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General Discussion / Re: Nochur Venkatraman
« on: July 07, 2014, 01:58:25 PM »
Dear ksksat27 ji,

When you seek some one's forgiveness (and it is given in good faith, as in this case),  you shouldn't go and do the same thing that irked them in the first place. You did just that. Quote my entire post back to me especially when your reply was the very next post to mine.

It doesn't matter how many CD of talks you own, ultimately it's the arrogance, stubborn, disrespectful personality within yourself that has to be worked on.  Only you can do it. Listening to someone else's experiences isn't going to do it for you. Glory to the person who did the practices to have all this wisdom. But what about you? Something to think about.

I take back my acceptance of your insincere apology.  :(

General Discussion / Re: Nochur Venkatraman
« on: July 04, 2014, 08:55:39 PM »
Dear ksksat27 ji,

Apology accepted  :)

It looks like you have been doing serious spiritual practices. Pilgrimage, japa, danam, girivalam. That is great.  No matter how many lectures we listen to, in the end we will all have to do the practices to realize the Truth for ourselves.

Have a great weekend. 

Child of Arunachala

Quote from: atmavichar100 link=topic=8232.msg63894#msg63894 date=140351348

This is the current daily activity schedule of Sri Ramana Ashram  .

If someone can follow one of these schedules daily at 8 a.m, 5 p.m /6.30 p.m  at their own homes then it would be great .

More ideal is if someone can follow all the 3 schedules at the same time in their homes .
I like this. Devotees actually doing the sacred Hindu spiritual practices and connecting directly with the Divine.

I know everyone will have great experiences and homes will be filled with Divine energy.

Child of Arunachala

Arunachala / Re: Surrendering a wish to Bhagavan and Arunachala
« on: June 06, 2014, 04:30:31 PM »
Namaste Jewell and Vinodji:

Yes, it will be nice to have more trees on the left side of the road and regular trimming of the ones on the right.

I can't say that about dogs. Much as I love them, their barking (all night long) disturbs me. 

Tiruvannamalai is very noisy and some of the noise is from TV sets. If you live in Ramana Nagar you know what I mean.

Early morning when the rest of us are just waking up, doing sun salutation, meditating or generally enjoying the quiet and beauty of Arunachala, TV sets will be turned on full blast to some Guru talking in some Indian language. So if you have two or three neighbours, there are two or three TV sets that are blasting out the same damn talk.   

I have promised myself that I will never donate to this guru who used to come to Tiruvannamalai regularly and cannot any more. Arunachala kept him away. HA! HA!  The lesson for him was that if you are guru, you are responsible for how your disciples/ devotees behave (or in this case misbehave and disturb the peace of their neighbours).

So, yes, I would recommend that there be no TV sets, radios or loudspeakers allowed within the city of Tiruvannamalai just as it is banned in Tirupati and Vaishno Devi .   

Frankly, in my opinion,  if you live in Tiruvannamalai and feel the need for a TV, then you are not ready for Arunachala. That is a dead giveaway.  YOU ARE JUST NOT READY FOR ARUNACHALA. "We have the money", "we are spending our retirement years here" or any such excuse is not acceptable. Find another place to pollute.

Also, there are some people who talk very loudly and disturb the peace and then there are some who are so peaceful.  When I asked my maid servant why that is so in Tiruvannamalai, she replied: "Those people (not her community) eat a lot of salt and chillies. It makes them very agitated."   

Maybe community leaders or the local media can increase public awareness about this. People on the spiritual path should eat sattvic food without a lot of salt and chillies.  If you love your salt and chillies or pizzas for that matter, then find some place else to live until your vasanas let go of you.

Vinodji, I agree about the building of houses but that I am sure will come in time as the government, the Arunachaleswarar temple  and Ramana Ashram play a greater role in the development of Tiruvannamalai.

Come, let us pray that Arunachala blesses them with making the right decisions and they have the money, technology and will power to quieten and beautify Tiruvannamalai quickly. I have faith it will happen. The government has managed to enforce order in Tirupati and Vaishno Devi, I am sure it is capable of doing it in Tiruvannamalai as well.

Child of Arunachala

Arunachala / Re: Surrendering a wish to Bhagavan and Arunachala
« on: June 04, 2014, 10:11:48 PM »

I saw this in the latest Saranagati

Announcement: The Pradakshina Road and the Inner Path

The Tiruvannamalai municipality continues to make improvements to the hillround road with the widening of the road between the Ashram and the Bangalore road turn-off a few months back. urther widening is planned for other portions of the 14km hillround road for pilgrims convenience, especially to meet space demands on full moon days. Since the cramped conditions of the traditional path are being addressed, the inner path is likely to remain closed for the foreseeable future in order to reduce the likelihood of fire and give regreening initiatives a chance to thrive.

I hope this widening of the road doesn't mean more trucks and tourist buses driving on it like it were the highway.

Come, every one, please join me in praying for a clean, safe, QUIET and beautiful Tiruvannamalai

Child of Arunachala

General Discussion / Re: Nochur Venkatraman
« on: May 29, 2014, 04:31:32 AM »
P.S:  I found the exact para in post #6 of this thread. it is by Atma Vichar

General Discussion / Re: Nochur Venkatraman
« on: May 28, 2014, 04:18:58 PM »
As he (Nochur Venkataraman) says, Ramana has opened the greatest secret for salvation - the "Who am I" enquiry method which is the shortest and only method to finally reach the goal.

Dear Mohanji:

Sorry, I am only now seeing this. It is not true that self inquiry is the only method for self realization. Bhagavan, himself, said it wasn't. Kunju Swami (Bhagavan's trusted assistant) said in his autobiography published by Sri Ramanasramam, that Bhagavan said it wasn't the only method for self realization.

Usually meditation and self inquiry are the last steps of yoga - the last of the Yamas and Niyamas. Unless we have practiced the others, in this lifetime or in previous ones, meditation and self inquiry, are not the practices to do. The way we know this is when we sit for meditation are you able to slip effortlessly into a deep state. Put in lay man's terms it is like this: Once we have done and mastered all the other practices, the Divine HIMSELF will open the door and let us in.

I was told that  Sri Nochurji himself does japam. So I don't know if he would have said that self inquiry is the only way. I didn't hear him say that for myself. So I will not comment on it.

I know Sri Nochurji is a great speaker. However, on the spiritual path it is important to use our own discrimination. It is one of the yamas and niyamas.

My advice: don't accept everything anyone says just because there was one thing they said that resonated deeply within you. It is always good to establish your own link to the Divine and seek the truth. That is why we do the spiritual practices of Hatha Yoga, Pranayama, Japam, Pujai, Girivalam, Seva, pilgrimage. The Hindu religion is so full and so beautiful. Discover it for yourself. 

Just my thoughts. Don't all jump at me. :-)

Ksksat27ji, please don't put my entire post in quotes and comment on it. I find it really obnoxious. I think I have said it several times. :-)

Child of Arunachala

Namaste PKar,

Sorry, I am only now seeing this post. What the Devi is showing you is very profound. Please don't dissipate the blessings by posting it on an open forum or revealing it to anyone who is not your guru.

If you don't understand the visions or even dreams, ask the Devi for clarification. She will give it to you. From what I can see is that she is providing your protection. Acknowledge it and thank her for it.

I know how busy you are as a student in the U.S. but you are doing your best by chanting the Lalita Sahasranamam on Fridays. If you can, squeeze in a Tuesday as well. 

You seem quite evolved to be getting these visions. Treasure them rather than open them up to egoistic, stubborn, angry, hateful people on the spiritual path... you said you have posted this on two forums.... God knows who all are reading something so divine that is happening to you.  It is not to be shared.

As Lata said, if there is a Chinmaya Mission in your town, go there as often as your schedule will permit or to a Hindu Temple. Sit quietly and talk to the Devi..... but don't reveal these visions to anyone. Your answers will come. Of that I am sure.

Wish you all the best,
Child of Arunachala

General Discussion / Re: Ramesh – Auto-Rickshaw Driver - Part 1
« on: January 08, 2014, 05:53:21 PM »
Namaste, Paul

Thank you for posting Ramesh's phone number.  I was looking for it yesterday and realized it was saved on my Indian cell phone that I can't turn on in the west. :-( 

I hope your feet have healed and your daughter liked the dress you got her.

Child of Arunachala

General Discussion / Re: Ramesh – Auto-Rickshaw Driver - Part 1
« on: January 06, 2014, 03:10:10 PM »
Namaste, Paul:

I know Ramesh, the auto rickshaw driver, and it is heartbreaking to hear that he is going through challenges.  This Ramesh is so sincere and so devout, it is amazing the pearls of wisdom that drop from his mouth on my auto rides around Tiruvannamalai and he doesn't even realize it.  I, for one, never told him because I didn't want to spoil the spontaneity of it all.

Last year, my friend and I (both India born - foreigners) hired Ramesh for a trip around arunachala and what a trip it was. He took us to places we didn't know existed and while he stood outside we had the most amazing darshan of the dieties in peace and quiet that we never knew existed in Tiruvannamalai's Ramana Nagar.

Answers to questions we had came floating into our minds and when I looked at Ramesh he was grinning like he knew what was going on. That is when he shared with us his own story. 

Many years ago, he fell in love with a woman he really liked but his family opposed him not because there was something wrong with the girl but that they did not select her. Their ego was bruised. Regardless, Ramesh married that girl but was shocked when the family cut him off. He had no independent source of income and in a small town like Tiruvannamalai he had no options. He wanted to commit suicide in desperation but Arunachala had other designs for him.  As he was going to take the drastic step, Ramesh swooned like he had never experienced before. He lay down and fell into a deep sleep. 

When he woke up (after he doesn't know how long) someone was standing beside him shaking him. It was a donor who had a brand new rickshaw for him as a gift to make his living. To this day, Ramesh thinks it was Arunachala who came to give him that rickshaw. No wonder we all have so many good experiences when we ride it.  The moral, Ramesh told us, is that if we are sincere Arunachala himself will help us even if society turns against us.

Another thing that perturbed my friend and I was that the locals were very reluctant to rent their apartments to westerners. Ramesh told us that it is because a few westerners have commited suicide in Tiruvannamalai and the building owners were put in jail (for a long time) under suspicion that they killed them for money. It is a lot of trouble for the Indians to rent to foreigners. So they don't ... ofcourse then there is the drinking and partying.

We asked Ramesh why a few westerners that we knew ended up in mental hospital. They seemed to be doing sadhana sincerely.  Ramesh said: "When Indian Hindus go to the temple, we lay our problems at the feet of God and ask for help". When a westerner goes, he tries to pull a solution out of the diety. The solution is always what the person wants... that fits his goals in life...not what the diety wants to give and thinks we are ready to receive"   Ramesh felt that is where westerners get into trouble in Tiruvannamalai.   As if to demonstrate this point, when Ramesh left my friend and i at the Arunachaleswarar temple, Arunachala showed us. There was a western lady clinging on to one of the shiva lingams that line the side of the sanctum sanctorum. No amount of pleading with her not to touch the shiva lingas worked. Needless to say, when we saw her again outside, she seemed so crazy.

I totally agree with Paul that we must help Ramesh. Yes, money would be good but I am praying that someone helps him become financially independent. So, knowledge of what to do and money and a good heart to help one of Arunachala's (and Bhagavan's) devotee is what is required in this situation.

Ramesh is a sincere, loving and caring individual who always takes good care of us when we visit Tiruvannamalai.

Child of Arunachala

Health & Welfare Issues / Re: Sattvic curry recipe for lentils or beens
« on: December 20, 2013, 07:09:48 AM »
Dear Atma Vichar,

Very nice, thank you.

Child of Arunachala

General Discussion / Re: Kanchi Pontiffs' Case:
« on: November 28, 2013, 01:50:47 PM »
Dear Atma Vichar and Subramaniam sir:

The message for all of us in this is:  Follow Dharma and Dharma will protect.

Thank you Atma Vichar for posting the interview. It was very reassuring.

Child of Arunachala

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Ramana Periya Puranam
« on: November 23, 2013, 05:28:17 PM »
Dear Lathaji and Deepaji:

I was wondering if it was really possible for a spiritual person to survive  in today's corporate world in the west and imagine my surprise when I opened the page where I left off yesterday:

Ganesan Anna wrote:

I used to communicate with Paul Brunton because I wanted guidance from a devotee who made Bhagavan known all over the world. Though I wrote many letters inviting him to come and stay in the ashram, no reply came. But I persisted in sending him letters through his friends who were visiting.

In one of them, I raised this question: “Brunton, you had asked Bhagavan about work and wisdom. When you told Bhagavan, "You are in a jungle ashram, but I have to go back into the world and work to earn my livelihood. So, how can I live?‟

Bhagavan replied, "There is no difference between work and wisdom.‟

Since Bhagavan told you directly that there is no contradiction between work and wisdom, you will have clarity on this matter. Please share that with me.”

He replied with a short, beautiful letter which he sent through a friend: “Things happen to you, don‟t they? Now you think that things are being done by you. It is wrong. Things are done through you. Alter the attitude "done by me‟ to "done through me‟. Ramana Maharshi was the pure channel for the higher power to pass through. All these sages, saints and messiahs were channels for the higher power to pass through. You and I are also the same. There will be no difference between work and wisdom, if like the sages we too allow ourselves to be the channel for the higher power to pass through.” The moment you have the attitude that things are happening "through you‟, you will see everything becomes light. Jesus Christ said, “Be a light unto yourself.” What is the heaviness in you? It is the sense of doership, thoughts and memories of the past and the future. Give up that and accept and surrender to the higher power. You will be surprised at how light you feel!

Child of Arunachala

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Ramana Periya Puranam
« on: November 22, 2013, 05:12:15 PM »
Dear Lathaji:

I am slowing making my way through Ramana Periya Puranam. There are new photos that weren't there in the unauthorized version and so much more new information that I either missed or was not ready to understand when I read the first version. It is unbelievable Bhagavan's grace upon us.

One of the pictures is of Bhagavan walking near the ashram well where the present dining hall is. From now on, that spot will for ever be sacred to me when I line up for lunch at the ashram.

Thank you Ganeshan anna for bringing all this alive for us.

Child of Arunachala

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Ramana Periya Puranam
« on: November 11, 2013, 02:52:49 AM »
I am wondering if these devotees would have survived the corporate world in the west.  The lesson I am getting from these stories is surrender every situation to Bhagavan. He will get us through it.

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