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General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 28, 2013, 07:53:59 AM »
Subrahmanya Karavalambashtakam
Subrahmanya Karavalambam
(Support of the hands of Subrahmanya)
Translated by

(This prayer is also called “Swaminatha Karavalambam”. It sings the glory of Lord Subrahmanya, who is the consort of Valle to give a helping hand to the devotees.)

Here is the youtube audio/video link to this beautiful composition :

Hey Swaminatha karunakara deena bandho,
Sree Paravatheesa mukha pankaja padma bandho,
Sreesadhi deva gana poojitha pada padma,
Valleesa nadha mama dehi karavalambham. 1

Extend a hand of support, Oh Lord of Valli,
Who is the chief of gods, who is merciful,
Who is friend of the oppressed,
Who is the son of the lotus faced lord of goddess Parvathi,
And whose lotus feet is worshipped
By all gods and also by Lord of Goddess Lakshmi.

Devadhi deva sutha , deva ganadhi nadha,
Devendra vandhya mrudu pankaja manju pada,
Devarshi narada muneendra sugeetha keerthe,
Valleesa nadha mama dehi karavalambham. 2

Extend a hand of support, Oh Lord of Valli,
Who is the son of God of gods, who is the chief of all gods,
Whose soft lotus like feet is worshipped by Devendra,
And whose fame is sung by deva sage Narada and others.

Nithyanna dana nirathakhila roga harin,
Bhagya pradhana paripooritha bhaktha kama,
Sruthyagama pranava vachya nija swaroopa,
Valleesa nadha mama dehi karavalambham. 3

Extend a hand of support, Oh Lord of Valli,
Who gives food daily in charity, who cures all prevalent diseases,
Who bestows luck , who fulfills all wishes of devotees,
And whose real form is the pranava given in Vedas.

Krouncha surendra parigandana sakthi soola,
Chapa thi sasthra parimanditha divya panai,
Sree kundaleesa drutha thunda sikheendra vaha,
Valleesa nadha mama dehi karavalambham. 4

Extend a hand of support, Oh Lord of Valli,
Who is the Lord of mountains, who holds,
Shakthi, Soola, bow and arrows in his holy hands,
Who wears ear rings and who rides the fast moving peacock.

Devadhi deva radha mandala Madhya methya,
Devendra peeda nagaram druda chapa hastha,
Sooram nihathya sura kotibhiradyamana,
Valleesa nadha mama dehi karavalambham. 5

Extend a hand of support, Oh Lord of Valli,
Who is the god o gods,
Who rides the central Chariot among a group of chariots,
Who prevents problems for Devendra,
Who can send arrows very fast,
And who by killing Sura became,
The object of adulation of billions of devas.

Heeradhi rathna vara yuktha kireeda hara,
Keyura kundala lasath kavachabhirama,
Hey Veera tharaka jayaa amara brunda vandhya,
Valleesa nadha mama dehi karavalambham. 6

Extend a hand of support, Oh Lord of Valli,
Who wears crowns and chains with diamonds and gems,
Who wears armlet, ear rings and strong armour,
And who is the valorous one who killed Tharaka,
And was saluted by the groups of devas.

Panchaksharadhi manu manthritha ganga thoyai,
Panchamruthai praudhithendra mukhair muneendryai,
Pattabhishiktha maghavatha nayasa nadha,
Valleesa nadha mama dehi karavalambham. 7

Extend a hand of support, Oh Lord of Valli,
Who was crowned as their leader by Indra,
With the chanting of the holy five letters,
With the bathing of the holy water of Ganga,
After strengthening it further by holy chants,
And who was anointed with the five holy nectars,
By very learned and holy sages.

Sree karthikeya karunamrutha poorna drushtya,
Kamadhi roga kalushi krutha drushta chitham,
Sikthwa thu mamava kala nidhi koti kantha,
Valleesa nadha mama dehi karavalambham. 8

Extend a hand of support, Oh Lord of Valli,
Who is known as Karthikeya , who with his ,
Fully nectar like looks of mercy cures,
Passion, diseases and mind which has made been dirty
Who is the treasure house of arts and
Who shines like billions of suns.

Subrahmanyashtakam punyam yeh padanthi dwijothama,
They sarve mukthimayanthi subrahmanya prasadatha,
Subrahmanyashtakamidham prathar uthaya ya padeth,
Kodi janma krutham papam thath kshanad thasya nasyathi.

The twice born who reads this octet on Subrahmanya,
Would attain salvation by the grace of Lord Subrahmanya,
And for him who reads this octet on Subrahmanya , as soon as,
He gets up in the morning , the sins committed in billons,
Of previous births will vanish in a second.

Dear Kskat

Saint Ramalinga Swamigal was not a  pure advaitin and he is basically a combination of many things advaita , saiva siddhantha , bhakti , yoga etc . He did not confine himself to one specific line of thought and was an amalgamation of many things .
But basically he kept this teachings simple i.e Universal Compassion is the key to God and best way to show is feeding the hungry and has written an excellent work in Prose called "Jeeva Karunya Ozhukkam " i.e Path of Compassion that is also available in English Translation on the net freely .
I was attracted to Saint Ramalingam only after reading that work .

I could see lot of similarities between Him and Bhagavan Ramana and have already shared those similarities here in this forum .

I found Ramalinga Swamigal's Tamil to be more simple and easily readable than Bhagavan's Tamil and since my knowledge of classical Tamil is not good I am taking the route of first understanding Ramalinga Swamigal /Subramanya Bharatiar poems etc as a base to build up my tamil before I approach Bhagavan Ramana's Tamil works .

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 26, 2013, 10:45:11 AM »
Sage of Kanchi
The importance of the Yajurveda is that it systematises the karmayoga, the path of works. The Tattitiriya Samhita of the Krsna-Yajurveda deals with sacrifices like darsapurnamasa, somayaga, vajapeya, rajasuya, asvamedha. Besides it has a number of hymnic mantras of a high order not found in the Rgveda. For example, the popular Sri Rudra mantras are from the Yajurveda. The Rgveda does contain five suktas known as "Pancarudra", but when we mention Sri Rudra we at once think of the mantras to this deity in the Yajurveda. That is why a supreme Saiva like Appayya Diksita laments that he was not born a Yajurvedin - he was a Samavedin.

General topics / Re: Sangeetha Dhyana
« on: September 26, 2013, 08:12:57 AM »
A very moving Bhajan Song

Nimmadhi Adaindhen - Udaiyalur Shri. Kalyanaraman

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 24, 2013, 04:28:36 PM »
Sage of Kanchi
"Anantah vai Vedah", the Vedas are unending. The seers have, however, revealed to us only a small part of them but it is sufficient for our welfare in this world and next. We are not going to create many universes like Brahma that we should know all the Vedas. We need to know only as many as are necessary to ensure our good in this world.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 24, 2013, 04:26:22 PM »

When I first came to Bhagavan and heard him repeating constantly that everyone must eventually come to the path of self-enquiry, I wondered whether he was being partial to his own teaching, but I soon understood why he insisted that this is so. The final goal is only oneness, and to experience oneness our mind must subside, which will happen entirely only when we attend to nothing other than ourself.
So long as we attend to anything other than ourself, our mind cannot subside, because attention to other things sustains it, since that which experiences otherness is only this mind. When the mind subsides completely, only self-attention remains, and self-attention alone is the state of absolute oneness. Bhagavan used to repeat this teaching every day, maybe ten or twenty times, but still we didn’t change. He didn’t change his teaching either, because to him this truth was so clear.

Sadhu Om in 'Mountain Path'

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 24, 2013, 04:22:39 PM »
The effects brought about by fate, a product of your own past actions, can always be countered by your efforts now. Never lose heart if you do not succeed initially. Keep on trying and you are bound to succeed. – Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 22, 2013, 08:59:19 PM »
Everyone cries “Sanatana Dharma is on the decline”, and repeats it endlessly, but does not stop, to have an introspection into his own conduct. He, who does not set an example himself, but goes on blaming others for the decline of dharma, is the greatest enemy of Dharma.-  Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 22, 2013, 08:58:09 PM »
Practice "Who am I?" constantly, continuously. "Who is this I that has this problem, this fear, this frustration? Where did the I come from?" As you keep separating yourself from the I daily, continuously soon you will not have to voice these things. It will be automatic. Whatever situation unveils itself, you will not say anything you will just look at it and smile and not be involved in it whatsoever. You will have risen to a higher consciousness, just by smiling at the condition, the situation. But if you are not practicing, then when a situation confronts you'll get angry, mad, upset, depressed and the rest.

~ Robert Adams

...from "Whatever You See Is The Self" - February 25, 1993

General topics / Re: Discussion on the Quotes of Shankaracharya's
« on: September 22, 2013, 08:56:11 PM »
Everyone cries “Sanatana Dharma is on the decline”, and repeats it endlessly, but does not stop, to have an introspection into his own conduct. He, who does not set an example himself, but goes on blaming others for the decline of dharma, is the greatest enemy of Dharma.- Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 22, 2013, 09:39:10 AM »

An excerpt from The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna:

THE YOUNGER NAREN: "Sir, have we any free will?"
MASTER: "Just try to find out who this 'I' is. While you are searching for 'I', 'He' comes out. 'I am the machine and He is the Operator.' You have heard of a mechanical toy that goes into a store with a letter in its hand. You are like that toy. God alone is the Doer. Do your duties in the world as if you were the doer, but knowing all the time that God alone is the Doer and you are the instrument.
"As long as the upadhi exists there is ignorance. 'I am a scholar', 'I am a jnani', 'I am wealthy', 'I am honourable', 'I am the master, father, and teacher' -all these ideas are begotten of ignorance. 'I am the machine and You are the Operator' - that is Knowledge. In the state of Knowledge all upadhis are destroyed. When the log is burnt up entirely, there is no more sound; no heat either. Everything cools down. Peace! Peace! Peace!

The above is the quote posted by Sri.Ravi in Anil's thread .
Nothing more be elaborated .It is the essence of all the Gitas/Upanishads .  The discussion on fate and free will will never be ending but  instead of discussing if we use the above quote as a message for our  own reflection during our daily meditation then we will understand the depth of it and accept life without much resistance .

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 21, 2013, 08:52:48 PM »

Otherwise, just sit and look at your thoughts. Let your mind do whatever it likes. Let it become as nasty as it wants! Let the mind tell you all kinds of things — scary things, happy things, wrong things, right things.

The mind is only here to make trouble for you, that's all. But when you do not allow the mind to make trouble for you, it disappears! And how do you do this? By not reacting to your thoughts. By not allowing them to feel anything. Where do these thoughts come from? Nowhere. They are called
false imagination. All thoughts are false imagination. False imagination is like the water in the mirage. That's where your thoughts are. They appear to come to you but they don't exist. If they were real you'd be able to grab them, hold on to them, save them, put them in a box, store them away. But
you cannot do this, which proves that they have no substance. How can they frighten you?

by Robert Adams

General Discussion / Re: Sri Ramanasramam - Calendar and Diary for 2014.
« on: September 21, 2013, 06:01:30 PM »
Thanks Subramaniam Sir for this info .

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 19, 2013, 08:58:41 AM »
Sage of Kanchi
Sankara, who has expounded the ideals of Selfrealisation and jnana, says: "Vedo nityam adhiyatam taduditam karma svanusthiyatam" (Chant the vedas every day. Perform with care the sacrifices and other rites they enjoin upon you). The Acharya wants us to conduct sacrifices not for happiness in this world, nor for the enjoyment of the pleasure of paradise. No, not for any petty rewards. Sankara exhorts us to carry out Vedic works without our hearts being vitiated by desire. This, according to his teaching, is the way to make our mind pure in order to realise the Self.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: September 18, 2013, 10:10:26 AM »

Top Ten Buddhism facts you should know

by Jaya
About 2500 years ago, Siddhartha Gautama, a prince likely to become king of several northern states in India, stepped out of his palace to see the real world. He was shocked to learn that the world, contrary to what he had seen inside the palace, was full of suffering. Siddhartha set out on a quest to find the truth and the permanent solution to sufferings such as death, disease, old age, etc. After many years, Siddhartha became the ‘Buddha’ – the Enlightened One. Buddhism as a religion, practice or philosophy as you choose to call it, is based on his teachings. Listed below are top 10 Buddhism facts that you should know.

1)      Cause and effect is the universal law of universe

bbncommunity.comBuddhism recognizes ‘Cause and Effect’ or Karma as the universal law. According to Buddhism, in the transient world, all humans receive good, bad or other outcomes according to the nature of their dispositions and actions. Heaven, in terms of Buddhist principles is the point when the mind of a seeker is freed from the Karmic cycle. It is the point at which a person masters himself. The mind, at that point, is like a tranquil ocean with no ripples of thoughts or emotions.

2)      Buddhism as a religion was born because of the Hinduism

bbncommunity.comSiddhartha Gautama was a Hindu prince by birth. He was born at a time when Hinduism, the oldest religion in the world, was in the grip of superstitions, caste-system and corruption in Vedic way of life. Siddha systems of learning had nearly vanished from the society. Gautama went on to find his own answers (which later become guiding principles of Buddhism) because Hinduism could not satisfy his urge for absolute truth. It is due to this reason that Hinduism and Buddhism, the two spiritual traditions of the East, are quite similar and dissimilar at the same time

3)     It’s the 4th largest religion in the world

bbncommunity.comThe spread of Buddhism, as many people presume, is not limited to Tibet, Thailand & Sri lanka. There are well over 360 million people all over the world who practice and adhere to the teachings of Buddhism. The number is growing with each passing year as people in the West have begun taking deep interest in Buddhism, its teachings and rituals

4)     Buddha is not a god. He is a teacher.

bbncommunity.comBuddhists do not look up to Buddha as God, as most people think they do. He’s revered as a teacher or spiritual guide. Buddhists look up to Buddha for wisdom and guidance. Many Buddhists meditate upon Buddha to find their own answers or absolute wisdom.

5)     Buddhism does not teach that everyone in the world destined to suffer.

bbncommunity.comIt is a common misconception about Buddhism. The fact is: Buddhism accepts the world as ‘temporary’ or ‘transitory’. Therefore, the suffering, too, is temporary and there’s a way out of this suffering called the Middle Path. The whole religion or philosophy of Buddhism is based on it.

6)     Non attachment does not imply Buddhists can’t have relationships.

bbncommunity.comWhen most people learn that monks and other Buddhists practice non-attachment, they simply presume that the religion has no place for relationships or a so called ‘normal life’. To be detached, in terms of Buddhism, is to be control of one’s one self and be detached to everything happening in the world. If practiced regularly, this non-attachment can indeed help a person have the most fulfilling relationships.


7)      Buddhism compliments science

bbncommunity.comBuddhist principles and doctrines, like Vedic scriptures in Hinduism, complement science to a great degree. Over the last couple of years, many parallels have been drawn between Buddhist literature and findings in Quantum Physics. These parallels have, in particular, been drawn by considering ‘spiritual’ principles of Buddhism that appear to indicate sublime truths now being discovered by quantum physicists.

The next three facts we bring you are highly controversial matters. They have to be analyzed with the right mind set. We wish to bring you separate discussions on these three subjects as one may argue the authenticity of these three points. For an example we believe Buddhists should be vegetarians and there are enough evidences, facts and reasons to justify that Buddha was vegetarian himself. Besides, the doctrine clearly condition that eating meat does not fulfill the main percepts on Buddhism.

  However we state this hoping that we can have a fruitful discussion later on these three subjects.

8)      Reincarnation is a doctrine, not an absolute truth

bbncommunity.comA large number of people all over the world, especially those who’ve recently heard about Buddhism, think that it fully accepts the system of reincarnation. Yes, it is true, but it’s only partial truth. It’s only a Buddhist doctrine based on the belief that energy or soul conditioned by experiences takes birth over and over again until it’s finally liberated. The higher truth propagated by Buddhism, however, is that a seeker should hold break free from all ‘views or opinions’ about the world. The doctrine is, but a stepping stone to that point.

9)      Buddhists may or may not believe in god

bbncommunity.comWhile some Buddhists believe in God, others are agnostic. Yet, few others believe in demigods like Hindus do. Whether they believe in God or not, they make it a point to meditate on their own selves to find the higher truth, beyond an accepted belief. Like Hinduism or any other religion in the world, Buddhism, too, has a multitude of different traditions. It’s in the core philosophy of Buddhism (e.g. Bhagavad Gita or Upanishads in Hinduism) that a seeker can truly rely on for wisdom and direction.

10)   Vegetarianism is not a commandment

Many schools of Buddhism preach non-violence and motivate all their students to turn vegetarians. However, the fact is – vegetarianism is NOT an absolute requirement or commandment for Buddhists. To eat or not to eat meat is a personal choice in Buddhism. A Buddhist can quit eating meat when he or she has a reason or feels an inner calling to do so. Buddhism strictly prescribes that no living being should be killed but it does not prohibits consumption of a naturally dead animal.

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