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General topics / Re: Lessons from the Brahma-Vishnu Tussle: S. Raman.
« on: February 14, 2016, 01:02:28 PM »
Vishnu persisted with his efforts, and at  some point he realized the futility of his work.  He was able
to see clearly that there was a greater power than  his.  He returned and surrendered as a loser ti
the Infinite.  Is not surrender what is expected of anyone who is able to see clearly the finiteness of
oneself.  What is the general experience of any person who is very wealthy, but is struck by a tragedy?
He not only learns that all his wealth cannot get him what he needs, much less happiness that he desires
so much.  He begins to see the futility of belongings and eventually develops detachment from things
that are not ultimately useful.

On the other hand, what was the experience of Brahma?  He saw a flower falling from above, his intellect
started working in a very logical way, and he coached the flower to be a false witness buttressed by a
convincing argument.  He returned with this witness and strove to get himself declared the winner.
How could it ever have happened to the consort of goddess of learning?  Obviously, there is a lesson here
for us.  If the pursuit of knowledge is not undertaken in the right spirit and is confined to ephemeral things,
there is always the danger of it becoming a double-edged sword. Intelligence can become perverted,
in Sanskrit 'yukti becoming kuyukti', and that marks the fall of a person.  Knowledge usually picked up
through worldly senses and things must progressively and ultimately graduate to that of knowing oneself.
If that does not happen, then there is always potential for trouble.  It will make a person argumentative and
cunning, ready to coax others into colluding in what is believed to be the only right way of behavior, but
actually is immoral.  This is what possibly has been illustrated by Brahma's experience.

Arunachala Siva.   

Verse  235:

What appears cannot be real.  The basis is the real thing, and the appearance  is only through ignorance.

Verse  236:

As in the mother of pearl,  silver appears; so in the Atman, appears everything.  Though it is ignorance,
the basis is the Atman.

Nature of Brahman:

Verse 237:

Therefore,  the Supreme Soul is alone real -- One without a second, pure consciousness, without
any blemish, quiet,  beginningless, endless, beyond all actions, always Blissfulness itself.

Verse  238:

Dispelling all the distinctions that are created by Maya, it ever exists, -- unchangeable,  without parts,
not to be measured, without form, without name, endless, self conscious, -- and manifest alone 

Verse 239:

Beyond these three - knower, known, and knowledge, where there is no change at all, one Consciousness,
exits the Supreme.  The sages alone know such Atman.

Verse  240:

That which cannot be avoided, better than all, beyond the conception of mind, and words, that which
cannot be defined, perfect --know that as thine own Self.   


Arunachala Siva.       

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:46:16 AM »
Verse  10:

வெங்கட் புலிகிடந்த
   வெம்முழையிற் சென்றழைக்கும்
பைங்கட் குறுநரியே
   போல்வான் படைகொண்டு
பொங்கிப் புறஞ்சூழ்ந்து
    போர்குறித்து நேர்நின்றே
அங்கட் கடைநின்
   றழைத்தா னொலிகேளா.

Like the small-eyed fox coming to the dreaded den
Of the fierce-eyed tiger and challenging it,
He, seething in wrath, surrounded the house
In armed strength, and straight challenged him;
Yenati Nathar heard the call assailing his threshold.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:43:21 AM »
Verse  9:

தோள்கொண்ட வல்லாண்மைச்
   சுற்றத் தொடுந்துணையாம்
கோள்கொண்ட போர்மள்ளர்
   கூட்டத் தொடும்சென்று
வாள்கொண்ட தாயம்
   வலியாரே கொள்வதென
மூள்கின்ற செற்றத்தால்
   முன்கடையில் நின்றழைத்தான்.

With manly kin strong-shouldered and mercenaries
He marched to the fore-steps of the house
Of Yenati Nathar and shouted thus:
"The right to train men in fencing
Is his who is the victor in the battle."
Thus in exceeding wrath he challenged him.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:41:08 AM »
Verse 8:

கதிரோன் எழமழுங்கிக்
   கால்சாயுங் காலை
மதிபோல் அழிந்துபொறா
மற்றவனும் சுற்றப்
    பதியோ ருடன்கூடப்
பண்ணியமர் மேற்சென்
    றெதிர்போர் விளைப்பதற்கே.

Like the paling of the moon of ineffectual light
When at dawn the sun rises, he waned
While his envy waxed great; Atichuran
Enlisted his kin and other townsmen
To give battle to Yenati Nathar,
And was firm in his resolution.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:38:42 AM »
Verse  7:

தானாள் விருத்திகெடத்
   தங்கள்குலத் தாயத்தின்
ஆனாத செய்தொழிலாம்
   ஆசிரியத் தன்மைவளம்
மேனாளுந் தான்குறைந்து
    மற்றவர்க்கே மேம்படலால்
ஏனாதி நாதர்திறத்
   தேலா இகல்புரிந்தான்.

His occupation gradually waned and his income
As a master of fencing which he pursued
As of right due to his family, decreased.
As Yenati Nathar's fortune increased
He deemed him his foe, though but improperly.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:36:57 AM »
Verse  6:

மற்றவனும் கொற்ற
   வடிவாட் படைத்தொழில்கள்
கற்றவர்கள் தன்னில்
   கடந்துள்ளார் இல்லையெனும்
பெற்றிமையால் மாநிலத்து
   மிக்க பெருமிதம்வந்
துற்றுலகில் தன்னையே
   சால மதித்துள்ளான்.

Among the triumphant fencing masters
He thought, none could him excel;
In sheer hauteur he thrived on this vast earth;
He was indeed full of himself.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:34:23 AM »
Verse  5:

நள்ளார் களும்போற்றும்
   நன்மைத் துறையின்கண்
எள்ளாத செய்கை
   இயல்பின் ஒழுகுநாள்
தள்ளாத தங்கள்
   தொழிலுரிமைத் தாயத்தின்
உள்ளான் அதிசூரன்
   என்பான் உளனானான்.

He pursued his vocation, praised even by his foes;
He flourished flawless poised in virtue
He had an agnate Atichuran called
Who too was entitled to pursue this art.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:32:25 AM »
Verse  4:

வாளின் படைபயிற்றி
   வந்த வளமெல்லாம்
நாளும் பெருவிருப்பால்
    நண்ணும் கடப்பாட்டில்
தாளும் தடமுடியும்
    காணாதார் தம்மையுந்தொண்
டாளும் பெருமான்
   அடித்தொண்டர்க் காக்குவார்.

All the wealth he derived from his art
He daily expended in love on the devotees
Of the Lord who rules even them that canst not
Comprehend His crown or feet;
He deemed this his fitting service.

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:29:30 AM »
Verse  3:

தொன்மைத் திருநீற்றுத்
   தொண்டின் வழிபாட்டின்
நன்மைக்கண் நின்ற
   நலமென்றும் குன்றாதார்
மன்னர்க்கு வென்றி
   வடிவாள் படைபயிற்றும்
தன்மைத் தொழில்
   விஞ்சையில்தலைமை சார்ந்துள்ளார்.

He was devoted to the hoary and hallowed holy ash;
He always wore it and adored it;
In its endless well-being he was established;
He trained the king's men in triumphant fencing
In which he was the sole accredited master.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:27:36 AM »
Verse  2:

வேழக் கரும்பினொடு
   மென்கரும்பு தண்வயலில்
தாழக் கதிர்ச்சாலி
   தானோங்குந் தன்மையவாய்
வாழக் குடிதழைத்து
   மன்னியஅப் பொற்பதியில்
ஈழக் குலச்சான்றார்
    ஏனாதி நாதனார்.

In its cool fields grow paddy crops lofty
Which are taller than sugar-canes and sweet-canes;
The people flourish thither well-endowed;
It was from this beauteous city Yenati Nayanar
Hailed from the clan of Yeezha-ch -chandrar.   

Arunachala Siva.

General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: February 14, 2016, 08:25:19 AM »
Enaathi Nayanar Puranam:

Verse 1:

புண்டரிகம் பொன்வரைமேல்
   ஏற்றிப் புவியளிக்கும்
தண்தரள வெண்கவிகைத்
   தார்வளவர் சோணாட்டில்
வண்டறைபூஞ் சோலைவயல்
   மருதத் தண்பணைசூழ்ந்
தெண்திசையும் ஏறியசீர்
   எயின்மூதூர் எயினனூர்.

The tiger-signum of the Chozhas was inscribed
On Himavant up to which their country extended;
Their parasol white was decked with cool pearls;
In the Chozha land of garlanded kings
Is ancient Yeyinanoor whose glory is borne by
All the eight directions; it is girt with
Cool fields and flowery gardens where bees hum.   

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Our Bhagavan-Stories
« on: February 14, 2016, 06:49:32 AM »

Sri Narayana Iyer, who was a Sub Registrar for long years, with good career record, was suddenly
transferred to Tiruchy, by his senior officer, who had some for no reason, developed some
grudge against him.  Devotees were wondering why Narayana Iyer should have this misfortune for
no fault of his.  Devaraja Mudaliar asked Bhagavan:  "Bhagavan!  Why should such things
happen even to your ardent devotee?  How can you keep quiet?"
Bhagavan, as usual, kept silent.

Devaraja Mudaliar decided to sing the famous Vel Vaguppu, of Arunagiri Nathar next morning in
the Hall.  This song sings about the glories of Vel, the Javelin of Skanda, in removing the obstacles
of the devotees.  He wanted to sing to invoke the grace of Bhagavan for Narayana Iyer. 

When Devaraja Mudaliar was singing in the Hall, the famous lines from Vel Vaguppu:

"When a devotee prays to you with intense love,
And if anyone wants to harm such a devotee,
You shall vanquish him along with his lineage.
You are ever my support..."     

As he was singing this line, Narayana Iyer suddenly appeared in the Hall to leave for Tiruchy.
He prostrated to Bhagavan and left with heavy heart.  But Devaraja Mudaliar found this as
good omen.

After a few days, Narayana Iyer returned to the Hall, with happy news that his transfer had been
cancelled after he reached Tiruchy! He quickly visited the temples in and around Tiruchy and
returned to Tiruvannamalai, for rejoining his job.


You have taken hold of this slave, with your love,
This dog, lowlier than lowly dog, at Your own will,
This birth, which is Maya is ever in your control.
Who am I to investigate?  What is my right?
You give me another birth or place me
At Your anklet-wearing feet, O Lord with eye on the forehead!

  -  Kuzhaitha Pathu, Decad on Melting, Verse 8, Tiruvachakam.

(Source:  My reminiscences.  Devaraja Mudaliar.)

Arunachala Siva.

But despite the sudden arisal of this insight like a flash of lightning it has not yet achieved its own
fullness and needs time in which to mature. Unless it is effortless and natural and continuous, it is
not the final and most revelatory degree.The moment there is the slightest strain towards being or
knowing, the moment there is a descent from the true insight, a degradation of the true existence.
Such a state of effortlessness can of course arise only for a long novitiate. The enduring transcendental
awareness can come only through unremitting mental toil throughout the day to keep the Real ever in focus.
It is the long ripened, slowly grown fruit of vigilant watching over the attention as an unbroken process
of harmonizing the Unmanifest Mind with its ever appearing ideas.

Thus the proficient is not only able to get a true glimpse of Reality, but, because he gets it with intelligent
understanding, he is also able to stretch out these glimpses more and more into his ordinary worldly
life. Finally they are stretched at full length into all the 24 hours of the day and night.  Thus they are stabilized
and made permanent and henceforth he dwells in unfettered unity. With this attaining of the ultra mystical
training of the philosophic path completes itself.The thinking activity which still continues is not quite the
same as it was formerly.


Arunachala Siva.       

General Discussion / Re: Communication and Attention - Vidya Sridhar:
« on: February 13, 2016, 11:58:12 AM »
What the next generation needs is this attention from their parents and family . Children test their
parents'  limits by committing mistakes and the parents should be there to correct them and put them
on the right track.  One cannot expect the TV, computer or iPhone to do this for them.  Internally children
long for this attention. So also, elders want someone to listen to their emotions and feelings.  Giving
attention to their needs and wants is care.  In today's world, what is more needed than ever before is
face to face communication and attention.  If children don't want to communicate directly with the
others, when grown up they have difficulties or instability in their family, jobs, and in a society due to their
lack of this capacity.

There is a saying in Tamizh, 'Ainthil vilaiyaadhadhu aimbathil vilayaadhu', namely, 'what a child does not
learn when he or she is five years old, cannot be taught at fifty years of age.' Modern science has found
that the brain is nothing but a bunch of computer programmes learnt during childhood. The emotional reactions that a child experiences get registered in the brain as a programme, and a similar situation
in adulthood makes the person react the same way as when a child.


Arunachala Siva. 

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