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6856



How can a Brahma Jnani without thoughts, write a book or engage
in activities?

When I said Jnani is like Nature, doing certain thing without the
implements/gadgets i..e the thinking process of a mind, people
said when so many things could happen naturally like a water
spring in the Hill or a cavity on earth, due earthquake, thinking
can also happen naturally.  If that be so, then Bhagavan Ramana
should have said about "natural thinking without the instrument
of mind", somewhere in the Conversations / Tallks compiled by
devotees.  But no such reply has been found anywhere.

I think, Ribhu Gita, comes here with the answer.  The Chapter
26 Verse 25 (Tr. in English free verse by Dr.H. Ramamoorthy
and Nome) runs like this:

That which by knowing firmly as oneself
One has no need to anything else in the least,
By knowing which with full conviction as oneself
All is known for ever.
And by knowing which as oneself in complete certitude
All actions are accomplished in their entirety --
Ever abide in Bliss, without a trace of a concept (sankalpa)
In That itself as That itself.

Incidentally Sri Lingeshwara Rao's Sanskrit-English version,
does not have this!  Everything is Ramana maya.

Arunachala Siva.

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Our social and political orders follow the same impetus.  For our urban development, we were willing
to eliminate not only individual species that are a nuisance to us, but entire ecosystems that may get in
our way. We lay waste to the resources of the planet, both living and non living, as if all planetary rights
belonged to our species alone.  However carelessly we act, we seem to regard ourselves as the only real
feeling entity in the world.  Nature just provides the raw material for our human projects - rocks that
yield minerals, trees that are a source of wood, animals for food and so on.  Other creatures seldom
count, being fit for whatever purpose we deem convenient.

This predominant thrust of western civilization, and modern civilization based upon it, can be defined
according to the image of 'man and nature'.  The result of this civilization is the growing devastation
of our planet.  We are proud of our material progress and forget that it has occurred only at the expense
of numerous other creatures, great and small.  We have created a culture of exploitation in which not
only plants and animals but also human beings are quickly consumed and discarded.

On the other hand, in Eastern and native traditions, the human being is often presented as an insignificant
part of the greater universe that could probably do well enough without us.  The human is merely another
creature, one among many in the boundless universe, like the small figure of a man placed in a vast panorama
of a Chinese landscape painting.  Nature is the reality and we humans are at best a small part of
nature, at worst something unnatural and out of place in a universe that transcends our creaturely arrogance.
This is the image of 'nature transcending man'.  While this view is closer to the truth, there is an
important evolutionary potential for our species that we should not overlook while recognizing it.

A third view exists that can integrate humanity and nature in a way that affords greater meaning to both.
There is an underlying unity of the human being and the universe, not simply relative to material factors,
but in terms of consciousness itself.  The human being at a soul level reflects the entire universe, while
the universe itself is the Supreme Person or conscious being. It is not an issue of man ruling over nature
or nature ruling over man.  The same Self and sense of personhood underlies both the human beings
and the greater universe.  We are the world, not in our current limited state of mind but in our true
nature and higher potential for enlightenment.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.
               
   

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Man and the Universe or Man as the Universe:

Western civilization has generally looked upon the human being as existing apart from nature,
with nature existing for our own benefit.  Western science regards human beings as the only
real intelligent life form on the  planet.  Its model of intelligent life on the other worlds consists
of technologically developed humanoids like us.  It sees  little wrong with disrupting or damaging
nature as long as some progress for our species may come of it.

Dominant western religions have generally portrayed the human being as God's chosen creature,
the pinnacle of nature, given dominion over all the Earth.  They view the soul as belonging only to
human beings and not to animals or plants, which do not possess any capacity for salvation or
eternal life.  While the notable exceptions can be found in both science and religion  - and while
true science and religion may stand apart from them -- such anthropocentric beliefs have created
the main thrust of cultural civilization. 

contd.,

Arunachala Siva. 

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(5.4):


உலவாக் காலந் தவமெய்தி
    உறுப்பும் வெறுத்திங் குனைக்காண்பான்
பலமா முனிவர் நனிவாடப்
    பாவி யேனைப் பணிகொண்டாய்
மலமாக் குரம்பை இதுமாய்க்க
    மாட்டேன் மணியே உனைக்காண்பான்
அலவா நிற்கும் அன்பிலேன்
    என்கொண் டெழுகேன் எம்மானே.



Having wrought tapas for endless days mortifying Their limbs,
many great saints sorely languish;
Ignoring them You have chosen me for Your service.
I know not how to do away with this mighty Mala-ridden body.
O Ruby !
I lack that love Which pines and pines for Your darshan.
O Lord-God !
how can rise at all?

Arunachala Siva.

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(5.3):


போரே றேநின் பொன்னகர்வாய்
    நீபோந் தருளி யிருள்நீக்கி
வாரே றிளமென் முலையாளோ
    டுடன்வந் தருள அருள்பெற்ற
சீரே றடியார் நின்பாதஞ்
    சேரக் கண்டுங் கண்கெட்ட
ஊரே றாய்இங் குழல்வேனோ
    கொடியேன் உயிர்தான் உலவாதே.


O martial Bull !
You came out of the gate Of Your golden city and removed the darkness.
She whose young and delicate breasts are covered with a breast-band,
came with You.
Your devotees of ever-crescent glory gained Your feet.
Even after witnessing this,
Should I,
here roam about like the rural Blind bull?
Will not this cruel one`s life perish?


Arunachala Siva.

6861
General topics / Re: Abhirami Andati - verses and meanings:
« on: June 15, 2016, 11:39:07 AM »
Verse  53:


53: சின்னஞ் சிறிய மருங்கினில் சாத்திய செய்ய பட்டும்
பென்னம் பெரிய முலையும், முத்தாரமும், பிச்சி மொய்த்த
கன்னங்கரிய குழலும், கண் மூன்றும், கருத்தில் வைத்துத்
தன்னந்தனி இருப்பார்க்கு, இது போலும் தவம் இல்லையே.

ஏ, அபிராமி! மென்மையான இடையில், செம்மையான பட்டணிந்தவளே! அழகிய பெரிய முலைகளில் முத்தாரம் அணிந்தவளே! வண்டுகள் மொய்க்கும் பிச்சிப்பூவைக் கன்னங்கரிய குழலில் சூடியவளே! ஆகிய மூன்று திருக்கண்களை உடையவளே! உன்னுடைய இந்த அழகையெல்லாம் கருத்திலே கொண்டு தியானித்திருக்கும் அடியார்களுக்கு இதைவிடச் சிறந்த தவம் ஏதுமில்லை.

O Abhirami!  In Your slender waist You are wearing red silk sari!  You are wearing pearl garland over
the big beautiful breasts!  You are wearing the pichi flower,(a type of jasmine) where the honey bees are swarming, on Your dark long hairs!  You are having three beautiful eyes!  The devotees who pray to You, contemplating on the beauty have the best tapas in the world!       

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.

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56:  I am with joy.  I am of the nature of the joyous. I am neither a boy nor a youth nor an old man.
I am beyond the beyond.


57:  I am not of the myriad forms.  I am Brahman alone.  The experience of my Self thus expressed
is the Supreme Essence of all the Upanishads.

58:  The rare one who hears this becomes Brahman oneself.

59:  He is neither gross nor atomic, nor is He of the nature of light, air, space, water or earth.
Enveloped by sheaths within all beings, He shines as the indweller, occupying the transcendental
space of the Heart.  Those with limited intellects, who are deluded by Maya into imagining themselves
to be phrases of wisdom and Sutras cannot realize Sankara even by hundreds of such scriptures.

(Chapter 4 concluded.)

contd.,


Arunachala Siva.
         

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328:  Thinking about the totality and the distinct units (individuals) are vain for the seekers of
Deliverance;  Only the inquiry as to source of him (the ego) who is interested in the toality and
the units will lead to Deliverance.

329: Vainly questions are posed by the deluded ones.  'By whom, and how, was the world created
in the beginning? ''What is Maya?"  "What is Ignorance?" "How did the individual soull come into being?"
due to forgetting the main thing needing to be inquired into.

330:  There is no creation apart from seeing;  seeing and creation are one and the same;  and because
that seeing is due to the Ignorance, to cease seeing is the truth of dissolution of the world.

331:  It is the Might of the Supreme Being, called Maya , which takes the form of sense perception
and thereby creates this varied world, and the deluded ones are persuaded that it is real.

332:  Inquiring into unrealities, taking them as real, leads to forgetting of the Real (Self).  And
there is no death other than this forgetting, because thereby the Self is almost lost to the seeker.

333:  If the aspirant knows the Self in this very life, then and only then, for him the Real is real.
If in this life he fails to know the Self, for him the Real (Self) remains concealed by the unreal.

334:  Therefore, the aspirant, being firmly convinced that space and time are unreal, should give
up the whole world and seek to know the Substratum, the Self, through the Quest of his own
True Nature.

contd.,

Arunachala Siva.                         

6864
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: June 15, 2016, 09:23:45 AM »
Verse  187:


ஆதி யார்தம் அரத்துறை நோக் கியே
காத லால்அணை வார்கடி தேகிடத்
தாதை யாரும் பரிவுறச் சம்பந்தர்
பாத தாமரை நொந்தன பைப்பய.

As he, in love, hastened towards
The Primordial One's Tiruvaratthurai
The lotus-feet of Sambandhar began
To pain gradually; his father too was pained.

Arunachala Siva.

6865
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: June 15, 2016, 09:21:20 AM »
Verse  186:


முந்தை நாள்கள் ஒரோவொரு கால்முது
தந்தை யார்பியல் மேலிருப் பார்தவிர்ந்
தந்த ணாளர் அவரரு கேசெலச்
சிந்தை செய்விருப் போடுமுன் சென்றனர்.



The divine child who at times, in the past,
Used to travel seated on the shoulders
Of his father, now avoided it;
In great love he walked ahead, closely
Followed by the Brahmins and his father.


Arunachala Siva.

6866
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: June 15, 2016, 09:18:25 AM »
Verse  185:



கருவ ரைப்பிற் புகாதவர் கைதொழும்
ஒருவ ரைத்தொழு துள்ள முவந்துபோய்ப்
பெருவ ரத்தினிற் பெற்றவர் தம்முடன்
திருவ ரத்துறை சேர்தும்என் றேகுவார்.



Having adored the Lord ever adored by devotees
Who have transcended transmigration,
He gladly took leave of Him,
And with him whose great tapas caused his birth,
He hied towards Tiruvaratthurai saying thus:
"Tiruvaratthurai serthum."

Arunachala Siva.

6867
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: June 15, 2016, 09:15:26 AM »
Verse  184:


ஆங்கு நாதரைப் பணிந்துபெண்
    ணாகடம் அணைந்தரு மறையோசை
ஓங்கு தூங்கானை மாடத்துள்
    அமர்கின்ற வொருதனிப் பரஞ்சோதிப்
பாங்க ணைந்துமுன் வலங்கொண்டு
    பணிவுற்றுப் பரவுசொல் தமிழ்மாலை
தீங்கு நீங்குவீர் தொழுமின்கள்
    எனும்இசைப் பதிகமும் தெரிவித்தார்.



He adored the Lord and took leave of Him;
He came to Pennaakatam and went round
The sacred shrine of Tirutthoongkaanai Maadam
Where for ever resound the soaring Vedas
And where the Lord, the Unique Ethereal Flame
Willingly abides; he prostrated before Him
And sang the celebrated musical garland
Of Tamizh hymns which commanded men thus:
"From evil be freed; adore Him."

Arunachala Siva.

6868
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: June 15, 2016, 09:12:38 AM »
Verse  183:


தாழ்ந்தெ ழுந்துமுன் முரசதிர்ந்
    தெழும்எனுந் தண்டமிழ்த் தொடைசாத்தி
வாழ்ந்து போந்தங்கண் வளம்பதி
    அதனிடை வைகுவார் மணிவெற்புச்
சூழ்ந்த தண்புனல் சுலவுமுத்
    தாற்றொடு தொடுத்தசொல் தொடைமாலை
வீழ்ந்த காதலாற் பலமுறை
    விளம்பியே மேவினார் சிலநாள்கள்.


He rose up and sang before the divine presence
The refreshingly cool decad of Tamizh, beginning
With the words: "Murasu atirntu ezhum"
He came out of the shrine; in that town
Of abundance, he sojourned; during these days
He composed divine garlands of hymns in which
The Mutthaaru of cool and clear water
That circled the shrine was also celebrated.

Arunachala Siva.

6869
General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: June 15, 2016, 09:10:25 AM »
Verse  182:


வான நாயகர் திருமுது
    குன்றினை வழிபட வலங்கொள்வார்
தூந றுந்தமிழ்ச் சொல்லிருக்
    குக்குறட் டுணைமலர் மொழிந்தேத்தி
ஞான போனகர் நம்பர்தங்
    கோயிலை நண்ணியங் குள்புக்குத்
தேன லம்புதண் கொன்றையார்
    சேவடி திளைத்தஅன் பொடுதாழ்ந்தார்.



To worship the Lord of Tirumuthukunru,
The Lord of Devas, as he made the sacred round,
He hymned in pure and holy words of Tamizh
A decade of Tiruvirukku-k-Kural,
Entered the shrine and in soaring love prostrated
At the feet of the Lord, the Wearer
Of cool and honey-laden Konrai garlands.   

Arunachala Siva.

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General topics / Re: Tevaram - Some select verses.
« on: June 15, 2016, 09:07:31 AM »
Verse  181:

மொய்கொள் மாமணி கொழித்துமுத்
    தாறுசூழ் முதுகுன்றை அடைவோம்என்று
எய்து சொன்மலர் மாலைவண்
    பதிகத்தை இசையொடும் புனைந்தேத்திச்
செய்த வத்திரு முனிவருந்
    தேவருந் திசையெலாம் நெருங்கப்புக்
கையர் சேவடி பணியுமப்
    பொருப்பினில் ஆதர வுடன்சென்றார்.



He sang as he neared the shrine thus:
"We will reach Muthukunru circled by Mutthaaru
That flows rolling down heaps of great gems."
He fittingly composed a musical decade
In adoration of the Lord; in ardent love
He moved into that 'Hoary Mountain' where
From all directions great saints of tapas
And Devas throng to adore the Lord's roseate feet.

Arunachala Siva.

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