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General Discussion / Re: sandhyA vandanam - Discussion
« on: February 03, 2013, 08:11:48 PM »
dear Friends,
I have one query .As office goers we come very late say around 8 PM also.What is the latest time one can perform the evening Sandhyavandanam.
Anand .

Sandhya Vandanam is a Nitya Karma and ideal is to do it at the correct time but when you cant do it at the correct time the rule is : better late than never .

As an alternative to Sandhya Vandanam I feel one can Chant Aditya Hridyam daily twice ad it can be done while traveling also as the Sun God is always visible and all u need is to look at the sun in the morning and evening and chant Aditya Hridyam .

General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: January 28, 2013, 05:31:10 PM »
Dear Atmavichar,
         :) So nice. But by far, have you not come across Swamiji's views on Karma and Jnana ?



Swamiji's views is same as Adi Shankara's views only but I do not want to quote bits and pieces here with my half baked knowledge on Gita . I have kept a program of dedicated  study of Gita and once I complete it ,I will share the same here .
In fact Swami Paramarthananda said when studying Gita , keep your mouth shut   :) and do not jump with counter questions but note it down in a separate note book and keep attending the classes regularly and then after 18 chapters are over see how many of your questions are still unanswered and after the sharavanam of Gita is over then ask your questions and counter questions for mananam .
In fact he said study the Gita twice as the first time one can understand the message only superficially and the next time only one will understand the message in depth . Right now I am only in the first stage and still long way to go  :)
But anyway for my own self enrichment and clarity I am making notes of Swamiji's Class and will share here ( or in my blog ) later once I complete first 6 chapters in depth .
Om Peace

General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: January 28, 2013, 12:22:32 PM »
Dear Atmavichar,
        :) If you have heard till chapter 3, that should have already clarified the role of "Karma" and "Jnana" and also cleared the common mistakes abt bhakti, karma, jnana and yoga being 4 ways to God :D


Actually I started attending from Ch-4 ( missed a few classes in between ) but beauty of Swami Paramarthananda is that he keeps regularly summarizing and always refers to previous chapters to explain the context of the current chapter under study . Though I missed previous 3 chapters , I have the audio of the same and will keep listening to it side by side . In the past I did listen to Swami Paramarthananda's talks but I just listened to it without serious self study and reflection and I listened to it in bits and pieces without serious commitment .This time I have decided to study the Complete Bhagawad Gita in all seriousness and my primary focus will be on Swami Paramartha's talks and will use Bhagwad Gita Home Study course as an additional reference . While the word  "study" will point to a sort of academic approach to self knowledge ,I consider it not just an academic  study but a sort of Jnana Yoga Satsangh . For me Swamiji's talks are not just on Gita but he talks a lot about other aspects of life and Sanathana Dharma that I feel equally enriching .
I thoroughly enjoy his talks and I hope this time I maintain my commitment to serious study and reflection of the Gita .Bhagwan Ramana has made a brilliant selection of 42 essential verses of Gita and I keep studying them side by side along with the regular study of Gita .

General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: January 28, 2013, 11:20:24 AM »
no one in this forum has , by far, shown any interest to take shankara bhasyam and see what is being said in this regard.

I have taken the step in that direction by attending Swami Paramarthananda's  Bhagwad Gita Lectures   :) which are based on Shankara Bhashyam and right now he has started Chapter -5 and  I need to wait till all the 18 Chapters are complete to get a fairly good insight in to Self Knowledge /Self Enquiry .  :)

General Discussion / Re: 139th Thaipoosam@Vadalur, Sun 27 Jan 2013
« on: January 27, 2013, 08:48:08 PM »
The place where Saint Ramalinga Swamigal stayed at the last days was
in a place called Karunguzhi.

Subramaniam Sir

Vallar last stated at Siddhi Valagham . He stayed in Karunguzhi in the earlier days .I have been to Siddhi Valagam and also seen Karunguzhi house as well as the big Sathya Gnana Sabai .

His Magnum Opus is Arut Perum Jyothi Aghaval which is 1506 lines of pure tamil and he composed it in a single night and the original written note book is still preserved in Vadalur and I have seen it when I visited there more than 10 years back .
Today Arut Perum Jyothi Aghaval is Chanted in all Vallalar Devotees house . In fact you have shared few lines of the same .
What is Arunachala Akshra Mana Malai to Bhagwan Ramana Devotees , Arut Perum Jyothi Asghaval is to Vallalar Devotees .
Vallar's poems are quite simple but have lot of depth . He uses simple words and there is an easy flow in his poems .Unlike Bhagwan Ramana's Tamil which is quite of a higher grade and tough , Vallalar's Tamil is more simple and he used soft words .

Vallalar is very close to me but expect for his path of compassion ,I could not much understand what exactly his philosophy was .  He moved away from Saiva Siddhantha and hence incurred the wrath of Traditional Saivites plus he also incurred the Wrath of Vedic Brahmins when he questioned the method of worship at Chidambaram Temple . So he moved beyond traditional Vedic Path also .

I cannot exactly say what his is exact philosophy though  the path of compassion and feeding the poor are the core of his teachings .

Om Peace .

General Discussion / Re: 139th Thaipoosam@Vadalur, Sun 27 Jan 2013
« on: January 27, 2013, 03:43:02 PM »
Dear atmavichar100,

I know about Thai Poosam is important in Vadalur for Jyoti darsanam, I had never been to Vadalur or seen the darsnam.

Thanks for useful information.

Arunachala Siva.

Subramaniam Sir

Thai Poosam is actually famous for Lord Subramanya and all Subramanya Temples have a festive look today and are fully crowded . But Vallalar's departure from Earth on Thai Possam day is considered very special and Vadalur will be very crowded today for "Jyothi" Darshan .
What is Karthiagai deepam Jyothi for Arunachala Devotees , Thai Poosam Jyothi is for Vallalar devotees .

General Discussion / 139th Thaipoosam@Vadalur, Sun 27 Jan 2013
« on: January 27, 2013, 03:19:52 PM »

Thaipoosam 2013 will be on 27th January.
The event starts on 26th of Jan 2013 with the hoisting of Sanmarga Flag.
Jothi Darshan will be on 27th & 28th Jan 2013.
Thiru Arai Darshan, the darshan of the room in which Swami Ramalinga Vallalar dematerialized his body will be on 29th of Jan 2013.

Following are the Jothi darshan Timings on 27th & 28th Jan:

27th Jan - 6:30 AM, 10 AM, 1PM, 7PM and 10 PM

28th Jan - 5:30 AM

Background of the event:

Thiru Arutprakasa Vallalar, Swami Ramalingam

The ArutperunJothi Ramalinga Adigalar, popularly known as VALLALAR, the Great Munificient, may be regarded as the foremost of the saints and ages of the nineteenth century, considering the heights, widths, depths and intimacies of his integral realisation of the Divine in all the "inmost, inner, outer, and the outermost parts of his being".

The VALLALAR was the one who affirmed openly and clearly in an unmistakable language the deathlessness of his body which he attained by the power of what he called "Arut Perum Joti", the Vast Grace-Light of the Divine which he identified as the Truth-Light of Knowledge, Satya Jnana Joti. HE who put before the people DEATHLESSNESS of body as an essential part of the realisation of the One blissful Divine. A saint whose very soul-stuff was made of infinite love and compassion, a sage of Truth - consciousness who possessed the divine knowledge and science of deathlessness of body and attained its deathless transformation along with the self creative power of creating all substances of whatever kind including bodily substances.

Of HIS six volumes of "Arutpa" , the poems of divine inspiration, the last volume is unparalleled in spiritual history as it gives expression to his realisation of the vast world of Truth-knowledge and the Beyond, and touches on subjects like transformation and deathlessness of body .

Besides, he was a critic, writer, publisher and commentator and also had knowledge in occultism, alchemy, astrology, and medicine particularly in the nutritional and medical values of herbs and leaves. He was a musician too with a keen musical taste for lyrical songs and he composed lyrics to express, in an easier and popular style, his highest and sublime realisations of the Divine, particularly that of Truth-consciousness (Satya Jnana).

Swami Ramalinga Vallalar transformed his physical body into triple bodies of Suddha Deham (Pure Body), Pranava Deham (Letter or Sound or Mantra Body) and Gnana Deham(Wisdom Light Body).

He finally dematerialized his body on the day of Thaipoosam, 30th January 1874.

To mark his dematerialization, the event is carried out every year.

General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: January 26, 2013, 10:04:46 PM »

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: January 24, 2013, 08:18:06 PM »

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: January 24, 2013, 01:11:27 PM »

Ashrams / Re: travel to Thiruvannamalai
« on: January 24, 2013, 12:48:22 PM »
Dear Subramanian sir, others

A naive question - is there anything specific that one can perform while in Thiruvannamalai that can help reduce the burden of Prarabdha Karma? In my understanding, Girivalam is the biggest and best resort. Any advice please?


Just do GiriValam chanting some names of Lord Shiva ( or the main Arunachala Siva Maha Mantra ), and spent quiet time before Bhawan's Samadhi ( go round the samadhi thrice ) and at the Old Meditation Hall and leave the rest to them .
The force that makes you come there will know how to take care of other things for you . Trust in that force and do what best you can and accept any result that comes as Ishwara's Prasada .
Have a great trip and come back spiritually refreshed .

Cautionary advice / Re: Beware -- a new type of auto fraud in Bangalore
« on: January 22, 2013, 04:45:49 PM »
For all Auto needs in Bangalore which are planned in advance please use Very reliable service. Just ensure you give 15 mins extra notice, as they invariable turn up 5-10 mins (not more) late - of course, traffic issues in Bangalore. But very nice service.


Thanks Sanjay for this useful info .

Humour / Re: Funny pictures,quotes,videos...
« on: January 22, 2013, 12:02:00 PM »

Cautionary advice / Re: Beware -- a new type of auto fraud in Bangalore
« on: January 22, 2013, 11:54:45 AM »
So,  next time,  please tender exact change to auto drivers.  If you dont have change,  use a torch light,  show him the amount in a loud voice and then only exchange.   Be very careful .  Other city people and foreigners who visit India.

Dear Kskat
It is not just in Bangalore , even in Chennai and other places these sort of things happen in very early morning or late night when there is poor visibility . I know of one lady who ended up giving Rs.500 instead of Rs.50/- .Best is for us to have exact change or better be bit magnanimous in giving a rounded figure to avoid the change problems i.e give Rs.50 instead of Rs.30 and Rs.100 instead of Rs.80/- .
It is good that u did not end up having your things robbed or stolen .Today apart from Jewels , Smart Phones , Laptops , High End Tablets ,Cameras ,Watches ,ATM /Credit Cards are also robbed /stolen . These happen not just in Bus standa but also in A/C Compartment in Trains and also in Domestic Flights with their Cabin luggage .Sometimes the culprits come as  co passengers or co passengers become culprits we do not know . So even A/C Compartment in Trains and Flights are no guarantee for absolute safety and we need to be careful at all places and also pray the almighty to enjoy a robbery free journey .

Tripura Rahasya and other ancient works / Re: Ribhu Gitai Tamil Mp3s
« on: January 22, 2013, 11:44:01 AM »
Yesterday i,e Mon 21 Jan 2013 I got the Ribhu Gita Tamil Version book from Sri Ramana Ashram by Courier post . Downloaded few audio files from their site and listened to a few clips and I love it .

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