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General Discussion / Re: 139th Thaipoosam@Vadalur, Sun 27 Jan 2013
« on: January 27, 2013, 08:48:08 PM »
The place where Saint Ramalinga Swamigal stayed at the last days was
in a place called Karunguzhi.

Subramaniam Sir

Vallar last stated at Siddhi Valagham . He stayed in Karunguzhi in the earlier days .I have been to Siddhi Valagam and also seen Karunguzhi house as well as the big Sathya Gnana Sabai .

His Magnum Opus is Arut Perum Jyothi Aghaval which is 1506 lines of pure tamil and he composed it in a single night and the original written note book is still preserved in Vadalur and I have seen it when I visited there more than 10 years back .
Today Arut Perum Jyothi Aghaval is Chanted in all Vallalar Devotees house . In fact you have shared few lines of the same .
What is Arunachala Akshra Mana Malai to Bhagwan Ramana Devotees , Arut Perum Jyothi Asghaval is to Vallalar Devotees .
Vallar's poems are quite simple but have lot of depth . He uses simple words and there is an easy flow in his poems .Unlike Bhagwan Ramana's Tamil which is quite of a higher grade and tough , Vallalar's Tamil is more simple and he used soft words .

Vallalar is very close to me but expect for his path of compassion ,I could not much understand what exactly his philosophy was .  He moved away from Saiva Siddhantha and hence incurred the wrath of Traditional Saivites plus he also incurred the Wrath of Vedic Brahmins when he questioned the method of worship at Chidambaram Temple . So he moved beyond traditional Vedic Path also .

I cannot exactly say what his is exact philosophy though  the path of compassion and feeding the poor are the core of his teachings .

Om Peace .

General Discussion / Re: 139th Thaipoosam@Vadalur, Sun 27 Jan 2013
« on: January 27, 2013, 03:43:02 PM »
Dear atmavichar100,

I know about Thai Poosam is important in Vadalur for Jyoti darsanam, I had never been to Vadalur or seen the darsnam.

Thanks for useful information.

Arunachala Siva.

Subramaniam Sir

Thai Poosam is actually famous for Lord Subramanya and all Subramanya Temples have a festive look today and are fully crowded . But Vallalar's departure from Earth on Thai Possam day is considered very special and Vadalur will be very crowded today for "Jyothi" Darshan .
What is Karthiagai deepam Jyothi for Arunachala Devotees , Thai Poosam Jyothi is for Vallalar devotees .

General Discussion / 139th Thaipoosam@Vadalur, Sun 27 Jan 2013
« on: January 27, 2013, 03:19:52 PM »

Thaipoosam 2013 will be on 27th January.
The event starts on 26th of Jan 2013 with the hoisting of Sanmarga Flag.
Jothi Darshan will be on 27th & 28th Jan 2013.
Thiru Arai Darshan, the darshan of the room in which Swami Ramalinga Vallalar dematerialized his body will be on 29th of Jan 2013.

Following are the Jothi darshan Timings on 27th & 28th Jan:

27th Jan - 6:30 AM, 10 AM, 1PM, 7PM and 10 PM

28th Jan - 5:30 AM

Background of the event:

Thiru Arutprakasa Vallalar, Swami Ramalingam

The ArutperunJothi Ramalinga Adigalar, popularly known as VALLALAR, the Great Munificient, may be regarded as the foremost of the saints and ages of the nineteenth century, considering the heights, widths, depths and intimacies of his integral realisation of the Divine in all the "inmost, inner, outer, and the outermost parts of his being".

The VALLALAR was the one who affirmed openly and clearly in an unmistakable language the deathlessness of his body which he attained by the power of what he called "Arut Perum Joti", the Vast Grace-Light of the Divine which he identified as the Truth-Light of Knowledge, Satya Jnana Joti. HE who put before the people DEATHLESSNESS of body as an essential part of the realisation of the One blissful Divine. A saint whose very soul-stuff was made of infinite love and compassion, a sage of Truth - consciousness who possessed the divine knowledge and science of deathlessness of body and attained its deathless transformation along with the self creative power of creating all substances of whatever kind including bodily substances.

Of HIS six volumes of "Arutpa" , the poems of divine inspiration, the last volume is unparalleled in spiritual history as it gives expression to his realisation of the vast world of Truth-knowledge and the Beyond, and touches on subjects like transformation and deathlessness of body .

Besides, he was a critic, writer, publisher and commentator and also had knowledge in occultism, alchemy, astrology, and medicine particularly in the nutritional and medical values of herbs and leaves. He was a musician too with a keen musical taste for lyrical songs and he composed lyrics to express, in an easier and popular style, his highest and sublime realisations of the Divine, particularly that of Truth-consciousness (Satya Jnana).

Swami Ramalinga Vallalar transformed his physical body into triple bodies of Suddha Deham (Pure Body), Pranava Deham (Letter or Sound or Mantra Body) and Gnana Deham(Wisdom Light Body).

He finally dematerialized his body on the day of Thaipoosam, 30th January 1874.

To mark his dematerialization, the event is carried out every year.

General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: January 26, 2013, 10:04:46 PM »

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: January 24, 2013, 08:18:06 PM »

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: January 24, 2013, 01:11:27 PM »

Ashrams / Re: travel to Thiruvannamalai
« on: January 24, 2013, 12:48:22 PM »
Dear Subramanian sir, others

A naive question - is there anything specific that one can perform while in Thiruvannamalai that can help reduce the burden of Prarabdha Karma? In my understanding, Girivalam is the biggest and best resort. Any advice please?


Just do GiriValam chanting some names of Lord Shiva ( or the main Arunachala Siva Maha Mantra ), and spent quiet time before Bhawan's Samadhi ( go round the samadhi thrice ) and at the Old Meditation Hall and leave the rest to them .
The force that makes you come there will know how to take care of other things for you . Trust in that force and do what best you can and accept any result that comes as Ishwara's Prasada .
Have a great trip and come back spiritually refreshed .

Cautionary advice / Re: Beware -- a new type of auto fraud in Bangalore
« on: January 22, 2013, 04:45:49 PM »
For all Auto needs in Bangalore which are planned in advance please use Very reliable service. Just ensure you give 15 mins extra notice, as they invariable turn up 5-10 mins (not more) late - of course, traffic issues in Bangalore. But very nice service.


Thanks Sanjay for this useful info .

Humour / Re: Funny pictures,quotes,videos...
« on: January 22, 2013, 12:02:00 PM »

Cautionary advice / Re: Beware -- a new type of auto fraud in Bangalore
« on: January 22, 2013, 11:54:45 AM »
So,  next time,  please tender exact change to auto drivers.  If you dont have change,  use a torch light,  show him the amount in a loud voice and then only exchange.   Be very careful .  Other city people and foreigners who visit India.

Dear Kskat
It is not just in Bangalore , even in Chennai and other places these sort of things happen in very early morning or late night when there is poor visibility . I know of one lady who ended up giving Rs.500 instead of Rs.50/- .Best is for us to have exact change or better be bit magnanimous in giving a rounded figure to avoid the change problems i.e give Rs.50 instead of Rs.30 and Rs.100 instead of Rs.80/- .
It is good that u did not end up having your things robbed or stolen .Today apart from Jewels , Smart Phones , Laptops , High End Tablets ,Cameras ,Watches ,ATM /Credit Cards are also robbed /stolen . These happen not just in Bus standa but also in A/C Compartment in Trains and also in Domestic Flights with their Cabin luggage .Sometimes the culprits come as  co passengers or co passengers become culprits we do not know . So even A/C Compartment in Trains and Flights are no guarantee for absolute safety and we need to be careful at all places and also pray the almighty to enjoy a robbery free journey .

Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Re: Ribhu Gitai Tamil Mp3s
« on: January 22, 2013, 11:44:01 AM »
Yesterday i,e Mon 21 Jan 2013 I got the Ribhu Gita Tamil Version book from Sri Ramana Ashram by Courier post . Downloaded few audio files from their site and listened to a few clips and I love it .

Pointer -3


Two women came from Kumbakonam to meet Bhagavan. One of them was a guru and the other her disciple. They were leaving by train the same evening. In the afternoon the disciple brought her guru into the Hall and made an elaborate seat for her in front of Bhagavan. Every now and then the disciple would go up to Bhagavan's sofa and whisper. "In everything, she is just like you, Swami...she is in the same state as yourself.... Please let us have your blessings.... Will you teach us briefly the path of salvation? What is attachment? How to be free from Maya?" She was going on like this for quite a long time. Bhagavan never replied. Evening was nearing. The disciple felt hurt. "Swami, please instruct us...Swami, proceed with initiation quickly, it is getting late.... Be quick, Swami. You know we have to catch the train. Hurry!" The poor lady was getting desperate. "At least tell us something. They all speak of ignorance, what is ignorance?" Bhagavan turned to Muruganar and, in his mercy, said: "Ask her to inquire within. Who is ignorant?" Muruganar told them: "Now you go, your initiation is over." And they went away.

Bhagavan talked about it later: "Everything must be done in a hurry. Everybody has some train to catch. They visit Swami in a rush and want to carry away a parcel of liberation. They read something here and there and think they are quite learned." (Whenever there was a chance to snub our ego, Bhagavan would never miss it). He continued: "Before the people come here, everyone has the most sincere desire to work for his own liberation, but when they settle down, the ego goes to their heads and they forget why they came. They imagine they are doing me great service by feeding me and think altogether too much of themselves. The feeling of self-importance that they have when they serve their guru destroys their hope of enlightenment. Only humility can destroy the ego. The ego keeps you far away from God. The door to God is open, but the lintel is very low. To enter one has to bend.

- SHANTAMMA, in Ramana Smriti

Ashrams / Re: travel to Thiruvannamalai
« on: January 21, 2013, 09:17:42 AM »
Sanjay all the best for your maiden Arunachala trip .
Om Peace .

Dear Krishnan,

I could locate my copy of Enanthu NinaivugaL by Kunju Swami, the English translation is titled Living with the Master.

Kunju Swmi was born in Jan 1897 in a village between Palakkad and Chittoor (not Andhra Chittoor). He came to
Sri Bhagavan in 1920. He attained videha kaivalyam in August 1992, in his ninety fifth year.

Arunachala Siva.

Subramaniam Sir

At last the correct DOB of Kunju Swami was got and I know where the problem came . In the earlier link the DOB was wrongly given as 1887 and that made me wonder whether he lived for 105 years .Now I am clear that he was born in 1897 and he lived for 95 years .

General topics / Re: Subrahmanya Bhujangam by Adi Sankara
« on: January 19, 2013, 08:15:09 PM »
Thanks Subramaniam Sir for posting this wonderful hymn by Adi Shankara .

I am giving below the youtube link for the same rendered by Bombay Sisters :

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