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General topics / Re: satsangh
« on: May 22, 2008, 06:32:47 PM »
Satsangh means being in the company of like-minded persons,
with identical spiritual quest.  Bhagavan says, that it is like
having a Southern breeze, on a hot summer day and there is no
need for hand fan.  But on a higher plane, it means being in the
permanent company of Sat (Self).  Sat-Sangh - the company of
Self.  If other like minded persons are not available, do not go
to cheats and half-baked ones.  Better to stay alone and enjoy the
company of Self, Which has got no time limit and fixed hours, to
be with you.   

General topics / Re: Living Realised Person
« on: May 22, 2008, 05:59:41 PM »
Dear Sunilbabu, I do not know about Mathru Sharada and her
guru Sri Lakshmanaswami.  The last one I know, was Sri
Chandrasekara Saraswathi of Kanchi, who shed his mortal
coil at the ripe age of 101, about 15 years back.  But, why do
you insist on a living guru in flesh and blood?  Is not Ramana (Self)
within you, a living guru, who is pulling you from inside?  Why need a push also from outside?  Do not search and roam around.  Stay put,
read Ramana and meditate on Him.  He will take care.

General topics / Re: Bhagavan and Others of that State.
« on: May 22, 2008, 05:37:35 PM »
Dear Paul and Naren, why all this fight about addressing Ramana,
as Bhagavan.  He was called so, by Kavyakanta Muni, who recited
Lalita Sahasranama, and brought rain drops over his head, on a
hot summer day in Tiruvannmalai.   If you can do such a thing, you can call Ramana by any name.  I am 62 and I do not know any other
realized soul in the body.  Perhaps the closest is Kanchi Sankaracharya,
Sri Chandrasekhara Saraswathi, who shed in his body about a decade
and half back, at a ripe of age of 101!  No need to go to Garhwal or Timbuctoo, if such a realized soul wills, he will appear before you.
Do not run around. Stay put and read Ramana.   

General topics / Re: Bodily functions of enlightened persons
« on: May 22, 2008, 05:07:11 PM »
Self-realized persons, definitely eat, drink and defacate.  Only they
do them, as if in  a dream.  They also sleep and dream.  In one of
Bhagavan's dreams, Major Chadwick (Sadhu Arunachala) had
come.  In old Tamil books, it is said that yogis/siddhas drink water and
eat dry leaves/dropped fruits from trees. 

General topics / Re: Books subscription etc
« on: May 22, 2008, 05:01:47 PM »
Dear Hemaharish, if you know Tamil, you are twice blessed.
Buy Ramana Nool Thirattu (Complete Works of Bhagavan) and
start with Naan Yaar (Who am I?)

General topics / Re: 14 April 1950
« on: May 22, 2008, 04:59:01 PM »
I was born in March 1946, and whenever I think that Bhagavan,
has shed the body on 14th April 1950 at 8.47 PM, and why I was not
born in and about 1916, so that, if my karma willing, I might have
spent 15 to 20 years of my prime life, with Bhagavan and famous
personalities like Ramanatha Brahmachari, Echammal and Keerai

General topics / Re: Nisargadatta Maharaj & Sri Ramana
« on: May 22, 2008, 04:50:49 PM »
Perhaps, Raju Balsekhar (Refer: Advaita, Buddha and the Unbroken
Whole, Zen Publications, Mumbai) has read in detail about both
Ramana and Nisargadutta Maharaj.  He kept a picture of Bhagavan,
in his study above his desk.  He says that both are realized souls and
guides for humanity.  What I feel is that Bhagavan realized the Self,
and then came to Arunachala to practise "tapas" for the sake of
devotees and heard and read, and wrote books, again for the sake of devotees.  In the case of Nisarga Dutta Maharaj, it was the usual order
reading, tapas and realization.     

General topics / Re: Brutal lies
« on: May 22, 2008, 12:28:39 PM »
'Mental mechanism', ' desiring', 'feeling' 'acting' are all the
products of mind.  But, 'breathing' and 'thinking' are NOT
the products of the mind, but organic branches of the mind.
I believe Upadesa Undhiyar (Sansk. Upadesa Saram) says
this. But one offshoot subject:-  when desire is fulfilled,
the mind returns to Atma-suka and when hated objects suffer,
again the mind returns to Atma-Suka

General Discussion / Re: Method to Self Inquiry
« on: May 22, 2008, 12:06:56 PM »
Dear Mohan Krishanan, there is no conlict between Ramana-dhyanam
or Self-Enquiry and household chores, even though most of us are
not still able to fully reconcile.  Scriptures speak of nishkamaya karma,
or working without desire for fruits.  It is again difficult for most of
us but practice will help.  There is a story about Bhagavan.  When He
was strolling around the Hill,  He picked a small branch of a tree, cut
it to suitable size, and rubbed and polished it with leaves and made a
nice stick.  On His way, a shepherd came searching for his missed stick, andBhagavan readily gave the stick to him.

Arunachala / Re: THE 'I' CONCIOUSNESS
« on: May 22, 2008, 11:48:28 AM »
The "I consciousness, is the state of living with the mind, and
with that the intellect, mind-stuff (chit) and ego.  All of us
are living with our minds and Bhagavan says that we have to
bring it to single monotone of praying to some God.  This is
called mano-layam.  Then one can try the destruction of the
mind, mano-nasa.  When this occurs, we become One with the
Brahman, where there is no two but only one. In my personal
case, I tried it on a few occasions, and with "some bliss", I developed
immense fear and I chanted Arunachala-Siva, a number of times
to get back to my normal stupid self!  This is the experience of
many others who had reported this to Bhagavan.  Perhaps, we
are not yet ready.   

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: "I-I"
« on: May 22, 2008, 11:38:54 AM »
Could someone explain to me why Sri Ramana used "I-I" isntead of just "I"?

Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi used the word I-I to distinguish
between Brahman from Jeevatman.  In Tamil, He used "thaan"
and "naan", the first denoting Brahman and the second Jeevatman,
Ego, mind and intellect.  Both "thaan" and "naan" appear in
Who am I? (Tamil version).  It is Brahman Vs. mind, intellect,
mind-stuff and ego

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