to the same gate that opens out into a Heaven of LOVE—a love that does not admit of hatred, even as the light in the sun knows no darkness. May Lord Jesus reveal Himself to you! May you become an embodiment of His Teachings! May you shine as a True Christian, a true and faithful descendant of the Lord! May the blessings of Lord Jesus be upon you!


General topics / Re: Azhwar Songs
« on: December 24, 2012, 09:45:20 AM »
Sri Atmavichar, I am referring from this link - If i find a better one, shall keep you updated, the commentary of some verses may not be universal.

Thanks Nagaraj for the link . It has word by word explanation for the pasurams .
Om Peace .

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