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General Discussion / Thiruvalluvar Day , 15 Jan 2013
« on: January 15, 2013, 12:47:20 PM »

Tiruvalluvar Day marks the birth anniversary of the immortal Tamil Poet-Saint Thiruvalluvar. He is the author of Kural or Thirukural, a poetic composition of great antiquity in Tamil Literature which can be termed as a treatise on the art of living a happy and peaceful life. In 2013, the date of Thiruvalluvar Day is January 15.
It is believed that Thiruvalluvar wrote the Thirukural in the second century AD but there are also some scholars who believe that it was written in first century BC.
Thiruvalluvar in Thirukural diagnoses the intricacies of human nature and one will be captivated by his thorough knowledge of human psychology. Many of his insights on human mind are yet to be studied by modern psychology. His advices on various topics are sagacious and practical and are relevant in all times. Each new generation is attracted to his teachings in the Thirukural as it is not hampered by prejudice or dogma of any kind.
The birth anniversary of Saint Thiruvalluvar is observed on the day after Pongal festival in Tamil Nadu. On the same day, Mattu Pongal is also observed.
A huge statue of Thiruvalluvar is located at Kanyakumari and is adjacent to the Vivekananda Memorial in the middle of the sea.
This is the significance of the Thiruvalluvar Statue in Kanyakumari :
The statue of Saint Tiruvalluvar greets visitors at Kanyakumari, the southernmost tip of India. The 133 feet tall statue stands next to Vivekananda Memorial, a temple for meditation. The height of 133 feet signifies the 133 "Adhikarams". The pedastal measures 38 feet in height, representing the 38 "Adhikarams" of the first part of Kural "Aram".

One of the  Thirukual  mentioned by Bhagwan is the following one .

124.நிலையின் திரியாது அடங்கியான் தோற்றம்
மலையினும் மாணப் பெரிது.

The glory of a Brahma gnani who is firmly established in the Self without any wavering is higher than a great mountain".

Though there is lot of commentaries and translations available on Thirukural , very few of those can be considered to be authentic as according to Sage TGN ( Courtesy Sri Ravi ) , Tamil Scholars who had a solid knowledge of Tamil lacked required Spiritual Knowledge and Sanskrit Scholars who  had good spiritual knowledge lacked proper expertise in Tamil language with the result no one could give a complete vision of what Thiruvalluvar intended to convey .

Anyway  Thirukural is a very precious text and its message is not just to Hindus /Indians/Tamilians but for people the world over and I have taken upon myself to commit to memory the verses of Kural starting from today the Auspicious day of Thiruvalluvar Day and let me see how much I can commit to memory by the next Thiruvalluvar Day in 2014  :)

I have quoted one Kural quoted by Bhagwan but those who can share other  Kurals quoted  by Bhagwan can share the same here .

Humour / Puzzle 5 :What is the next number in this sequence ?
« on: January 13, 2013, 10:42:54 PM »
What is the next number in this sequence ?

4,12,84,3612 ?

Humour / Puzzle 4 : Who am I ?
« on: January 13, 2013, 07:53:32 PM »
I am a 7 letter word.
If i remove one letter from it , still it remains the same.
If i remove ten more letter from it , still it remains the same.
If i remove twenty more letter from it , still it remains the same.

Strangely when i remove all letters from it , still it remains the same.

Who am I ?

General Discussion / Significance of Hanuman Jayanthi
« on: January 11, 2013, 12:47:06 PM »

Note : In Tamil Nadu Hanuman Jayanthi is today i,e Fri 11 Jan 2013 while in Other parts of India ,it is in April  2013

Hanuman Jayanthi is observed during various time of year by different Hindu communities. Majority of the people observe it in the Chaitra month (March - April). In 2013, Hanuman Jayanti, or Hanumantha Jayanthi, in Tamil Month Margazhi is on January 11. In Tamil Nadu, it is observed in the Margazhi month or Margali Masam, which is one of the most auspicious months in Tamil Calendar.

It is widely believed that Lord Hanuman is present where the story of Lord Ram is recited. Therefore people read the Ramayana on the day or recite prayers dedicated to Rama. The Sundara Kandam chapter of Ramayana is read by most people.Special prayers are held on the day in Hanuman Temples and are visited by large number of devotees. At home, idols or pictures of Hanuman are thoroughly cleaned at dawn. Idols and pictures are smeared with Sindhoor. Sweets and bananas are offered to Hanuman.

Hanuman Jayanthi by Swami Sivananda

SRI HANUMAN is worshipped all over India—either alone or together with Sri Rama. Every temple of Sri Rama has the murti or idol of Sri Hanuman. Hanuman was the Avatara of Lord Siva. He was born of the Wind-God and Anjani Devi. He is also called by the names Pavanasuta, Marutsuta, Mahavira, Bajrangabali and Pavankumar.

Hanuman was the living embodiment of the power of Ram-Nam. He was an ideal selfless worker, a true Karma Yogi who worked desirelessly. He was a great devotee and an exceptional Brahmachari or celibate. He served Sri Rama with pure love and devotion, without expecting any fruit in return. He lived only to serve Sri Rama. He was humble, brave and wise. He possessed all the divine virtues. He did what others could not do—crossing the ocean simply by uttering Ram-Nam, burning the demon-king's city of Lanka, and bringing the sanjeevini herb to restore the life of Lakshmana. He brought Sri Rama and Lakshmana from the nether world after killing Ahiravana.

Hanuman possessed devotion, knowledge, spirit of selfless service, power of celibacy, and desirelessness. He never boasted of his bravery and intelligence.

He said to Ravana, "I am a humble messenger of Sri Rama. I have come here to serve Sri Rama, to do His work. By the command of Sri Rama, I have come here. I am fearless by the Grace of Sri Rama. I am not afraid of death. I welcome it if it comes while serving Sri Rama."

See how humble Hanuman was! How deep was his devotion to Sri Rama! He never said, "I am the brave Hanuman. I can do anything and everything."

Sri Rama Himself said to Hanuman, "I am greatly indebted to you,
O mighty hero. You did marvellous, superhuman deeds. You do not want anything in return. Sugriva has his kingdom restored to him. Angada has been made the crown prince. Vibhishana has become king of Lanka. But you have not asked for anything at any time. You threw away the precious garland of pearls given to you by Sita. How can I repay My debt of gratitude to you? I will always remain deeply indebted to you. I give you the boon of everlasting life. All will honour and worship you like Myself. Your idol will be placed at the door of My temple and you will be worshipped and honoured first. Whenever My stories are recited or glories sung, your glory will be sung before Mine. You will be able to do anything, even that which I will not be able to!"

Thus did Sri Rama praise Hanuman when the latter returned to Him after finding Sita in Lanka. Hanuman was not a bit elated. He fell in prostration at the holy feet of Sri Rama.

Sri Rama asked him, "O mighty hero, how did you cross the ocean?"

Hanuman humbly replied, "By the power and glory of Thy Name, my Lord."

Again Sri Rama asked, "How did you burn Lanka? How did you save yourself?"

And Hanuman replied, "By Thy Grace, my Lord."

What profound humility Hanuman embodied in himself!

There are many who want wealth in return for their services. Some do not want wealth, but they cannot resist name and fame. Others do not want any of these, but they want approbation. Still others want nothing, but they boast of their deeds. Hanuman was above all these. That is why he is recognised as an ideal Karma Yogi and an unsurpassed adept in Bhakti. His life is full of object lessons. Everyone should try his best to follow the noble example of Hanuman.

His birthday falls on Chaitra Shukla Purnima—the March-April full moon day.

On this holy day worship Sri Hanuman. Fast on this day. Read the Sri Hanuman Chalisa. Spend the whole day in the Japa of Ram-Nam. Hanuman will be highly pleased and will bless you with success in all your undertakings.

Glory to Hanuman! Glory to his Lord, Sri Rama!

Humour / Puzzle 4 : How best you can become a Crorepati ?
« on: January 10, 2013, 04:51:41 PM »
A KBC ( Kaun Banega Crorepati )  contest is being Organized and you have reached the finals and the final test for you are given 50 no of White Marbles and 50 nos of Black Marbles and also 2 sets of Jars .
You have the freedom to mix and put these 50+ 50 = 100  marbles in the 2 Jars in any way you want .But after putting the same , you will be blindfolded and the jars will be re-arranged and you are given a single chance only to pick a marble from any one Jar .If you pick a White Marble , you will get Rs.1  Crore Prize and if you pick a black marble you will not get any prize .
So how should you mix the black and white marbles in these 2 jars so that you have the maximum probability of getting a white marble in single stroke and becoming a Crorepati ?  :)

Humour / Puzzle 3: How Many Faces Can you see in this pic ?
« on: January 09, 2013, 10:36:13 PM »
This is a test of your Visual skills :

Humour / Puzzle No: 2 Solve this Simple Equation
« on: January 09, 2013, 07:59:03 PM »
What is the answer to the equation in this attached image ?

Note : 1) No Calculators to be used 2) Max Time is 1 minute  :)
Will post the answer tomorrow

Thoppukkaranam and Super-brain Yoga

Super-brain yoga is an old news but just trying to connect the link between this and deivathin kural…..
Today i.e Tue 8 Jan 2012 is the Aradhana Day of Kanchi Mahaswmaigal and I found it useful to share this info about how our own Traditional Practices as explained by Kanchi Mahaswamigal is now finding Scientific Validation

From Deivathin Kural::


பிள்ளையார் சந்நிதியில், இரண்டு கைகளையும் மறித்து நெற்றிப் பொட்டில் குட்டிக் கொள்ள வேண்டும். இப்படியே இரண்டு கைகளையும் மறித்துக் காதுகளைப் பிடித்துக் கொண்டு, முட்டிக்கால் தரையில் படுகிற மாதிரி தோப்புக் கரணம் போடா வேண்டும். இவை எதற்கு என்றால்:

யோக சாஸ்திரம் என்று ஒன்று இருக்கிறது. அதிலே நம் நாடிகளில் ஏற்படுகிற சலனங்களால் எப்படி மனசைஸயும் நல்லதாக மாற்றிக்கொள்ளலாம் என்று வழி சொல்லியிருக்கிறது. நம் உடம்பை பல தினுசாக வளைத்துச் செய்கிற அப்பியஸங்களால், சுவாசத்தின் கதியில் உண்டாகிக் கொள்கிற மாறுதல்களால் நம் உள்ளம் உயர்வதற்கான வழி அந்த சாஸ்திரத்தில் சொல்லப்பட்டிருக்கிறது. நெற்றிப் பொட்டில் குட்டிகொள்வது, தோப்புக்கரணம் போடுவது இவற்றால் நம் நாடிகளின் சலனம் மாறும்; மனஸில் தெய்வீகமான மாறுதல்கள் உண்டாகும். நம்பிக்கையோடு செய்தால் பலன் தெரியும்.

This is what Scientists have found and proved :

Humour / Solve this Puzzle : Where is the Missing $1?
« on: January 08, 2013, 02:36:27 PM »
 Three people check into a hotel. They pay $30 to the manager and go to their room. The manager suddenly remembers that the room rate is $25 and gives $5 to the bellboy to return to the people. On the way to the room the bellboy reasons that $5 would be difficult to share among three people so he pockets $2 and gives $1 to each person. Now each person paid $10 and got back $1. So they paid $9 each, totalling $27. The bellboy has $2, totalling $29. Where is the missing $1?

Try your hand with this, and post your answers if you can solve it.

Will announce the solution later

Sri Vaidyanatha Ashtakam
(The Octet to the king of physicians. by Adi Shankara )

Sri Vaidyanatha Ashtakam is a beautiful Hymn Composed by Adi Shankara and here in the link Bombay Sisters have rendered it beautifully  .Lord Shiva is considered as the king among physicians ( Lord Vaidyanatha) and many people visit Vaitheeswaran Koil  in Tamil Nadu to pray for curing of serious  illness/disease  when they/their family members  are affected by it  . Those who recite this prayer, Thrice a day with devotion,And pray the Lord Vaidyanatha,Who is with his consort Balambika,And who removes the fear of birth and death, Would get cured of all great diseases.Devotees who are desirous of getting cured of diseases are therefore  requested to recited the Vaidyanatha Ashtakam, thrice a day

Here is an excellent rendering of the same by Bombay Sisters

Sree rama soumithri jatayu veda,
Shadanadithya kujarchithya,
Sree neelakandaya daya mayaya,
Sree vaidyanathaya namasivaya.
I salute that God Shiva,

Who is the king among physicians,
Who is worshipped by Rama and Lakshmana,
Who is woshipped by Jatayu,
Who is worshipped by the Vedas,
Who is worshipped by Lord Subrahmanya,
Who is worshipped by the Sun God,
Who is worshipped by the Mars God,
Who is having a blue neck,
And who is the personification of mercy.

Ganga pravahendu jada dharaya,
Trilochanaya smara kala hanthre,
Samstha devairapi poojithaya,
Sree vaidyanathata namasivaya.

I salute that God Shiva,
Who is the king among physicians,
Who wears the flow of Ganges and the moon,
On his head,
Who has three eyes,
Who had killed the God of love and death,
And who is worshipped by all devas.

Bhaktha priyaya, tripuranthakaya,
Pinakine dushta haraya nithyam,
Prathyaksha leelaya manushya loke,
Sree vaidyanathaya namasivaya.

I salute that God Shiva,
Who is the king among physicians,
Who is the lover his devotees,
Who has destroyed the three cities,
Who holds the bow called Pinaka,
Who destroys bad people daily,
And who plays in the world of humans.

Prabhootha vadadhi samastha roga,
Pranasa karthre muni vandhthithaya,
Prabhakarennd wagni vilochanaya,
Sri vaidyanathaya nama sivaya.

I salute that God Shiva,
Who is the king among physicians,
Who cures all great diseases,
Like rheumatism and arthritis,
Who is saluted by great sages,
And to whom, the sun god,
Moon and God of fire are eyes.

Vakchrothra nethrangiri viheena jantho,
Vakchrothra nethrangiri sukha pradaya,
Kushtadhi sarvonnatha roga hanthre,
Sri Vaidyanathaya nama sivaya.

I salute that God Shiva,
Who is the king among physicians,
Who blesses those beings,
Who have lost their speech, hearing, sight and ability to walk,
With these abilities,
And who provides cure,
For devastating diseases like leprosy.

Vedantha vedhyaya jagan mayaya,
Yogiswara dhyeya Padambujaya,
Trimurthy roopaya sahasra namne,
Sri vaidyanathaya nama sivaya.

I salute that God Shiva,
Who is the king among physicians,
Who can be known through vedantha,
Who is spread through out the universe,
Who has a lotus feet ,
That is meditated upon by great sages,
Who is of the form of the holy trinity,
And who has thousand names.

Swatheertha mrudbasma brudanga bajam,
Pisacha dukha arthi bhayapahaya,
Athma swaroopaya sareera bajaam,
Sri Vaidyanaathaya namasivaya.

I salute that God Shiva,
Who is the king among physicians,
Who removes all suferings,
Caused by bad spirits, sorrows and fears,
By dip in his holy tank,
By the holy ash in the temple,
And by the mud below the neem tree of the temple,
And who is the personification of soul,
Occupying human body.

Sree neelakandaya vrushaba dwajaya,
Sarakkanda basmadhya abhi shobithaya,
Suputhradarathi subagyathaya,
Sri vaidyanathaya nama sivaya.

I salute that God Shiva,
Who is the king among physicians,
Who has a blue neck,
Who has the the bull on his flag,
Who shines by flowers, sacred ash and sandal,
Who grants good children and good wife,
And who blesses us with all good luck.

Balambikesa vaidyesa bava roga haredisa,
Japen nama thrayam nithyam maha roga nivaranam.

Those who recite this prayer,
Thrice a day with devotion,
And pray the Lord Vaidyanatha,
Who is with his consort Balambika,
And who removes the fear of birth and death,
Would get cured of all great diseases.

133rd Jayanthi Celebrations of Bhagwan Ramana  today i.e Sat 29 Dec 2012

Why we should read the Bhagavat Geeta or other spiritual books even if we can't understand it -

An old farmer lived on a farm in the mountains with his young grandson. Each morning, Grandpa was up early sitting at the kitchen table reading his Bhagavat Geeta.

His grandson wanted to be just like him and tried to imitate him in every way he could.

One day the grandson asked, "Grandpa! I try to read the Bhagawat Geeta just like you but I don't understand it, and what I do understand, I forget as soon as I close the book. What good does reading the Bhagawat Geeta do?"

The Grandfather quietly turned from putting coal in the stove and replied, "Take this coal basket down to the river and bring me back a basket of water."

The boy did as he was told, but all the water leaked out before he got back to the house.

The grandfather laughed and said, "You'll have to move a little faster next time," and sent him back to the river with the basket to try again. This time the boy ran faster, but again the basket was empty before he returned home. Out of breath, he told his grandfather that it was impossible to carry water in a basket, and he went to get a bucket instead.

The old man said, "I don't want a bucket of water; I want a basket of water. You're just not trying hard enough," and he went out the door to watch the boy try again.

At this point, the boy knew it was impossible, but he wanted to show his grandfather that even if he ran as fast as he could, the water would leak out before he got back to the house. The boy again dipped the basket into river and ran hard, but when he reached his grandfather the basket was again empty.

Out of breath, he said, "SEE.... it is useless!"

"So you think it is useless?" The old man said, "Look at the basket."

The boy looked at the basket and for the first time realized that the basket was different. It had been transformed from a dirty old coal basket and was now clean, inside and out.

"Son, that's what happens when you read the Bhagavat Geeta or any other other piritual books You might not understand or remember everything, but when you read it, you will be changed, inside and out. That is the work of Lord Krishna or other saints and Gods in our lives."

Operating System and Software Issues / Regarding Kindle Reader
« on: December 28, 2012, 11:10:16 AM »
Dear Friends

I love reading lot of books especially related to Yoga , Spirituality etc and since my book shelves are getting overloaded ,I have decided to shift to ebooks . Right now many of Bhagwan's books I read as PDF's on my computer and I am sure in future there will be Kindle versions of the same available .
Right now I have installed Kindle Reader software on my computer and have started to purchase many books from in Kindle format and so reading those books via Kindle reader software on my PC . I am now interested in getting an amazon Kindle reader itself .
I am not interested in getting any new Tablets like IPAD /Samsung etc as my primary purpose is just reading books (available on amazon Kindle ) and not much interested in the various Apps for tablets etc . Having books on Kindle reader will save me carrying books when I travel and also when the power ( TN has notorious power cuts that will only escalate in Summer ) is off I can read it without bothering to log in on my computer . Kindle Reader has ability to have hundreds of books saved in it and has a very long battery life unlike Laptops and get charged easily and also light weight .

Among the various Kindle version available I prefer to get  "Kindle Papwerwhite " , that gives the ability to read also in dark without a night lamp .
Has anyone of you got the above Kindle or any versions of the Kindle .
Kindly share your views ?

Om Peace
Om Peace

Dear Members
We have all been enjoying using this forum in one way or another and in this process we forget the main Man ,Graham who is working behind silently in hosting this site and also maintaining it to be free from Ads , Spammers and Trolls .
I feel we must also help contribute a bit to help Graham in maintaining this site . This is adfree site and setup purely on a Non Commerical Basis and I feel all of us must contribute at least a token amount annually to Graham to help him with the webhositing and maintenance charges .
I am open to this .Others can also share their views on the same . We need not consider this as paying to Graham but as a sort of simple Guru Dakshina to Bahgwan Ramana and Arunachala for connecting us .
I do not know how Graham is supporting this site but I do feel that we must make at least a token contribution voluntarily in supporting this site .Absolute no pressure on those who are not interested or who cant make it .So no guilt feelings here . .This is a proposal just to show our respect/ support  to Graham for helping us connect with Bhagwan Ramana and Arunachala .
I do not know whether Graham will be open to this but on my part I feel I must open this topic and I request other members to also share their views . How we can do this we can debate later but would like others views also on the same

Om Peace


Dear Graham and All Members here .
Advance New Year 2013 Greetings to all of you .
This is my first year in this forum and it has been only 5 months since I joined this forum ( I joined in August 2012 ) but the experience , knowledge and insights I got through this forum has been very excellent . From each and every member here I got something to learn , unlearn and it is an ongoing process .I do not consider this as just another forum but as a Online Ramana Satsang forum .  Associating with this forum has reconnected me back with Bhagwan's Teachings ( thanks to Subramaniam Sir ) as well as the Traditional Teachings of Advaita  Vedanta ( thanks to Tushnim for the same ) and I do not see any contradictions in the same .I consider Traditional Advaita Teachings help us understand and appreciate Bhagwan Ramana much better if we just take the essence of the sastras ( or where it points to ) ,and not get trapped in the un-necessary "sastric vasanas".
Also through this forum I got to reconnect back to the teachings of Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa via the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna , a book that I read when I was young and lost touch of the same and through this forum got back my interest in it . Saint Ramakrishna has his own unique way of conveying the subtle  truths in simple way .Thanks to Sri Ravi for creating that interest .
Also this forum helped me appreciate the richness of Tamil Scriptures ( Bhagwan's Tamil Works , Thevaram , Thiruvachagam , Divya Prabandham ,Thirukural ) etc and thanks once again to Subramaniam Sir for creating that interest in me .His daily dedicated posting on many of these scriptures has made me feel bit ashamed that being a Tamilian how could I have missed out on these treasures .Anyway better late than never I feel  :)
The daily quotes and posts of Nagaraj , Jewell , Hari , Prashanth , Sanjay's practical insights  and Anil's dedication to Bhagwan's direct path , Kskat's serious outpourings ( I appreciate the honesty in his posts ) ,Vinod's simple surrender to Bhagwan Ramana and Arunachala without getting trapped in much theory / teachings , CGuru's mature advice at times , Beloved Abstract's one liners not to get trapped in our stories + many others contribution here ( I am not aware of the people who contributed in the past and can only relate to those whom I encountered after August 2012 ) and all of them have helped me and enriched me in one way or the other and I look forward to more enriching time in this forum in the coming year also .
I am sorry one of our member Lata went through a personal family tragedy and I hope by Bhagwan's grace she is back here and they are able to cope up with the loss in the family .
I am sorry if I forgot someone to mention .
But the biggest Credit must go to Graham for creating this forum and for giving us space to express our thoughts ,feelings related to Bhagwan and other teachers .
I thank you very much Graham for creating this online forum and appreciate your dedication to Bhagwan Ramana and Arunachala .

So once again Wish all of you a Happy New Year 2013 and hope by the grace of Bhagwan Ramana and Arunachala we continue to get strengthened on our spiritual path through this forum and continue contributing here and enrich ourselves as well as others .

Om Namo Bhagavate Sri Ramanaya
 Om Sri Arunachaleswaraya Namaha

Om Peace Peace Peace

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