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General topics / Re: Is Jnaan through sadhana or study of scriptures?
« on: March 15, 2013, 12:03:31 PM »
According to scriptures when they are highly purified they reach a "Brahma Lokha" and having reached there, they learn this truth from Brahman and then find liberation there. This is one view.

According to Swami Paramarthananda ,even if one goes to Brahma Loka ,one  has to get Brahma Vidya from Brahma and the Guru Student relationship has to be maintained and there is no escape from that  there also and hence better to get Brahma Vidya in earth itself  under a proper Guru  :)

General topics / Re: Is Jnaan through sadhana or study of scriptures?
« on: March 15, 2013, 09:13:49 AM »
Dear Kskat

Though you have addressed the question to Tushnim/Udai , I feel if you go through this link you will get some clarity to the doubts raised by you .

Given below is an excerpt from the auto biography of Swami Chaitanyananda , a Senior Direct Disciple of Swami Sivananda , who is not known much to the outside world as he maintained lot of seclusion in Uttarkashi ,Himalayas  after spending time at Sivananda Ashram ,Rishikesh and also doing Scriptural Study with Swami Tapovan .He was one of the few people  along with Swami Chinmayananda selected by Swami Sivananda to study the scriptures with Swami Tapovan in the Hiamalays . While Chinmaya came outside and started lot of Institutions to spread Vedanta world wide , Swami Chaitanyananda choose to remain in seclusion in Uttar Kashi and gave spiritual instructions and talks to only those people who came to him .
He was in the Himalayas for nearly 50 years or so and came back to the plains only in 1998 ( except for some spiritual yatra  in between where he travelled to many spiritual spots including Arunacahala etc)  and I was fortunate to meet him , get his blessings and had good personal talk with him during that time ( i.e in 1998-99) when I went for doing the Yoga Teachers Training Course at the Sivananda Yoga Vedanta Ashram in Neyyar Dam , Kerala .
So kindly go through this link below and I am sure you will have many of your doubts cleared .
Teachings (Excerpts from Chapter 7 of Swamiji's memoirs)

General topics / Re: Swami Chinmayananda collections from archive
« on: March 14, 2013, 10:50:46 AM »
Another link to download Swami Chinmayananda's Audio Talks :


    Bhaja Govindam

    Bhagavadh Gita

    Kaivalya Upanishad

    Mandokya Upanishad

    Narada Bhakthi Sutra

    Sadhana Panchakam

    Science of Sprituality (1976 Video)

    Vakya Vriti

General topics / Re: Be a sugar cube, eat a sugar cube?
« on: March 12, 2013, 01:36:12 PM »
Swami Paramarthananda is a favorite, I believe, for some of our forum members.

With regard to understanding Advaita Texts for me Swami Paramarthananda is the most favorite one .I love listening to his talks and attend his Sunday Gita Satsangs . I love also his clear and correct pronunciation of various Vedantic Texts and Stotras and in fact have developed an interest in Sanskrit Chanting after listening to his Chants and keeping it as my daily Sadhana .
Here is a link to download Swami Paramarthananda's audio lectures :

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 11, 2013, 10:12:04 PM »

General topics / Re: Man's lower nature , prakrithi , maya and Self.
« on: March 11, 2013, 05:31:30 PM »

The following youtube video on Nirvana Shaktman by Isha Music is very excellent and motivating
Nirvana Shatakam By Isha

Maha Shivaratri – The Great Night of Lord Shiva

    Maha Shivaratri is an important Hindu festival which is celebrated throughout the world with grand valor. Shivaratri, night of Lord Shiva is celebrated on the 13th or the 14th night of the new moon during Krishna Paksha in the Hindu month of Phalgun and it usually falls in February – March.

    Shivaratri has tremendous importance in Hinduism. Worshipping Lord Shiva on Shivaratri pleases lord the most. According to sacred scriptures, a devotee who worships Lord sincerely on this auspicious day is absolved of sins and attains Moksha. So, Hindu devotees all over the world celebrate it with utmost faith and galore.

    Maha Shivaratri – The Great Night of Lord Shiva


    During Shivaratri, devotees stay awake all night chanting the name of Lord Shiva. There are a number of popular legends related to this custom. Though the reasons behind worship vary, the motive is one, to “make Lord Shiva happy”.
    It is believed that on this day, Lord Shiva married Parvathi. Goddess Parvathi performed prayers on this auspicious day for well being of her husband. On this auspicious day, married women pray for the well being of their husband and children while unmarried women pray for an ideal partner. It is also believed that on this night, Lord Shiva performed the Tandav Nritya.

    Another popular legend associated with Maha Shivaratri is that of the Samudra Manthan or churning of the ocean. This explains why people stay awake all the night on Shivaratri. When devtas and asuras joined hands for the mythical samudra manthan, a pot of poison came out of the ocean. It was powerful poison and on the request of the Gods, Lord Shiva drank the poison and held it in his throat. The potent poison changed the color of His neck. That’s why Lord Shiva is also called Neelakantha. As part of the therapy, Lord Shiva was advised to awaken during the night. In an effort to keep Him awake, the Gods performed dances and played music. Pleased with their devotion, Lord Shiva blessed them all. Thus, Shivaratri is celebrated as the day when Lord Shiva saved the universe.

    Legend of Shivalinga is another popular fable associated with Shivaratri. According to the story, Brahma and Vishnu searched hard to discover the Aadi (beginning) and the Antha (end) of Lord Shiva. On this auspicious night, Lord Shiva manifested himself in the form of linga to reveal that there is no beginning or end to his being.

    Legend of Ganga is another popular legend. As per this story, on this day, Holy River Ganga descended from the heavens to earth with full force and Lord Shiva held out his thick matted hair to the river Ganga and the meandering through Shiva’s lock softened Ganga’s journey to the earth.

    Many stories are associated with the Maha Shivaratri festival. The most famous story is of the hunter. A hunter unknowingly dropped bael leaves on Shivalinga and attained Moksha. While hunting in the forest, Suswara the hunter shot a deer but could not return home as night fell on the forest. O pass the night, he climbed a bael tree. He kept awake whole night because of hunger and thirst. He shed tears thinking about his wife and children who would starve without food. To divert his mind, he engaged himself in plucking bael leaves and dropping them.

    This was happened on Shivaratri. There had been a Shiva Lignum under the tree and unknowingly, he worshipped Lord Shiva all the night. Moreover, he had fasted all day and night. Thus he received salvation. This fable was narrated by, Bhishma, discoursing on Dharma whilst resting on the bed of arrows while referring to the observance of Mahashivaratri by King Chitrabhanu. King Chitrabhanu of the Iksvaku dynasty was the hunter, Suswara, in his previous birth.

    Shivaratri in India

    Hindu devotees from across the country celebrated Maha Shivaratri with ritual bathing and prayers. Many devotees observe a strict fast on this day. Night long Shivarathri vigil is celebrated by singing hymns and songs on lord Shiva and devotees break fast only in the following morning by consuming Prasad offered to the lord.

    On this auspicious day, devotees throng Shiva temples. In the north, devotees can perform the Shivalinga Pooja. First they circumambulate the Shivalinga, three or seven times, and then pour water over it. Some also pour milk. Sounds of bells and shouts of ‘Shankarji ki Jai’ or (Hail Shiva) reverberate in the temple premises.

    Some of the famous Lord Shiva temples in India include Kashi Vishwanath Temple in Uttar Pradesh, Kedarnath Temple in Uttarakhand, Amarnath Temple in Jammu and Kashmir, Somnath Temple in Gujarat, Lingaraj Temple in Bhubaneshwar Orissa, Murudeshwar Temple in Karnataka, Srikalahasti Temple and Srisailam Temple in Andhra Pradesh and Ramanathaswamy Temple in Rameswaram.

    In temples, throughout the night, Shivalinga is worshipped and every three hours, shivalingam is given a special abhisheka with milk, yogurt, honey, sandalwood paste and rose water. Chanting of “Om Namah Shivaya” accompany the Pooja. After ritual bath, Shivalinga is decorated with garlands especially with Bilwa leaves. Bael leaves are considered very sacred and it is said that Goddess Lakshmi resides in them.

    Shiva Mahimna Stotra" of Pushpadanta or Ravana's "Shiva Tandava Stotra on various hymns in praise of Lord Shiva is sung with great devotion and fervor. It is believed that who utters the Panchakshara mantra during Shivarathri with full devotion is freed from all sins.

    “Om Hara Hara Mahadevaa”

Many people believe that Sri Ra Ganapathy who close to only Sri Kanchi Maha Swamigal , while it is true that he was very close to Kanchi Mahaswamigal , later  in his life Ra Ganapathy who absorbed in contemplating Bhagwan Ramana .He has also written 2 volumes on Bhagwan Ramana's life .

‘தெய்வத்தின் குரல்’ ரா.கணபதியின் மறைவையொட்டி அவரைப் பற்றிய தன்னுடைய நினைவுகளைப் பகிர்ந்துகொள்கிறார் எழுத்தாளர் பாலகுமாரன்.

”படித்திருக்கிறேன் பகவான்!””பால்குமார் ‘தெய்வத்தின் குரல்’ படித்திருக்கிறாயா?” – என் குருநாதர் யோகி ராம்சுரத்குமார் கேட்டார்.

ஆறாவது பாகம் மங்களாரம்பம் படித்திருக்கிறாயா? அது ரொம்ப முக்கியம். பலமுறை படித்து மனதில் இருத்திக்கொள்வது அவசியம்!”

அன்று பலமுறை இதையே என் குருநாதர் யோகி ராம்சுரத்குமார் சொல்லிக்கொண்டு இருந்தார். ஏதோ ஒரு முறை கேட்டுவிட்டு, முடிந்தால் படி என்கிற விஷயம் இல்லை என்பதை என்னுள் இறக்குவதற்காக உள்ளே சொற்களை வேகமாக ஆணி அடித்துக்கொண்டு இருந்தார்.

நான் படிப்பதாக வாக்களித்தேன்.

”பால்குமார், ஸ்ரீ ரா.கணபதியை அறிவாயா?”

”இல்லை பகவான்!”

”ஸ்ரீ ஆச்சார்யாள் சொன்னதை உள் வாங்கி, வாக்கியப் பிழை ஏதும் இன்றி அதை எழுத்தாக்கி, அச்சாகியதைச் சரி பார்த்து ஸ்ரீ ரா.கணபதி கொடுத்து   இருக்கிறார். இது மகத்தான பணி. ஒரு தபஸ்வியினால்தான் இந்தப் பணியைச் செய்ய முடியும். ஸ்ரீ ரா.கணபதி ஒரு தபஸ்வி. சென்னை போனால் அவரைச் சந்திக்கப் போ… அவருக்கு இந்தப் பிச்சைக்காரனின் மரியாதையைத் தெரிவித்துவிடு.”

நான் குருவின் கட்டளையை உடனே நிறைவேற்றினேன்.

நான் யோகி ராம்சுரத்குமாரின் அன்பைச் சொல்ல, ஸ்ரீ ரா.கணபதி தாமரையாக மலர்ந்தார். ”இது வெறும் நார். பூவால் மணக்கறது. ஞானிகள் ஆசீர்வாதம் கிடைக்கிறது.”

ஸ்ரீ கணபதி என்னைவிட வயதுஅதிகம், படிப்பில் உயர்வு, கல்வி கேள்விகளின் ஞானம். ஆயினும் அது குழந்தை உள்ளம்.

ஆறு ஏழு முறை சந்தித்தேன். பிறகு இடம் மாறினார். விட்டுப் போயிற்று. ஆனால், மனசுக்குள் அவர் குரல் பதிந்து போயிற்று. அவரை  ’நத்திங்’ என்று சொன்ன உபன்யாசிகளை எனக்குத் தெரியும். ஆனால், அவர் செய்த சாதனையில் நூறில் ஒரு பங்குகூட செய்ய இயலாதவர்கள் அவர்கள்.

அவர் இறந்த இடத்தில் அறையில் யோகி ராம்சுரத்குமார் படங்கள் பலதும் இருந்தன. பெரிய படமாக பகவான் ஸ்ரீ ரமணருடையது இருந்தது. சமயச் சடங்குகள் நிறைந்த மடத்தின் அதிபதி மகா பெரியவாளை வணங்கி அணுக்கமானவராக இருந்தாலும், பகவான் ரமணருள் ஸ்ரீ ரா.கணபதி லயித்து இருக்கிறார். அவர் வாழ்வுப் பாதை அவர் குருவால் சரியான திசை நோக்கி போயிருக்கிறது. சரியான இலக்கை அடைந்திருக்கிறது!

–நன்றி விகடன்

தொடர்புடைய பதிவு:

Arunachala / Re: happy shivraatri
« on: March 10, 2013, 01:41:25 PM »
Praying for the blessings of Bhagwan Ramana and Lord Shiva on the auspicious day of Maha Shivarathri .

Today i.e Sun 10 march is Maha Shiva Rathri and last year during Shiva Rathri Sri Ra Ganapathi attained Mukti and I felt it worthy to remember him for the wonderful contributions he made in the spiritual field in the form of his excellent spiritual books .

Shri Ra Ganapathi attained Mukti at 7:25 p.m. on Feb 20th 2012 on the auspicious Maha Shivaratri evening.
He was very conscious at the moment of his passing, and started a japam as he started on his way. He had been well aware of the forthcoming end and had shared it with people close to him. In a letter written earlier in the day he said he saw mukti devta spreading the red carpet for him. Shri Ganapati will live through his works, continuing the mission of carrying the Voice of Divinity to reach far beyond his times

He was keenly devoted to Maha Swamigal, Sri Chandrasekhara Bharathi Maha Swamigal of Sringeri,Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi, Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Sri Satya Sai Baba and Yogi Ramsuratkumar. He was a keen proponent of Aikya or Unity among the various Sankara Mathas. He used to call the Mahaswamigal, Sri Chandrasekhara Bharathi Maha Swamigal and Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi as the Advaita Triumvirate of the 20th century.

Despite his extensive knowledge of wide-ranging topics, incisive analytical ability, sharp intellect and brilliant writing skills, he never wrote on subjects other than in the spiritual domain. Shri Ganapati never coveted any fame or material possessions, and spurned offers to write film scripts or pursue other lucrative avenues. He was quick to dispense with his royalty earnings to charitable institutions, and espoused the cause of charity as a living example, giving to the needy through regular contributions. He lived a simple life of austerity and prayers, exuding love and affection, and enquiring caringly after the well-being of all who came to meet him .

He merged with the Absolute on Maha Sivarathri day, chanting the Naama till the end. What greater example of Mukhthi, there could be?

Deivathin Kural ( Voice of God )

The most outstanding of his works, which can be truly acclaimed as his Life and Mission, was Deivathin kural, a seven-volume, 6000+ page treasure trove of knowledge on Hindu dharma, which took the Shri Kanchi Maha Periyava's teachings to thousands across the globe. A wealth of information that touches upon disciplines covering science, arts, literature, sociology and religion, these volumes never cease to amaze the readers who vouch by it as illuminating and even life-transforming.

The following is the reply I got from David Godman on how Bhagwan Ramana conducted himself during Shivarathri and what was his Upadesa

I don't know how Sivaratri was celebrated in Bhagavan's day. There are very few mentions of the day, so I am assuming that there were few extra events beyond the usual scheduled ones. There is, of course, the famous occasion in 1923 when Bhagavan was asked to speak about Dakshinamurti's silent teachings on a Sivaratri evening. He responded by keeping quiet, and by keeping everyone's mind completely silent and sleep-free all night. I think there were five people present that night, including Ramaswami Pillai. I remember talking to him about this Sivaratri blessing in the 1980s, and he was still moved by this ex-pression of Bhagavan's power and grace some sixty years after it manifested.

Best Wishes    David Godman

General Discussion / Awesome Conversation between God And a Man. ♥
« on: March 07, 2013, 09:31:23 AM »

Awesome Conversation between God And a
Man. ♥

Man: God, can I ask You a question?

God: Sure

Man: Promise You won’t get mad …

God: I promise

Man: Why did You let so much stuff happen to
me today?

God: What do u mean?

Man: Well, I woke up late

God: Yes

Man: My car took forever to start

God: Okay

Man: at lunch they made my sandwich wrong
& I had to wait

God: Huummm

Man: On the way home, my phone went DEAD,
just as I picked up a call

God: All right

Man: And on top of it all off, when I got home
~I just want to soak my feet in my new foot
massager & relax. BUT it wouldn’t work!!!
Nothing went right today! Why did You do

God: Let me see, the death angel was at your
bed this morning & I had to send one of My
Angels to battle him for your life. I let you
sleep through that

Man (humbled): OH

GOD: I didn’t let your car start because there
was a drunk driver on your route that would
have hit you if you were on the road.

Man: (ashamed)

God: The first person who made your sandwich
today was sick & I didn’t want you to catch
what they have, I knew you couldn’t afford to
miss work.

Man (embarrassed): Okay

God: Your phone went dead bcuz the person
that was calling was going to give false
witness about what you said on that call, I
didn’t even let you talk to them so you would
be covered.

Man (softly): I see God

God: Oh and that foot massager, it had a
shortage that was going to throw out all of the
power in your house tonight. I didn’t think you
wanted to be in the dark.

Man: I’m Sorry God

God: Don’t be sorry, just learn to Trust Me…. in
All things , the Good & the bad.

Man: I will trust You.

God: And don’t doubt that My plan for your
day is Always Better than your plan.

Man: I won’t God. And let me just tell you God,
Thank You for Everything today.

God: You’re welcome child. It was just another
day being your God and I Love looking after
My Children…

Don't forget to share with your friends..

General topics / Re: Detailed history of Shri Nisarghadatta maharaj:
« on: March 05, 2013, 10:32:58 AM »
For those interested in teachings of Ranjit Maharaj , here is a link to the same called "The Way of the bird" in the form of a free PDF .
The Way Of The Bird - Quotations of Ranjit Maharaj -Commentaries by Andrew Vernon

General Discussion / Re: Divine poetry and thoughts
« on: March 04, 2013, 06:58:26 PM »
My humble opinion again - many times we discuss about who is a jnani. I think this is a futile discussion. A person writing beautiful poetry may or may not be a jnani. How does it matter to us? How can we be judges of it?

In Vibhuthi yoga terminology  - in beautiful poetry and poet - see me in action. In best dancers, see me in action. In best of the best singers - see me in action. When HE transcends everything - how can mental activity and dance and poetry be outside of it?



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