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Yes Subramaniam Sir

Bhagavan Ramana and Adi Shankara had the same teachings only that Adi Shankara came at a time when Sanatana Dharma was in shambles both in form and spirit and he had to revive it back both in form and spirit and hence apart from writing commentaries on Upanishads , Gita and Brahmasutra he composed various Divine Hymns in praise of various deities all over India , installed Sri Chakra at important Shakti Peetas , established Shankara Mutts at 4 corners of India for propagation of Sanathana Dharma .

Adi Shankara composed a Hymn called Kaupina Panchakam and the meaning of the same completely matches with how Bhagavan Ramana lived .
Kaupina Panchakam and Bhagavan Ramana Maharishi
Koupina Panchakam, a short composition by Adi Sankara is a beautiful stotram on the glory of a sanyasi established in the Self, wearing only a kaupina (loin cloth) and living on alms. This composition applies so well to Bhagavan Ramana Maharishi.

The dispassionate one wearing a piece of loin cloth — who is roaming in the thoughts of Vedanta (Upanishad), who is satisfied by a meagre portion of begged-food, who is meditating in his inner-self without grief — is indeed blessed.1

The dispassionate one wearing a piece of loin cloth — who is sitting at the roots of a tree, who is eating unmeasured (meagre) food with his two hands, and who is disregarding wealth like a patched-cloth — is indeed blessed.2

The dispassionate one wearing a piece of loin cloth — who is elating and satisfying in his own thoughts, who is keeping quiet and curbing his sensual desires, and who is roaming day and night in the thoughts of Brahman — is indeed blessed.3

The dispassionate one wearing a piece of loin cloth — who is witnessing his body changes, who is seeing self as the aatman, and who is not remembering either the end, or the middle, or the outside one — is indeed blessed.4

The dispassionate one wearing a piece of loin cloth — who is reciting the Brahma-syllable, who is is existing with the thought ‘I am Brahman’, and who is wandering in directions for alms — is indeed blessed.5

-Adi Shankaracharya-

General topics / Today( Wed 15 May 2013 ) is Adi Shankara jayanti,
« on: May 15, 2013, 11:02:54 AM »

Today( Wed 15 May 2013 ) is Adi Shankara jayanti,the birth anniversary of Sri Adi Shankaracharya

Sri Adi Sankaracharya was born twelve centuries ago on a Sunday, on Shukla-Panchami day in the month of Vaishakha as per the Indian calendar. The parents (Sivaguru and Aryamba), named him Shankara (शं करोति इति शङ्कर/ śaṁ karoti iti Śaṅkara, i.e. bestower of auspiciousness) in grateful remembrance of Lord Shiva's grace and blessings because of which they begot this child.

The child had divine signs on the body, which are described thus:

मूर्धनि हिमकर चिह्नं निटिले नडनाडकं अंसयोः शूलम्।
वपुषे स्फटिकसवर्णं प्राज्ञास्तं मनिरे शंभुम्॥

mūrdhani himakara cihnaṁ niṭile naḍanāḍakaṁ aṁsayoḥ śūlam,
vapuṣe sphaṭikasavarṇaṁ prājñāstaṁ manire śaṁbhum.

“The learned and the wise saw the brilliance of the moon on his head; on his forehead the sign of the divine eye; his shoulder had the impress of the trident; his body was resplendent like crystal; verily, he looked like Śaṁbhu (Lord Shiva) Himself – walking in the world in human form.”

Speaking of the glory of Sri Sankaracharya, Swami Chinmayananda says:

“Sankara is not an individual. To the students of the Advaita philosophy, Sankara is an institution. No single person could ever have achieved what he achieved in his short span of life.

It is into a chaotic intellectual atmosphere that Sankara brought his life-giving philosophy of the Non-dual Brahman of the Upanishad. He showed himself to be a great organiser, a far sighted diplomat, a courageous hero and a tireless servant of the country. Selfless and unassuming, this mighty angel strode up and down the length and breadth of the country serving his motherland and teaching his countrymen to live up to the dignity and glory of Bharat. Such a vast programme can neither be accomplished by an individual nor sustained without institutions of great discipline and perfect organisation. Establishing the mathas, opening temples, organising halls of education, and even prescribing certain ecclesiastical codes – this mighty Master left nothing in maintaining what he achieved.

The more we adore him, not as a divine incarnation but as a sincere man inspired to serve the country and reconquer the nation from its slavery to alien ideologies – the more we shall successfully pay our tribute to our own culture.”

Today, on the occasion of Sri Sankaracharya's Jayanti (birth) day – let us offer our prostrations to this great Master of Advaita with the following shloka:

श्रुति-स्मृति-पुराणानाम् आलयं करुणालयम्।
नमामि भगवत्पादं शङ्करं लोकशङ्करम्॥

śruti-smṛti-purāṇānām ālayaṁ karuṇālayam,
namāmi bhagavatpādaṁ śaṅkaraṁ lokaśaṅkaram.

I salute Adi Sankaracharya, the abode of the Sruti (Vedas), Smrti (Gita etc.) and Puranas, the repository of compassion, one who is revered and the one who gives happiness to the world.

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Different ways of Bhagavan's replies

When talking about Bhagavan and the various things that he said, there will always appear contradictions in his teachings, but this is solely because he had to speak from two points of view. His real teaching, which never wavered, was that there is nothing but the SELF. He saw everything as just That and nothing else. But most people were unable to accept this. They wanted it to be expanded, so some explanations were necessary and to make such explanations he had to speak from the questioner's limited point of view.

~ Sadhu Arunachala (Alan Chadwick)

...from: `A Sadhu's Reminiscences of Ramana Maharshi’

Here is the thread where you can discuss about what you read here :
It is called Pointers from Bhagwan - For Discussion

I have to confess that I am still only operating from a ego level - yes, I am trying to cleanse my ego to be rid of negative thoughts and build chittha-shuddi. This requires conscious effort/contemplation as well as some form of surrender to guru. This contemplation/surrender has become part of me now. Still, self-enquiry for me is still only a theoretical way - even if I sit for 30-40 minutes, all I achieve is some quietness of mind and a short thoughtless state.


All we can do is to bring in more amount of Sattva in to our lives through various forms of Sadhana like Japa , Parayana , Puja , Study of scriptures , Satsangha , control of diet etc .Rest is grace of God and Guru to take us to the next stage .

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: May 08, 2013, 09:07:39 AM »
It is true that even in the beginning of sadhana everything happens by God’s Grace. But during those times the JivAtmA was engaged in self-purification and for that to happen well God’s Grace helped. But now the purification task has reasonably progressed. Now the purified antaH-karaNa (inner organ) has to reach step by step the state of experience. ‘Reach’ is really not the right thing; unusually instead of ‘reaching’, now it is ‘giving’. As Manickavachagar said, it is a smart trading. One gives up the JIva-bhAva and receives the ‘shiva-sthiti’ (the state of being the Absolute). But even this is only true in a poetic sense or in the sense of bhakti. In reality, there is no JIva who receives the ‘Shiva’. JIva is gone but Shiva remains!

Kanchi Paramacharya


Instructions are necessary only so long as one has not surrendered oneself.

~ Sri Ramana Maharshi

...from Talk 434; 28th December, 1937

Humour / Re: Funny pictures,quotes,videos...
« on: May 07, 2013, 12:35:07 PM »

From wikipedia about Bhagavan's final years and also about his samadhi .

Final years (1948-1950)

In November 1948, a tiny cancerous lump was found on Ramana's arm and was removed in February 1949 by the ashram's doctor. Soon, another growth appeared and another operation was done by an eminent surgeon in March 1949 with radium applied. The doctor told Ramana that a complete amputation of the arm to the shoulder was required to save his life, but he refused. A third and fourth operation were performed in August and December 1949, but only weakened him. Other systems of medicine were then tried; all proved fruitless and were stopped by the end of March when devotees gave up all hope. To devotees who begged him to cure himself for the sake of his followers, Ramana is said to have replied, "Why are you so attached to this body? Let it go" and "Where can I go? I am here."[10]

By April 1950, Ramana was too weak to go to the hall and visiting hours were limited. Visitors would file past the small room where he spent his final days to get one final glimpse. Swami Satyananda, the attendant at the time, reports,

    On the evening of 14 April 1950, we were massaging Ramana's body. At about 5 o'clock, he asked us to help him to sit up. Precisely at that moment devotees started chanting 'Arunachala Siva, Arunachala Siva'. When Ramana heard this his face lit up with radiant joy. Tears began to flow from his eyes and continued to flow for a long time. I was wiping them from time to time. I was also giving him spoonfuls of water boiled with ginger. The doctor wanted to administer artificial respiration but Ramana waved it away. Ramana’s breathing became gradually slower and slower and at 8:47 p.m. it subsided quietly.[citation needed]

Henri Cartier-Bresson, the French photographer, who had been staying at the ashram for a fortnight prior to Ramana’s death, recounted the event:

    "It is a most astonishing experience. I was in the open space in front of my house, when my friends drew my attention to the sky, where I saw a vividly-luminous shooting star with a luminous tail, unlike any shooting star I had before seen, coming from the South, moving slowly across the sky and, reaching the top of Arunachala, disappeared behind it. Because of its singularity we all guessed its import and immediately looked at our watches – it was 8:47 – and then raced to the Ashram only to find that our premonition had been only too sadly true: the Master had passed into parinirvana at that very minute." Ramana Maharshi was 71 years old at the time of his death.[43]

Cartier-Bresson took some of the last photographs of Ramana on April 4, 1950, and went on to take pictures of the mahasamadhi preparations. The New York Times concluded:

    Here in India, where thousands of so-called holy men claim close tune with the infinite, it is said that the most remarkable thing about Ramana Maharshi was that he never claimed anything remarkable for himself, yet became one of the most loved and respected of all.[citation needed]

I have got Sri Ramana Virunthu Part -3 but unable to find Sri Ramana Virunthu - Part 1 & 2
compiled by Siva. Deenanathan published by Sri Ramanasramam .
Are Parts 1 & 2 still available at the Ashram Book shop .I found only Part 3 available at the Online store ?


Bhagavan’s 63rd Aradhana – Live Video Streaming….. Date: 07.05.2013 Timings: 09.00 AM (IST) to 11.00 AM (IST)

Pointer - 12


Bhagavan sometimes said that Self-knowledge, that is, attaining the state of the jnani, is an easy thing because we are already the Self and consequently are already realized. At other times he would admit that attaining such a state is very difficult. To illustrate the later attitude I can offer the following exchange. A woman came and had Bhagavan's darshan. When she was ready to leave, she asked him, 'Bhagavan, my mind is wandering in many directions. What shall I do?'
Bhagavan advised her, 'Let it go in only on in one direction.'
After she had left, I asked him, 'If that is possible, what more do we want? That is jnana itself, is it not?'
'Well, what am I to do or say?' asked Bhagavan. 'As soon as people come here they want to become jnanis. They think it is quite easy. They do not realize the difficulty in it.'


Here is the thread where you can discuss about what you read here :
It is called Pointers from Bhagwan - For Discussion

"You say you are happy. Are you really happy, or are you merely trying to convince yourself. Look at yourself fearlessly and you will at once realize that your happiness depends on conditions and circumstances, hence it is momentary, not real. Real happiness flows from within."
(Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj)

This is a very excellent quote . A very practical pointer .

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