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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Ramana Periya Puranam
« on: November 09, 2013, 05:18:08 PM »
Dear Lathaji,

I am sorry. I am only now seeing this thread as I got busy with 'life'.  Here is an explanation for the two versions. 

When I was in Tiruvannamalai early this year, I told the President's wife how much the people on this forum liked the "Gospel".  She seemed surprised that such a book exists.  Ganeshan anna must have checked it out and realized it was an unauthorized one, edited it to his satisfaction and has now published it through the AHAM website.  I haven't read the edited/authorized version yet but I am sure it is better than the unauthorized one. I know I cried through the first version. 

Here is what the AHAM website has to say:
May 28th, 2013

Greetings Friends,

Several years ago, AHAM (Association of Happiness for All Mankind) had the rare privilege of recording stories of 75 direct devotees of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi, as told by V. Ganesan, who has had the unique opportunity to move closely with most of them. In case you are not aware, V. Ganesan is the grandnephew of Sri Ramana Maharshi and the former general manager of Ramanasramam. He also served as editor of the ashram’s official magazine, Mountain Path, for many years.

Ganesan took the CDs of the original talks to India to have them carefully transcribed. He devoted the time necessary to get this monumental work painstakingly edited and to also incorporate old photos of devotees and events. This work is entitled: “Ramana Periya Puranam, (the Inner Journey of 75 Old Devotees of Sri Ramana Maharshi)".

Ganesan – its author and the sole copyright holder - is now humbly presenting “Ramana Periya Puranam” through the AHAM website.

There is another unauthorized version of the book that is circulating on the Internet. This version was not approved by Ganesan and is not edited to his satisfaction.

Ganesan has made it clear that only AHAM (Association of Happiness for All Mankind) is permitted to present this manuscript via the Internet, for no fee (or cost) to any reader. We are very grateful for the opportunity to present this approved version. We hope that these inspiring reminiscences will further illuminate the intimate relationship between Sri Ramana Maharshi and His close devotees.

In gratitude,

Stan Davis
Spiritual & Executive Director of AHAM

Arunachala / Re: Planning to Visit Arunachala
« on: November 08, 2013, 05:29:02 PM »
Namaste drbalajipsy:

The Karthigai Deepam will be lit on Nov 17th this year. However it will be lit every evening for 8 or 10 or 13  days AFTER Nov 17th as well.  The number of days is decided by the priests at the Arunachaleswarar temple through some calculation.

But 10 days BEFORE Nov 17th is the preparatory phase where in we clean our homes, our hearts, mend our relationships with family, friends and neighbours. If we have been cruel to animals or nature, we first acknowledge that, ask Arunachala for forgiveness and pray for guidance to mend our ways.   It is a time for intense spirtual practice to burn off the dross in us in preparation for the arrival of Lord Arunachala.  He never really left us because he is in every cell of our bodies but for our little minds, we bid good by to him after the 10 days of Karthigai Deepam and welcome him back on Deepam the next year.

I have sent you some info by email. Hope it is of help to you.

Child of Arunachala

Dear Atmavichar,

The Times of India article is only comparing idlis with what people eat in other regions of India. Travelling through Rajasthan and Gujarat, I found people eating jelabis for breakfast with their chai!!!!  Definitely idlis would be a healthier substitute.

So much rice can never be good.  On a recent trip to India, I found ragi idlis and oats idli mix. I think it was MTR company that has brought it out. So I bought them and made them upon my return home. They were so tasty. Besides, one packet can feed an entire family of big eaters.

I remember a time growing up in India, idlis were made occasionally. We just had brunch around 10-11 a.m. after morning hatha yoga, chanting and meditation. My grandparents lived well past 90 years and so did my dad - although he loved idlis. So this "must eat breakfast" is something being promoted by breakfast cereal companies in the west to boost their sales and Indians are picking it up.  Just my opinion!  So don't all pounce on me :-)

Child of Arunachala

Health & Welfare Issues / Re: Sattvic curry recipe for lentils or beens
« on: September 03, 2013, 02:09:57 PM »
Dear Atma vichar,

All these websites are lovely. Would you have something for fasting foods like for amavasya, mondays, shivaratri.... for those of us who are not able to do no food no water.

Child of Arunachala

Health & Welfare Issues / Re: Sattvic curry recipe for lentils or beens
« on: August 25, 2013, 12:39:13 AM »
Dear Atmavichar,

Thank you so much.  It is a really nice website.

Child of Arunachala

Dear Silent Green,

Thank you.  Is chanting the DKM a substitute for those who can't do the srividya pujai every day

Child of Arunachala

Dear Silentgreen,

Please write something on the Devi Khadgamala.


General Discussion / Re: garlic & onions
« on: July 28, 2013, 05:38:36 AM »
I will post the name of the book when I am able to. I am pretty sure you will be able to order it thru the Ramanasramam book store.

General Discussion / Re: garlic & onions
« on: July 27, 2013, 02:20:59 PM »
Dear Jyoti,

There is Kanakammal's book on Bhagavan's advice for women.  I think it is a translation of a stotram to Goddess Durga.  I don't remember the name of it but I borrowed it from Ramanasramam library.

As you enter the new library, Turn right, it is in the second row, in the first shelf from the right.   
It is one of the most amazing books I have read about what renunciation really means and how women too can do it. Lots of tips on what to eat, how to live e.g why we must fast during eclipse, Bhagavan was ok with onions but no water before a meal only after a meal.

Sorry, I don't remember the name of it.  It is a book written by Kanakammal

Ashrams / Re: Sri Ramana Darshan - Guru Poornima - 22.07.2013.
« on: July 25, 2013, 04:24:17 PM »
Dear Subramanian Sir,

The way you have written it, it feels like we were there for the celebrations. Thank you.

You must go on girivalam on foot one day. Just ask for grace and walk. All knee problems and other health problems will go flying out the body as you walk.

I love the koorungu thotam.  One day, I went to the Hanuman Temple on the Girivalam path and was surprised to be present when they feed the crows with a large vessel full of hot rice in the courtyard. I had never seen such a ceremony before. Ofcourse, there was one rascal crow that actually came into the temple and helped himself to a mouthful of rice, smiled at us and hopped out.  When I returned to the koorunga thotam, the monkeys seemed agitated to me until I decided to be brave and walk through it to the temple. As I was near the temple, a baby monkey, not more than a few days old, jumped from the wall down to my feet. I realised then that the monkeys intuitively knew that I had darshan of Lord Hanuman and were excited. That is why one of them fell at my feet while others watched.

Child of Arunachala

Namaste, Subramaniam sir,

I guess you all missed the point. I was not looking down upon westerners trying to interpret Hinduism, so much as saying don't look up to them because they are western.  There is a huge problem with that in India... no one can deny that. If you haven't lived the Hindu culture, how can you interpret it accurately enough? Even the best of translations by westerners have missed the real meaning of Sanskrit and Indian language words. There is a move by Hindus around the world to correct it.

Also, don't confuse the westerners from Bhagavan's time with the new age ones. The ones in Bhagavan's time were real yogis. Bhagavan himself has said that. So don't mix the two, ok. 

As far as I know, David Godman has never called himself a guru or collected followers, although he has been very generous with his time and knowledge. He will accept money for it if you give it to him (he too has to make a living, right?) but he has never asked for it. 

The same goes for Graham. He has refused to take money for this forum. To quote back entire posts is a waste of his resources and those of others who have to download useless extra lines. How much respect is there for Mother Nature? How much progress are people going to make with self inquiry with this kind of carelessness or obstinacy.?  My point in quoting Swami Sivananda was that a lot of cleansing of the senses has to take place before meditation in any form can begin.  Even Bhagavan realized that. Some he gave work to do in the kitchen, others he let be. If you look carefully, to this day they practice that in Ramanasramam - all the pujai, the chanting, the silence, seva, charity, respecting nature - the animals, birds, trees and plants. In order to learn from any cow, donkey or dog, we have to do the spiritual practices to get to that point. Most people are not there yet. I can see that from their reactions to my post.

Writing, going on the internet, watching TV, going to the movies, talking excessively are all the result of an outward flowing mind. Bhagavan spoke through silence, observation and renunciation.  All the great spiritual masters in India have taught that to their disciples. They said reign in the senses and prescribed various methods to do that before we can sit still and know that we were God to begin with.

Anyway, that is all I have to say on this matter. Those who ready, will get it. Others will have a knee jerk reaction to it. 


This is just my opinion.  In the land of Lord Shiva, why go after these half baked western teachers or to so called gurus (even if they are Indian). They will catapult you directly into meditation without any preparation just to separate you from your money.  According to the Hindu system meditation is last of eight steps. If the foundation is strong, the structure will be strong. 

An enlightened guru wrote this:

"True meditation happens because of soul evolution. We evolve into meditative practices from bhakti, the yoga of devotion. The transition is earned through past good karmas, not chosen as an intellectual or recreational pastime. As the transition of external worship to internal worship is made, the devotee has to face all bad karmas cheerfully and honestly in order to resolve them and move forward.

Sitting in a state of real meditation, one must be more alive and alert than a tight-rope walker suspended without a net on a taut cable three hundred feet above the Earth. Do you suppose that this man is sleepy, that he allows his mind to wander? No, every muscle and sinew of his body, every thought, every feeling within him, is absolutely under his control. It is the only way he can maintain the balance which keeps him from plunging to the earth beneath. He must be the master of himself, all the while seeking to identify with his pure soul being, not allowing attention to be pulled here and there--to the physical body, to outside sounds, to thoughts of the past or to concerns about the future. "

Swami Sivananda wrote if you say you are doing self inquiry, you are only kidding yourself.  It happens on its own. It is the last stage of a series of steps that must be taken to reign in the senses and then we are ready for meditation - until then Pujai, japam, seva or selfless work for an enlightened guru or for the poor and needy is the way to go.

I see a few people spend so much time on the internet on forum like this and I wonder if they spent it on practice.  An ounce of practice is worth more than just reading and writing about it.  Just my opinion.

General Discussion / Re: Rough Notebook-Open Forum
« on: July 16, 2013, 01:24:47 AM »

Was anyone from this forum at the ashram during navaratri a few years ago when a group sang the Om Namah Sivaya mantra in different ragas. It was unbelievably sweet and powerful. It felt like Arunachala himself must have had to get up from the mountain and sit and enjoy the chanting in the Ramanasramam hall.   I dont remember the name of the group or if they have brought it out as a CD. Would any one here know?

Child of Arunachala

namaste, Silent green,

This is such a beautiful thread. I am only now seeing it.  Please keep it coming.

Child of Arunachala

General Discussion / Re: Lalitha Sahasranama
« on: July 04, 2013, 12:58:58 PM »
Thank you so much.

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