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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: July 26, 2017, 10:20:04 AM »
Deep Devotional rendering of Sri Maha Periyava Prayer Song by Disciple of Dr. ML Vasantha Kumari - cant express in words the powerful emotion listening to this song generates .

General Discussion / Re: material pursuits and sadhana
« on: July 25, 2017, 08:35:13 PM »

Dear Friends

The question asked by Kskat is something that does not have right or wrong answers ir-respective of whether they are answered with quotes or without quotes . The discussion here is an ongoing process for all of us to help develop more clarity inspite of the fact that many of the questions may seem repetitive . That is  part of the sadhana .

General Discussion / Re: material pursuits and sadhana
« on: July 21, 2017, 08:53:44 PM »

General Discussion / Re: material pursuits and sadhana
« on: July 20, 2017, 03:47:32 PM »
Dear Ravi

My comment was meant for all people who post here  and  I feel everyone's contributions here very useful . Sometimes I go through old posts and feel refreshed reading them once again . In this regard I wish to share  a personal experience to prove that positive impact of these sharings . Apart from this forum I keep sharing some spiritual thoughts , quotes etc with a close set of  people ( family and friends ) by email , FB , Whatsapp  and while everyone reads the same only very few respond ( but they do say when I meet them personally that they read my posts )  and I send it not just for others to read and get inspired but  it must serve as a reminder to me also . During one such instance I shared a  life style  which a serious spiritual aspirant must adhere to and it was a list of 12 points and equally applicable to all people world wide ,ir-respective of the Religion they belong to ( I have also shared it here ) and I sent it by email to the group of my close friends/family members and that day evening I got a Phone call from my friend thanking me for sending the same as that Message really hit him hard and really woke him up . He is a very deeply spiritual person but then suddenly became very Tamasic and lost track and took to excessive watching of TV ( not just watching the news or once in a while the Cricket matches but the non stop  mindlessly watching to the extent it became an uncontrollable habit  ) and in the message that I sent the first Point was "Stop watching TV etc " and he felt it was a big wake up call and realized how much time he had been wasting on watching TV mindlessly ( Note : I am not against Watching TV but it must be in our control and the TV must not control us ) and he decided to cut down on his watching TV from that day and he felt that my message really hit him hard and it was a nice wake up call for him .

I have also had my own wake up calls from many such messages that I read in this forum and at other FB pages that I have subscribed .
So in conclusion : Keep sharing the  messages and it does make a positive impact with people whom we would have never met ( as the messages get shared and passed on ) . This is also a form of satsangh ( Online satsangh ) .

General Discussion / Re: material pursuits and sadhana
« on: July 20, 2017, 09:20:14 AM »
Anyway,I do not consider the time spent here as wasted...whatever I am posting here at least helps one person...myself...and I am thankful for  the opportunity to reflect on the teachings of the great ones.

Definitely not a waste ir-respective of whether people reply to your posts or not .I know of people who read through the various posts but do not reply or share ( it is not everybody's nature to express in writing what they feel ) but have acknowledged to me during my discussions with them that they have found many of the content ( the posts , quotes , discussions etc ) valuable here for their own self introspection . I consider this online forum as a sort of satsang itself and going through the posts here has helped me introspect on my own beliefs , opinions etc . So continue sharing .

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: July 19, 2017, 04:03:24 PM »
Maharaj, in spite of all my efforts, my mind is still restless. How can I curb it?
?Practice japa and meditation regularly. Do not miss even one day. The mind is like a spoiled child -always restless.
Try repeatedly to steady it by fixing it on the Chosen Ideal, and at last you will become absorbed in Him.
If you continue your practice for two or three years, you will begin to feel an unspeakable joy and the mind will become steady. In the beginning the practice of japa and meditation seems dry. It is like taking bitter medicine.
You must forcibly pour the thought of God into your mind,
then as you persist, you will be flooded with joy.
What a tremendous ordeal a student goes through in order to pass his examination. To realize God is a far easier task! Call on him sincerely with a tranquil heart?

General Discussion / Re: material pursuits and sadhana
« on: July 17, 2017, 03:13:15 PM »
Jiddu Krishnamurti - Most people are occupied with jobs

1st QUESTION: The speaker has said that going to an office everyday from nine to five is an intolerable imprisonment. But in any society all kinds of jobs have to be done. Is K's teaching therefore only for the few?

You have understood? Shall I read it again? The speaker has said that human society is so constructed throughout the world that most people are occupied with jobs, pleasant or unpleasant, from nine to five everyday of their life. And he said also that it is an intolerable imprisonment. I don't know how you feel about it. Probably you like being in prison, probably you like your jobs from nine o'clock to five o'clock, rushing, rushing back and all the rest of it. What shall we do? To the speaker he wouldn't tolerate it for a single minute - for the speaker. I would rather do something which would be pleasant, helpful and necessary to earn enough money and so on. But most of us accept this prison, this routine - right? We accept it. So what shall we do? Nobody, as far as one is capable of sufficient observation, nobody has questioned this. We say it is normal, it is the way of society, it is the way of our life, it is the way we must live. But if we all see together that such an imprisonment, which it is actually, that we all feel it is intolerable, not just verbally but actually do something about it we will create a new society - right? We will if all of us say we will not tolerate for a single day this routine, this monstrous activity of nine to five, however necessary, however good and pleasant, then we will bring about not only psychological revolution but also outwardly. Right? We may agree about this but will we do it? You might say, "No, I can't do it because I have responsibility, I have children, I have a house and mortgage, insurance" - thank god I haven't got any of those! And so you might say, "It is easy for you to talk about all this." But it is easy for the speaker to talk about it because he refuses to go in that pattern. From boyhood he refused it.

For more refer this video clip here it is around 13 mts

Jiddu Krishnamurti - Brockwood Park 2nd Public Question & Answer Meeting 30th August 1979



Saradamma: People look at Swamy ( Sri Lakshmana Swamy ) and me and think that realization must be relatively easy to achieve because we both realized the Self in a short time. However, we are exceptions. It is rare for someone to have the determination and dispassion that Swamy had during his sadhana, and it is equally rare for a devotee to be as God-intoxicated as I was.Complete surrender or earnest self-enquiry can only be effectively practiced by advanced devotees. Even Ramana Maharshi sometimes said that self-enquiry was for ripe souls only. Most people need a long period of purification to get their minds pure enough for total surrender or effective self-enquiry. Devotees ask for grace to realize the Self, but most devotees are nowhere near ready for realization; if they were given a large amount of grace the shock would kill them. For most people a preliminary period of mind purification, such as can be produced by japa or pranayama will be most useful.

- No Mind- I Am the Self by David Godman , p 214

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: July 04, 2017, 07:47:34 AM »


The ?I am? is present in all and not confined only to those who follow this particular teaching and Guru.
The intensity with which you meditate ?I am? will take you to your real Self as there is nothing else other than it.
To constantly mediate ?I am? is the only way. If this is not continuous enough the other part of the mind becomes predominant.


General Discussion / Re: Articles,Interviews,News
« on: June 29, 2017, 11:26:08 PM »
Thanks Balaji for sharing the info on the death of Soolamangalam Jeyalakshmi and it is a not a normal coincidence but a divine coincidence that she passed on the day of Sashti . If today Skanda Sasahti Kavacham and Skanda Guru Kavacham are popular then the credit definitely goes to Soolamangalam Sisters .

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: June 27, 2017, 09:58:44 PM »
You should not allow your mind to wander in all directions when you do Puja to the Lord. A short focused Puja is better than an elaborate Puja where the mind keeps wavering
- Sri Srigeri Saradha peeda Mahaswamigal Sri Bharathi Thhertha Swamigal



Don?t regard the abidance in the ?I am? as a part-time activity. You must have a life long commitment to get yourself established in it.
At all times keep moving back to the ?I am?, your source, and do not let anything divert or distract you from this.
The ?I am? in its absolute purity is the infinite and formless, so when you abide in it you discover the infinite eye of the Self.
If you can hold on to the knowledge ?I am? at all times, no further practice or initiation will be necessary.


General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: June 26, 2017, 07:20:38 PM »
"ஸ்ரீ வித்யா மந்திரம் கேட்டு வந்த வாலிபனுக்கு
'ஸ்ரீ'யே (பெரியவா) 'வித்யை' (வித்தை) காட்டி விட்டாள்"
(ஆணவமாக வந்த வாலிபன்,பாலகனாக மனமகிழ்ச்சியுடன்
சென்ற நிகழ்ச்சி)

கட்டுரையாளர்-ஸ்ரீமடம் பாலு-122
தட்டச்சு-வரகூரான் நாராயணன்
புத்தகம்-காஞ்சி மகான் தரிசனம்
இளம் வயதுப் பையன். பழத்தட்டுடன் வந்து பவ்யமா
நமஸ்காரம் செய்தான்.பெரியவாளுக்கு.
"நீங்கதான் என்னோட குரு" என்றான்.
ரொம்பப் பேர், அப்படி சொல்லிண்டிருக்கா!"
உதடு பிரியாத புன்னகையுடன் பெரியவா.
"நான் அப்படியில்லே. உங்களைக் குருவாக வரித்து விட்டேன்.
எனக்கு ஸ்ரீ வித்யா ஷோடசி மந்த்ரம் உபதேசம் பண்ணணும்.
என்னைப் பரம சாக்தனாக ஆக்கணும். ஜான் வுட்ராஃபின்
தந்திர நூல்களையெல்லாம் படிச்சு முடிச்சுட்டேன்.
Serpent Power எனக்கு நெட்டுருவே ஆயிடுத்து..."
பெரியவாள், நிதானமாகக் கேட்டார்கள்.;
"நீ இப்போ என்ன சாதனை பண்ணிண்டிருக்கே?"
"லலிதா ஸஹஸ்ரநாம பாராயணம், சௌந்தர்யலஹரி,
மூக பஞ்சசதி,ஆனந்த ஸாகர ஸ்தவம்,சியாமளா தண்டகம்..."
"இதுபோறும்.அம்பாளைத் தியானம் செய்..."-பெரியவா
பையனுக்கு எரிச்சலாக வந்தது. சாக்தத்தில், தான் இவ்வளவு
ஊறியிருந்தும் பெரியவா,மந்திரோபதேசம் செய்ய ஏன்
மறுக்கிறார்? என்பது புரியவில்லை.தன்னைப்போன்று,தகுதி
வாய்ந்த அபூர்வமான பாத்திரம் வெகு அருமையாகத்தானே
"பெரியவா எனக்குக் கட்டாயமா மந்திரோபதேசம் செய்யணும்.
அதற்காகவே நாள் பார்த்துக்கொண்டு இன்றைக்கு வந்திருக்கேன்
உபதேசம் பெறாமல் போகமாட்டேன்"என்றான் கடுமையான
பெரியவாள் சிறிது நேரம் மௌனமாக இருந்தார்கள்.
"உனக்குப் பசிக்கிறதா?"--பெரியவா
"பசி எடுத்தா என்னென்ன சாப்பிடுவே?"
"சாதம்,குழம்பு, கூட்டு,கறி, அவியல், அப்பளம்,ரசம்,மோர்.."
"உங்கம்மா, நீ பிறந்த அன்றைக்கே சாதம் போட்டாளா?"
"இல்லை. பால்தான் கொடுத்தா..."
"அப்புறம்,கொஞ்சம் கொஞ்சமா சாதத்தையும் பருப்பையும்
வெழுமூணா பிசைஞ்சு ஊட்டினாள். அப்புறமா இட்லி,
தோசை. சாம்பார்,வெண்டைக்காய் கறி,புடலங்காய்க் கூட்டு..
"ஏன், அப்படிச் செய்தா? பொறந்த உடனேயே சாதம்
"ஜீரணம் ஆகாது; குழந்தைகளுக்கு ஒத்துக்காது;
கெடுதல் பண்ணும்..."--பையன்.
இடையில்,யார் யாருக்கோ பிரசாதம் கொடுத்தார்கள்;
குறைகளைக் கேட்டு ஆறுதல் கூறினார்கள்; ஸ்ரீ மடம்
அலுவல்களை உத்தரவிட்டார்கள். பின்னர்,
பையனைப் பார்த்தார்கள்.
"மந்திரங்களுக்கு ஜீவசக்தி உண்டு; கண்ணுக்குத் தெரியாத
தெய்விக அலையாக தேகம் முழுவதும் பரவும். அதை,
குழந்தைகளாலே தாங்கிக்க முடியாது.பால் குடிக்கிற
அதே குழந்தை, தக்க வளர்ச்சி ஏற்பட்டதும் சாதம்,
சாம்பார் சாப்பிடும்."--பெரியவா
"உனக்கு இப்போது பால பருவம்; பால் பருவம்;
காத்திண்டிரு. சாதப் பருவம் வரும்.அப்போது உனக்குச்
சாதம் ஊட்டுவதற்கு, ஒருவர் வந்து சேருவார்."--பெரியவா.
ஸ்ரீ வித்யா மந்திரம் கேட்டு வந்த வாலிபனுக்கு
'ஸ்ரீ'யே (பெரியவா) 'வித்யை' (வித்தை) காட்டி விட்டாள்.
ஆணவமாக வந்த வாலிபன்,பாலகனாக மனமகிழ்ச்சியுடன்

Pointer -27

From: ~~~ Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, Talk 596.
Sri Bhagavan said last night that God is guiding us.
Then why should we make an effort
to do anything?

Who asks you to do so?
If there was that faith in the guidance of God
this question would not have arisen.
The fact is that God guides us.
Then what is the use of these instructions to people?
They are for those who seek instructions.
If you are firm in your belief
in the guidance of God,
stick to it,
and do not concern yourself
with what happens around you.
there may be happiness or misery.
Be equally indifferent to both
and abide in the faith of God.
That will be so
only when one?s faith is strong
that God looks after all of us.

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