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We all know Bhagwan Ramana has sung Arunachala Stuti Panchakam honoring Arunachala at Thiruvanamalai .
I would like to know which other saints have sung songs in praise of Arunachala preferably the famous Saivite Saints - Jnana Sambandhar , Manicka Vachagar , Thirunavukarassar , SundaraMorrthy Nayanar  etc

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General topics / Happy Deepavali 2012 Greetings to Everyone
« on: November 11, 2012, 04:27:02 PM »


Dear Friends
Wish you and your family a Happy Deepavali 2012 .


On the occasion of Deepavali, I am giving below the message of Swami Sivanada

Many Deepavali festivals have come and gone. Yet the hearts of the vast majority are as dark as the night of the new moon. The house is lit with lamps, but the heart is full of the darkness of ignorance.

O man! Wake up from the slumber of ignorance. Realise the constant and eternal light of the Soul, which neither rises nor sets, through meditation and deep enquiry.

May you all attain full inner illumination! May the supreme light of lights enlighten your understanding! May you all attain the inexhaustible spiritual wealth of the Self! May you all prosper gloriously on the material as well as spiritual planes!

- Swami Sivananda's Deepavali Message

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Annamalai Swami rememberance day
Annamalai Swami, a lifelong devotee of Sri Ramana Maharshi, was absorbed in his Master on November 9, 1995. He was 89-years-old.


Two ways of life is seen in Bhagavan devotees. One based on service to the ashram and the other a deeply contemplative life according to the teachings of Bhagavan. Annamalai Swami’s life is unique in that he combined serving the ashram with living spiritually according to the teachings of Bhagavan. Annamalai Swami had the rare experience of becoming blissful by the touch of Bhagavan though the conversation was about drugs. We read in Talks: When Sri Bhagavan was taking His bath a few bhaktas were around Him, speaking to themselves. Then they asked Him about the use of ganja (hashish). Sri Bhagavan had finished His bath by that time. He said: “Oh ganja! The users feel immensely happy when they are under its influence. How shall I describe their happiness! They simply shout ananda! ananda. . .” Saying so, He walked as if tipsy. The bhaktas laughed. He appeared as if He stumbled, placed His hands round ‘Annamalai Swami’ and cried “ananda! ananda!”‘A’ records that his very being was transformed from that time. He had remained an inmate for the past eight years. He further says that his mind now remains at peace.
Talks 530. The following is taken from the diary of Annamalai Swami, a good devotee of Sri Bhagavan and resident of Sri Ramanasramam:The Teachings of Sri Ramana Bhagavan. (1) That man who is active in the world and yet remains desireless, without losing sight of his own essential nature, is alone a true man. This was in answer to the Swami who wanted to retire into a cave for practising meditation. (2) He asked about sannyas. Should not a man renounce everything in order that he might get Liberation? M.: Even better than the man who thinks “I have renounced everything” is the one who does his duty but does not think “I do this” or “I am the doer”. Even a sannyasi who thinks “I am a sannyasi” cannot be a true sannyasi, whereas a householder who does not think “I am a householder” is truly a sannyasi.

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Arunachala-Live Camera Page
http://www.arunachala-live.com/
The web site is dedicated to the service of devotees and followers of Arunachala.On the main camera page we hope to provide the opportunity, wherever one lives, to experience the presence of the hill. There are many moods of Arunachala, we hope to show you some of them.

Recently several new features have been added. The daily chanting of the Tamil Parayana from Sri Ramanashram and a new photo gallery to display our collection of photographs and contributions from other devotees.
http://www.arunachala-live.com/gallery/



Posts from arunachala-live

http://arunachala-live.com/wordpress/

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Mountain Path Editorial - Power of the Bhagwan's Photograph
There have been some questions recently on why we have been sharing photos of Bhagavan on this page( i.e FaceBook) , when He always said He was not the body.

The attached editorial that appeared in the July-Sept 2011 edition of the Mountain Path journal, is an excellent response. We encourage everyone to read this well-written article on the potency of Bhagavan's photographs to the spiritual aspirant.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1E4DhA8Q4MrRmNYTmtDNUhYMzQ/edit?pli=1

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General Discussion / How many days makes one mandalam?
« on: October 08, 2012, 12:13:43 PM »
I want to get clarified How Many days make one Mandalam . When do some stotra chanting ( like Vshnu Sahasranama etc ) for 1 Mandalam then does it mean we chant it for 40 days or 42 or 45 or 48 days ?
Some say it is 40 but others give different nos . I know it does not matter much if we chant for few more days the names of God but just for technical purpose I want to know  whether it is 40 days or more than 40 days so that when I finish exactly 1 Mandalam of Parayanam of any stotra then I can make some special dish as Prasadam and do a special Pooja for almighty after I complete 1 Mandalam and restart the next Parayana .
So hoping for inputs from members here .
Om Peace .

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The Srimad Bhagavata / Eknath's Bhagavatha
« on: October 06, 2012, 01:21:58 PM »
Dear Friends

I read in David Godman's book on Papaji ( Nothing Ever Happened ) that Papaji used to read Eknath's Bhagavatha and once in Haridwar he spent nearly a week reading it on the banks of the Ganges .

Can anyone share what is so special about Eknath's Bhagavatha ?

I have the Bhagavatha of Gita Press and also the one published by Ramana Ashram by S.S.Cohen but yet to read seriously both these texts .

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Dear Friends

It is well known that Arunagiri Nathar got his enlightenment at Arunachaleshwara Temple in Thriuvanamalai with Lord Subramanya giving him the Upadesa and Darshan after which he started composing many beautiful songs on Lord Subramanya .
Except Kandhar Anubuthi ,I am not aware of any songs in Thirupuggazh .

The following are my questions :
1) Did Arunagiri Nathar sing any song in praise of Aruncahala ( either deity or hill ) apart from Lord Subramanya  ?
2) What was Bhagwan's opinion of Thirupugazh / Arunagiri Nathar ? Did he ask people to read Thirupugazh ?
3) Any useful details regarding Thirupugazh i.e its basic contents , philosophy , etc

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General topics / Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi
« on: October 03, 2012, 07:02:27 AM »
Ramana Maharshi and Mahatma Gandhi

Saw this piece in Ramana Ashram Face Book Updates on the occasion of Gandhi Jayanti on 2 Oct 2012  and wanted to share with all of you .

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Courtesy Karthik Venkatsubramanian On the night of January 30th, the news of Mahatma Gandhi’s death became known everywhere. I heard the news at home only, because women cannot be in the Ashram in the nights. I went at 7-30 next morning. A prayer was being broadcast over the radio. The news of the death was in the newspapers, and Bhagavan reading it and hearing the prayer,said, “This is the prayer of people who prayed like that throughout his life.” The song “Vaishnava Janato” was broadcast over the radio and Bhagavan listened to it sadly. At 9-45, Bhagavan was about to go out when a newspaper reporter came and requested him to give his views on the tragedy so that they might be published.Bhagavan, his voice choked with emotion, said, “For the Mahatma’s death in this tragic manner, every person’s heart is mourning. What is there in particular that I could say? Who is there who is not grieved? If I say anything, you will publish it and then, one after another, people will come and ask me. What is the good of it?” So saying, Bhagavan sent the reporter away and went for his walk. On his return, “Vaishnava Janato” was again being broadcast and tears fell from Bhagavan’s eyes.At 4-30 that afternoon, all the ladies began to sing “Raghupati Raghava Rajaram”.With tears in his eyes Bhagavan signed to us to continue. At 5 o’clock the conch shell blew and in view of the Mahatma’s death a special arati (waving of lights) was offered in the Mother’s temple. When the sacred ash and vermilion powder were brought,Bhagavan took them with great reverence.

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General topics / Discussion on the Quotes of Shankaracharya's
« on: September 29, 2012, 11:46:53 AM »
Dear Friends

I opening a new thread that is maintained exclusively for discussion of quotes related to Shankarachara's right from Adi Shankaracharya till the present ones .

I had already opened another thread on the same where I have requested only the quotes to be posted for meditative reading and not for discussion .I thank Sri Ravi for giving me this suggestion .
Since doubts will definitely arise ,I have opened a separate thread for discussing the quotes related to the Shankaracharya's .

Now the reason why I chose Shankaracharaya's was that they are the formal un-broken lineage of Advaita and Sanathana Dharma as established by Sri Adi Shankara more than 1000 years back .
Though outwardly they may seem to stress the ritualistic way of life but their ultimate goal is only Atma Gnana which Bhagwan  Ramana took it up directly .
So in the end Adi Shankara and Bhagwan Ramana both meet and in fact Bhagwan Ramana has himself translated many works of Adi Shankara in to Tamil .
I am neither an authority on Adi Shankara's teachings and commentaries nor on Bhagwan Ramana's teachings and works and hence I will not be contributing much in these discussions and I leave it to other seniors here to clear the doubts of any quotes posted here .
Om Peace .

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General topics / Quotes from Shankaracharya's
« on: September 28, 2012, 11:23:29 AM »
I would like to open a new thread to share quotes from all Shankarachara's - Adi Shankaracharya , Kanchi Shankaracharaya's and Sringeri Shankaracharya's . The quotes will be primarily related to Advaita , Atma Jnana , Bhakti but sometimes also have inputs related to Dharma

Starting with the first quote from Sri Bharati Teertha Mahaswamigal : I suggest people to just read and reflect on the same and not engage in discussions about it .Those who have quotes from the above acharyas may feel free to share the same here .
By the way discussions on the quotes here can be carried in rough note book open forum.



An arrow set on the bow string, and ready to be discharged may well be withheld. Similarly, past actions (sanchita karma) that are ready to produce reactions, are rendered barren by the power of Atma Jnana of a Jnani. Hence when the body of the knower of Truth falls, there shall be no further births.
- Sri Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamigal

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The Swami Syndrome

The following article came after Nityananda was exposed on TV .But the message is important and warning for many people especially Urban Middle Class youth you get trapped in the programs and activities of many New Age Gurus .Note : I am not against many of the New Age Gurus or their programs mentioned in this article but want people to take what is essential and useful for them and handle their life which is in front of them instead of living in the myth that everything is rosy after attending few programs or courses offered by these new age Gurus .
http://theanarchyfix.wordpress.com/


Another day. Another Swami. Over the last few days, all television channels have been abuzz with news of the Nithyananda scandal, a sting operation which has captured the swami in a compromising position with a popular actress. As expected, this has incensed the general public who have damaged his ashrams and burnt his effigies. A swami getting exposed is not a new occurrence. In spite of this, why do people fall prey to these fraudsters time and again? To understand this, one needs to take an in depth look into this complex relationship.

A country like India has never been in dearth of religious gurus. From the usual street corner tantrik or fakir to high profile gurus such as Sai Baba, Amrita, DGS Dinakaran etc, the gurus are many. In fact, the gurus would probably outnumber the different gods of all religions put together. Traditionally, their roles were mostly restricted to performing gimmicks such as vomiting lingams and necklaces, giving out oracles (arul vaaku) and spewing out some Sanskrit mumbo jumbo which no one can make any sense of. People like DGS Dinakaran made their riches by organizing miracle gatherings where ‘acts of god’ were performed. This included things like people suffering from incurable diseases being cured instantly, the physically challenged being able to walk etc. In addition to making millions out of people’s misery, these people often wielded powerful political clouts which gave them elite status. Most often, the people who were followers of these gurus were poles apart. They were either the super rich or the very poor. But this trend took a change during the mid 90s. With the advent of globalisation, not only did the society in general begin to evolve, so did the gurus. With a burgeoning middle class, the swamis adopted new techniques to tap this new market.

Though globalisation has been a bane for many, it has also been a boon for some.
With more and more multinationals setting shop in various metros, the young and educated middle class benefited the most from the job opportunities created by these new ventures. Though their new careers helped them procure the material comforts which they have always dreamt of, the stressful work life left them burnt out with little time or energy to enjoy those riches. Instead of introspecting into the reasons and system which has led to such a situation, more of these ‘educated and knowledgeable’ people went in search of gurus who will be able to rid them of all these worries. The gurus capitalised on this need and came up with different fancy ideas to make money. Programs such as ‘The Art of Living’ by Ravishankar, ‘LifeBliss Foundation’ by Nithyananda, “Transcendental Meditation movement” by Mahesh Yogi claim to show us how to lead a better life through Yoga and meditation.

A closer look at all these programs and discourses will show all that these gurus preach are basic facts of life known by everyone. But each one claims that their program is the only means by which one can achieve happiness and peace. And these programs do not come cheap. They are specifically designed for the corporate world and cost thousands of dollars. Naturally, the participants feel rejuvenated at the end of the program. If someone is housed in a serene environment with all facilities for a few days and does nothing but relax and enjoy clean and fresh air, they are bound to feel good. There is nothing spiritual or magical about it. But this temporary escape will vanish when reality returns. When these gurus get exposed, it obviously aggravates the followers because all these days they were being fed with crap that ‘worldly pleasures’ are bad and one needs to rid themselves of such ‘pleasures’ in order to achieve ‘true happiness’. When they see the same guy who said such things indulging in those ‘pleasures’, they feel cheated. Their misery is analogous to that of people who lose money by investing heavily in chit funds. They are not angry that they have been foolish enough to let themselves be cheated by someone who only told them those things that they wanted to hear; they are just angry that they didn’t choose the ‘right’ guru.

Even when these swamis get defamed, no doubt some people will still continue to stand by them. Others will continue their quest to find a ‘more effective’ guru. Its almost as if they need one guru or the other to tell them how to lead their lives. Unless they realize that the real reason for their miseries is the capitalist fueled economies and that these gurus are actually encouraged and supported by the very same biggies who exploit them, there will be no reprieve from this syndrome. Today, it is Nithyananda. Tomorrow, it’ll be someone else.

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General topics / Muruganar Samadhi Day 2012 at Ramana Ashram
« on: September 13, 2012, 05:25:20 PM »
Following is the piece I found in Ramana Ashram Face Book Site :
Murugunar, one of the foremost devotees of Bhagavan, attained Samadhi on new moon day in the Tamil month of Avani. As there are two new moons in the month of Avani, Sri Ramanasramam will observe the function on September 15 following Hindu Panchangam. In honor of the divine poet Murugunar, devotees have organized a three day function at Sri Ramanasramam. Muttruodhal(complete narration) of Tiruvachakam and Ramana Sannidhi Murai. Today ( i.e Thu 13 Sept 2012 ) Tiruvachakam was narrated by a group of devotees. Tomorrow Oduvar from Kapaleeswarar temple Mylapore will sing selected songs from these works.


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This is just to inform all interested people that there will be a complete Parayana of Thiruvachagam on Sun 2 Sept 2012 at Sri Kanchi Mahaswamy Anatha Mandapam , close to Sri Anantha Padmanabha Swamy Temple in Adyar ,Gandhi Nagar

Timings : 9 a.m - 5 p.m
Swami Omkarananda who is observing his Chaturmasya Vrata there is conducting it and many other Thiruvachagam scholars and Parayana Groups will be participating in the same .

Just now found in Sri Ramanaashram Saranagati News Letter the Sept 2012 issue , a short clip about a similar effort taken by one Sri Damodaran in popularizing Thiruvachagam complete Parayana at many places in Tamil Nadu .
Here is the news clip:

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Sri Damodharan of Tirukazhukundram, the town where Jnana Sambandar, Appar, Sundara,and Manikavachakar came and sang their hymns, began sponsoring biksha for 50 pilgrims
each day at the holy kshetra. Discovering the power of Manikavachakar’s great work, the
Tiruvachakam, Sri Damodharan began sponsoring all-day chanting programmes, first in Avudaiyar Kovil (for 1,000) in April, then Chidambaram (4,000) in June, and finally, a full-day programmei n Tiruvannamalai (very close to the Ashram) on the 29th July which hosted more than10,000 participants. The next programme is to take place in Kanchipuram in September

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To my best knowledge I have never heard Bhagawan talking much about Ramalinga Swamigal or about Thiru Arutpa .Any inputs on the same ?
I found lot of similarities between Ramalinga Swamigal ( Vallalar ) and Bhagawan.
1) Both Never Had a formal Guru
2) Both never wore Saffron and wore white
3) Both addressed God as Father ( Bhagawan : Father Arunachala , Vallalar : Arutperum Jyothi Andavar )
4) Both are considered as Incarnations of Lord Subramanya
5) Both have similar Maha Mantra :
Bhagawan : Arunacaha Siva Arunachala Siva , Arunachala Siva , Arunachala
Vallalar : Arutperun Jyothi , Arutperum Jyoti , Thani Perum Karunai , Arutperum Jyothi
6) Both of them composed great works in Tamil
7) Both did not give importance to any ritualistic worship .

These are my own opinions . I love both Vallalar and Bhagwan and love the songs composed by both of them .

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