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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 30, 2013, 06:08:51 PM »
When does an action result in sin?

It is when, acting with selfish desire, we venture to indulge in all kinds of wrongful actions to achieve our selfish goal. By doing so, we load our mind with the impurity of enmity, fear, sorrow etc.

“Total commitment to our action becomes possible only when the itch for selfish desire is absent and therefore the action is honest”

Kanchi Mahaswamigal

General topics / Re: urgent prayer request
« on: October 30, 2013, 05:17:43 PM »
Dear Kskat

Will keep you and your family in my daily prayers . Everything will go smoothly .Trust in God and do what is to be done .
Keep us updated about your fathers heath condition .
Om Peace .

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 30, 2013, 03:12:00 PM »

Here is a letter written by Shri VK Kuttan Menon, father of Pujya Gurudev Swami Chinmayananda to Swami Sivananda.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 29, 2013, 06:23:01 AM »
Devotee: What are the obstacles which hinder realisation of the Self?

M.: They are habits of mind (vasanas).

D.: How to overcome the mental habits (vasanas)?

M.: By realising the Self.

D.: That is a vicious circle.

M.: It is the ego which raises such difficulties, creating obstacles and then suffers from the perplexity of apparent paradoxes. Find out who makes the enquiries and the Self will be found.

-from Talk 13 of 'Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi'

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 27, 2013, 06:54:29 PM »
When I was still new in the kitchen, I served Bhagavan with a few extra pieces of potato. Bhagavan got very angry. Each night, after the day’s work was over, the women who worked in the kitchen would collect around the Maharshi and ask permission to leave. Usually, he would exchange a few words with us, enquire who was accompanying us, whether we had a lantern, and so on. That evening he gave me a sign to come near and said, “You served me extra curry. I felt ashamed to eat more than the others. You should always serve me less than other people. The more you love my people, the more you love me.” The matter was closed. A good lesson was learnt and never forgotten.

-Face to Face with Sri Ramana Maharshi, by Shantammal, Head cook at the Ashram

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 27, 2013, 01:36:55 PM »
Yesterday, a sadhu came and sat in the Hall. He seemed anxious to speak to Bhagavan, but hesitant. After some time, he approached him and said, “Swami, it is said that the Self (atma), is all-pervading. Does that mean that it is in a dead body also?”

"Oho! So that is what you want to know?” rejoined Bhagavan. “And did the question occur to the dead body or to you?”

“To me,” said the sadhu.

Bhagavan: “When you are asleep do you question whether you exist or not? It is only after you wake up that you say you exist. In the dream state also, the Self exists. There is really no such thing as a dead or a living body. That which does not move we call dead, and that which has movement we call alive. In dreams you see any number of bodies, living and dead, and they have no existence when you wake up. In the same way this whole world, animate and inanimate, is non-existent. Death means the dissolution of the ego, and birth means the rebirth of the ego. There are births and deaths, but they are of the ego; not of you. You exist whether the sense of ego is there or not. You are its source, but not the ego-sense. Deliverance (mukti) means finding the origin of these births and deaths and demolishing the ego-sense to its very roots. That is deliverance. It means death with full awareness. If one dies thus, one is born again simultaneously and in the same place with Aham sphurana known as ‘Aham, Aham (I, I)’. One who is born thus, has no doubts whatsoever.”

-Letters from Sri Ramanasramam, by Suri Nagamma, 11th September, 1947

(There is one Tamizh commentary by Tirupporur Chidambara Swamigal, that has been published by Mullai Padippagam, Chennai.
Here, Sri Ramalinga VaLLalAr's commentary on the verse 1 alone - which he has written - is given. Recently, a commentary
in Tamizh has been published by Sri Sriram of Ramana Bhakta Samajam of Chennai 33.)

Subramaniam Sir

Are u aware of how many verses Saint Ramalingaswamigal has covered ? Is it just one verse ?

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 25, 2013, 01:13:14 PM »
The discipline of knowledge is only cultivated by the grace of a realised Guru, and not by any amount of verbal discussions. – Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamaigal

Arunachala / Re: We shoud not lose that sweet innocent prayer attidue
« on: October 24, 2013, 08:06:41 PM »
That is a beautiful excerpt in periyava's simple style. There is no doubt that gnanis continue to have bhakthi for saguma ishwara also as bhagawan, Ramakrishna et al demonstrated. 

However, my question was on why Adi Shankara is denying his immense knowledge of mantra, yantra, bhakthi, vratam? Why is he claiming to have been "kulachara heena" etc.?
Is it just humility or written for our sake ? Or attitude of surrender?

Atmavichar, will be nice to have Swami Paramarthananda's opinion. I am a regular listener of his lectures, especially BG. I had the fortune to visit and get his blessings while I was in chennai recently.


Dear Deepaji

Today I was fortunate to meet Swami Paramarthananda in person ( went along with my brother who has come from USA for a short visit here ) and I asked him the above question . He said Adi Shankara wrote the poems in first person and hence who ever chants should take it for himself the meaning of those verses . That is the primary purpose and secondary is that however great a person is he keeps himself humble when he writes poems praising the deity .So next time we chant Bhavani Ashtakam we must feel that the verses refer  only to us and not to Shankaracharya .

Dear Kskat

Only today early morning I was discussing about Ribhu Gita Tamil Chanting with my brother who came from USA yesterday and I was smiling when I saw your post here about Ribhu Gita parayana .I like the Tamil Chanting and listen to Chapter -3( Sarvamum Mithai ) at times . But right now I am immersed fully in Bhagavad Gita and later I will take Ribhu Gita for full time study and parayana .

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 13, 2013, 07:06:06 PM »

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 12, 2013, 09:27:07 PM »

Dont use Buddhism to become a Buddhist . Use Buddhism to become better at whatever else in your life you are doing already - Dalai Lama

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 12, 2013, 09:25:26 PM »
The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi
A gentleman from Ambala asked: What is the rationalistic explanation of Draupadi's sari becoming endless?

M.: Spiritual matters cannot be fitted into rationalism. Spirituality is transcendental. The miracle was after Draupadi had surrendered herself. The secret lies in surrender.

-from Talk 101 of 'Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi'

Ramana Maharshi
D.: I want to know how I can gain that peace of mind. Kindly be pleased to advise me.
M.: Yes - devotion and surrender.

D.: Am I worthy of being a devotee?
M.: Everyone can be a devotee. Spiritual fare is common to all and never denied to anyone - be the person old or young, male or female.

D.: That is exactly what I am anxious to know. I am young and a grihini (housewife). There are duties of grihastha dharma (the household). Is devotion consistent with such a position?

M.: Certainly. What are you? You are not the body. You are Pure Consciousness. Grihastha dharma and the world are only phenomena appearing on that Pure Consciousness. It remains unaffected. What prevents you from being your own Self?
Talk 250

If solitude is chosen to escape from the problems / challenges that we have in our day to day life then we can never be in peace wherever we go .But if you take to solitude for a few days to have a break from your day to day life and to sit and introspect your life , your thoughts etc then you will come back more clear and refreshed after this break .
For a person who has well advanced in his spiritual journey he will naturally take to solitude if such an option exists before him but otherwise he will be be comfortable wherever he is .
One of the reasons why early morning meditation ( in Brahma Muhurta )  is prescribed in our scriptures is that there is no disturbance during that time and we can do our sadhana in perfect solitude even if we stay in a big city .

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