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Dear  , Kskat

Thanks for your replies .I will write in detail on my return , I just use the net for minimum communication use . I am on a personal retreat here with only my mother . This is my fifth trip to Rishikesh and I usually do it alone or with one of my close spiritual friend / close family member .I stay in a Hotel opp the Sivananda Ashram i.e near Swarg Ashram side of Ganges .More details after my return

Subramaniam Sir

Thanks for your reply . I have got Ganga Sahasranamam and daily chant Ganga Stotram of Sri Adi Shankara Charya . I do not know whether Ganga Ashtakam and Ganga Stotram are one and the same .I am trying to get a collection of as much hymns of Ganga as possible .I will try to see if I can get Kashi Panchakam as Kasi is also I  intend to visit in the coming months though Rishikesh is my most favored place for personal Sadhana and solitude .

Sending my prayers from Rishikesh  for the success in Sadhana for all the members in this forum . Will update more on my return .
Om Peace .

This auspicious Friday --  somehow I felt like writing this.

Dear Kskat

Thanks for sharing your feelings on this Auspicious Friday . I am writing this from Rishikesh where I am on a personal retreat . Today had a bath in the Holy Ganges and finished Chanting Lalitha Sahasranama of holy mother .After Father Arunachla , mother Ganga is a God in Physical form for me and I very much rejoice being in touch with her every year .
Respect your feelings that you have posted here and wish u all the best in your spiritual Sadhana .

Humour / Re: Funny pictures,quotes,videos...
« on: April 03, 2013, 09:22:10 PM »

General Discussion / Re: Had darshan of Arunachala Ramana
« on: April 02, 2013, 08:08:15 PM »
Dear Kaskat

Happy that you had darshan of Father  Arunacahala and also your trip to Tirupathi . The blessings of Shiva and Vishnu are with you now .
All the best in your sadhana .
Om Peace .



D : Should we not find out the ultimate reality of the world as individual and God?

B : These are conceptions of the ‘I’. They arise only after the advent of the ‘I’-thought. Did you think of them in deep sleep? Yet you existed in sleep, and the same ‘you’ is speaking now. If they were real, would they not exist in your sleep also? They are dependent on the ‘I’-thought. Again, does the world tell you: ‘I am the world’? Does the body say: ‘I am the body’? You say: ‘This is the world’ ‘this is the body’, and so on. So these are only your conceptions. Find out who you are, and that will be the end of all doubts.

D : What becomes of the body after realisation? Does it continue to exist or not? We see realised people performing actions like other people.

B.: This question need not worry you now. You can ask it after realisation if you feel like it. As for realised beings, let them take care of themselves. Why do you worry about them? In fact, after realisation, neither the body nor anything else will appear different from the Self.

D : If we are always Being-Consciousness-Bliss, why does God place us in difficulties? Why did He create us?

B.: Does God come and tell you that He placed you in difficulties? It is you who say so. It is the false ‘I’ again. If that disappears, there will be no one to say that God created this or that. That which is, does not even say ‘I am’. For does any doubt arise that ‘I am not?’ Only if a doubt arose whether one was a cow or a buffalo would one have to remind oneself that one is not an animal but a man; but this never happens. It is the same with one’s own existence and realization.

Self-enquiry, Teachings of Ramana Maharshi in his own words.

Here is the thread where you can discuss about what you read here :
It is called Pointers from Bhagwan - For Discussion

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 30, 2013, 10:04:23 AM »
What is the use of expounding the profound philosophical truths to people who are not prepared to put in practice even the tenets of Samanya Dharma (such as speaking the truth, observing Ahimsa etc.). Remember that it is Samanya Dharma that underlines the essential humaneness in every human. Hence never let go of Samanya Dharma. – Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

General topics / Re: Tamil Scriptures
« on: March 29, 2013, 09:45:26 PM »
 "வள்ளலார் பாடுகிறார்....

கல்லார்க்கும் கற்றவர்க்கும் களிப்பருளும் களிப்பே
காணார்க்கும் கண்டவர்க்கும் கண்ணளிக்கும் கண்ணே
வல்லார்க்கும் மாட்டார்க்கும் வரமளிக்கும் வரமே
மதியார்க்கும் மதிப்பவர்க்கும் மதிகொடுக்கும் மதியே
நல்லார்க்கும் பொல்லார்க்கும் நடுநின்ற நடுவே
நரர்களுக்கும் சுரர்களுக்கும் நலங்கொடுக்கும் நலமே
எல்லார்க்கும் பொதுவில்நடம் இடுகின்ற சிவமே
என்அரசே யான்புகலும் இசையும்அணிந் தருளே

இறைவன் எல்லாவற்றிற்கும் பொதுவாக இருக்கிறான். படித்தவன், படிக்காதவன், வல்லவன், இளைத்தவன், தன்னை மதிப்பவன், தன்னை மதிக்காதவன் நல்லவன், பொல்லாதவன் என்று அனைத்திற்கும் சாட்சியாக நடுவில் நிற்கிறான்."

Kanchi Paramacharya on Form / Formless Shiva


Pointer - 9

D: The Upanishads say, I am told, that he alone knows
the Atman whom the Atman chooses. Why should
the Atman choose at all? If it chooses, why some
particular person?

M: When the sun rises, some buds alone blossom, not
all. Do you blame the sun for that? Nor can the bud
blossom of itself, it requires the sunlight to do it.

D: May we not say that the help of the Atman is needed
because it is the Atman that drew over itself the veil
of maya?

M: You may say so.

D: If the Atman has drawn the veil over itself, should it
not itself remove the veil?

M: It will do so. See for whom is the veil.

D: Why should I? Let the Atman itself remove the veil!

M: If the Atman talks about the veil, then the Atman
itself will remove it.

Maharshi’s Gospel

Here is the thread where you can discuss about what you read here :
It is called Pointers from Bhagwan - For Discussion

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 29, 2013, 09:25:28 AM »
Swami Sivananda's writings are always a favourite of mine.As I said that the Pocket Book-Light Power and wisdom is one of my favourites.This is all that is required for any ardent seeker.
A free download of the book "Light ,Power and Wisdom " by Swami Sivananda can be found in this link below :

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 29, 2013, 07:05:44 AM »

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 28, 2013, 09:52:46 PM »


Yesterday some foreigners asked Mataji ( Ananda Mayi Ma )  questions.

Q: How can I get Self-Realization?

Ananda Mayi Ma: The Self is Swayam Prakash (self-illumined), so you need not do anything.

Q: But have we not to make an effort towards it?

Ma: Yes, there is a veil over the Self and you can remove it by your effort.

Q: What is the process towards this?

Ma: Do you really want it? Then will you do without questioning what I tell you?

Q: (hesitating) I came to India for this purpose and I regard Ramana Maharshi as my guru.

Ma: Then you must do exactly as He tells you. If you want Self-Realization and nothing else, you shall find a way. There is no doubt about it.

This is really the point and justifies what J.Krishnamurti said: “ If one is in dead earnest, this very seriousness becomes the guru.”

But who is in dead earnest?

'Death Must Die'

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: March 28, 2013, 05:23:14 PM »
Whatever wealth one loses in this world can be earned again. However, no amount of money can bring back lost time. Hence utilize time purposefully. – Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: March 27, 2013, 09:20:18 PM »
An excerpt from a Talk by Sage TGN:TRAINED  MIND  IS  YOUR  BEST  GURU
Thanks Ravi for sharing that .I keep reading that article from TGN's book "Practical Philosophy for Peace and Prosperity "and the above quote : Trained Mind is your best Guru has become a sort of pointer for me .
Unfortunately how to train the mind has never been taught in Schools nor at home and hence we have to learn this by trial and error .No doubt lot of Mind traning is available outside but those are very superficial ( they are more like concentration exercises ) and do not look at the mind in its holistic sense in the way our Shastras  look at the mind .
The entire Science of Yoga is about this training of Mind but later when we come to Vedanta we question even the existence of Mind . That is why Swami Sivananda combined both these Sciences together i.e  Yoga & Vedanta - Yoga for training the mind first and then Vedanta to pursue Atma Jnana with a well trained mind ( mind trained in all respects ) .
The book Mind ,Its Mysteries and Control by Swami Sivananda is a Classic book dealing with training the mind through Yoga .

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