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Thnaks Udai for the links . Will go through the same .

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 06, 2017, 09:43:00 PM »
Bhagavan: Thought rises up as the subject and object. ?I? alone being held, all else disappears. It is enough, but only to the competent few?
The Self being always the Self, why should only a dhira [heroic one] be illumined? Does it mean a man of courage? No. Dhih equals intellect; rah equals watch, protection. So [a] dhira is the one who always keep the mind inward bent, without letting it loose.
- Talks with Sri Ramana Maharshi, talk no. 352

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 05, 2017, 01:51:44 PM »

When one group of villagers who had just been given Arunachala Stuti Panchakam [Bhagavan's five poems about Arunachala] to recite left the hall, a devotee asked,
'How can such uneducated people understand the literary Tamil in these poems?
?They don't have to understand the meaning,? replied Bhagavan, ?they will get some benefit from merely repeating the verses.'?
I can think of another similar case. Whenever Echammal's granddaughter came to see Bhagavan, he would ask her to read out loud Upadesa Undiyar [a thirty-verse philosophical work by Bhagavan in Tamil; also called Upadesa Saram]. If she made any mistakes Bhagavan would correct her pronunciation.
Since she seemed to be a rather worldly girl I once asked Bhagavan, This girl does not look as if she has any desire for jnana. Why do you ask her to repeat Upadesa Undiyar each time she comes?'
Bhagavan explained: 'In future when troubles come to her, the remembrance of these verses will help her.'
This girl is now an old woman. When I saw her a few months ago?we had not seen each other for many years?I reminded her of these lessons that Bhagavan had given her.
She told me; "The verses have stayed in my memory all my life, but it is only recently, by the grace of Bhagavan, that I have begun to understand their meaning."
Living by the Words of Bhagavan p 115

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: November 03, 2017, 05:35:58 PM »
Q: I know that Bhagavan is within all forms but sometimes I feel that it is easier to feel his grace by concentrating on an image of him.
Self-enquiry is such hard work. One rarely feels blissful or peaceful doing it. Sometimes I feel like treating myself to a little bliss by looking at Bhagavan's picture for a while.
AS: There is nothing wrong with looking at Bhagavan's picture. It is a very good practice. But you should not get sidetracked from your main objective which is establishing yourself as consciousness. Don't get attached to states of bliss or give them priority over the quest for the Self. If you become attached to peaceful or blissful states you may lose interest in your main quest.
It is good to feel blissful and peaceful but don't indulge yourself in these states at the expense of self-enquiry. If you realize the inner Self, if you realize that there is not an atom which is apart from the Self, you will experience the real peace and bliss of the Self.
You will BE the peace and bliss rather than being the experiencer of it. If you enjoy temporary states of peace and bliss in the mind, the experiencer of that peace and bliss will not want to subside into the Self and disappear.
Don't get attached to mental peace. Go beyond it to the real peace which comes from being the Self.
LWB, p. 339

General Discussion / Re: Swami Sivananda's Teachings and Quotes
« on: November 01, 2017, 03:04:08 PM »
The best medicine for all diseases is Kirtan, Japa and regular Meditation. The Divine waves regenerate and energies the cells, tissues, nerves etc. Another very cheap but really potent medicine is cheerfulness, smile, laugh and be cheerful. All diseases will take to their heels. Even when the medical board pronounced a case to be absolutely hopeless, prayers comes to the rescue and the patient is surprisingly cured. Healing by prayer is miraculous and mysterious.
Lord Dhanwantari who expounded the Ayurvedic Medical Science has himself declared "By the medicine of the repetition of Achyuta, Govinda" all diseases are cured. This is my definite and honest declaration.
- Sri Swami Sivananda

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 31, 2017, 03:17:37 PM »


A Discussion with Ma ( Anand Mayi Ma )
An American woman, Markell Brooks had been only for twelve says in India when she asked Anandamayi Ma:
Question: Since the will of the individual is illusory and one
does not know God's will, how can one lead a purposeful life in this world.
Ma: By contemplating the Self, one will find out. It is man's principal duty to aspire to Self-realization.
Question: What about self-expression in art?
Ma: This also belongs to that which is fleeting. You paint a picture, but it can't last. The most beautiful song fades away in a moment.
Question: Presuming that the striving goes on no matter what, how can one know how to live ?in relation both to human beings and one's own creative energies?
Ma: A man who is after worldly things and is occupied with the business of this world gets satisfaction out of what he does, for otherwise why should he do it? He feels he is doing well, he gets praise and fame, money and position and his mind is always occupied with his affairs. If someone is opposed to him and puts obstacles in his way he gets angry and hostile.
A person who strives after Self-realization will turn to Mahatmas [great souls] for advice, guidance, and company. He will start reading books written by such men. He will admire them and wish to become like them and so, since he is searching for Truth, he will come to be truthful in behavior and speech. The Self is one, so remember the Oneness of all.
Although a dog may bite you, you will not bite back. The man who strives after worldly goods and satisfaction is working for death because everything in the world is constantly dying and something else is born. The child dies to the young girl and the girl to the woman etc. But the man who is after Self-realization is working for immortality. When living and working in the world one's creative power is exhausted in the pursuit of sense objects so one may come to feel weak, tired or ill.
But by striving after Self-realization one's creative power is preserved and strengthened.
While the person who lives in the world takes pleasure in parties, meeting people etc, the one who is out for Self-realization will take pleasure in meditation, singing the praises of God, reading books of wisdom, listening to discourses by great souls and mixing with those who are pilgrims on the path.
- Death Must Die, p. 529

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 29, 2017, 10:28:36 AM »

General Discussion / Re: Swami Sivananda's Teachings and Quotes
« on: October 28, 2017, 06:57:51 PM »
The service of the Guru is not an old-fashioned system, and it is indeed the system that will prevail and work even today, and it has to work for all time; because the Guru is not to be regarded as a person, though for all outward vision the Guru may look like any person.- Swami Krishnananda

Today ( Sat 28 Oct 2017 ) is Sri Swami Krishnanandaji Maharaj's 16th Punyatithi Aradhana.
Here is what Swami Sivananda said about him
He is a master of practically every system of Indian thought and Western philosophy. ?Many Sankaras are rolled into one Krishnananda,? ? ?I Marvel at Krishnanandaji?.

- Swami Sivananda

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 28, 2017, 12:25:49 PM »

Here is a link to Eka Shloki of Sri Adi Shankara .I am not aware of the Bhagavan Ramana's Eka Shloki and it is possible he would have given a Tamil Version of the same like the way he translated many works of Adi Shankra from Sanskrit To Tamil

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 27, 2017, 08:24:56 AM »
Keeping the mind focused while doing worship

Guru ? Jagadguru Sri Sri Abhinava Vidyatirtha Mahaswamiji was deeply engrossed in the performance of Maanasa Puja to Sri Tarakeshwar. While Sri Sannidhanam and the Tarakeshwar Mathadhipati used the materials to offer worship, the Mahaswamiji had remained motionless and after an hour exclaimed with great satisfaction that He had worshipped the Lord by keeping Him in Ratna Simhasanam and offering various stotras and puja materials. The Jagadguru described that He had seen His Guru as an example given in the name of the Goddess ? Antarmukha Samaradhyaa. Hence it is essential to engage in worship of God without allowing the mind to wander.
Copyright: Dakshinamnaya Sri Sharada Peetham, Sringeri

General topics / Re: Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: October 26, 2017, 07:49:38 AM »
Thanks Sri Ravi for the links and will go through the same .

General topics / Re: What is Self Inquiry ?
« on: October 25, 2017, 02:59:02 PM »
Dear udai

Thanks for your reply . My question on the origin of thoughts has a different reason might be can be taken up in a different thread and I do not want to the spoil this thread on "self enquiry " .I will articulate better my doubts in a separate thread either today or tomorrow .

General topics / Re: What is Self Inquiry ?
« on: October 25, 2017, 02:19:33 PM »
thoughts by nature are instantaneous. they come and vanish by themselves. we need not do anything about that.

How does though originate ? What determines the difference in thoughts that emerge in various people's minds ? Is it past karma , present karma or is the whole thing just random ?

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: October 20, 2017, 06:59:31 PM »
Humphreys: Master! Can I help the world? Maharshi: Help yourself and you will help the world.

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