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Dear Paul, practising self-enquiry, through Who am I? will confer
dispassion (vairagya) and also merging in the Self.

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: LAW OF LIFE
« on: July 29, 2008, 11:58:21 AM »
My dear Sankar, Your understanding is correct.  Bhagavan says
in Who am I? : "if one knows that whatever he gives to others,
he is giving to himslef, no one will stop from giving."  Contemplate
on these words carefully.  If one gives love to others, he is giving
love to himself.  If one gives hatred to others, he is giving hatred
to himself.  If one gives pleasure to others, he is giving pleasure to
himself.  If one gives pain to others, he is giving pain to himself.
If one gives good to others, he is giving good to himself.  If one
gives bad to others, he is giving bad to himself."  If one knows
this, he will give to others only what is suitable for him to get back.

This was told by Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi, to Sivaprakasam Pillai,
at the age of 21!  This is the only teaching of Bhagavan, from where,
he never went back in his 54 years of life in Tiruvannamalai.

Arunachala Siva. 

Verses 18 to 27.  These 10 verses of Ulladu Narpadu - Anubandam,
constitute a chapter called, Upaasanaa Prakaranam, meaning the
ideas for meditation.

Verse 18 and 19, are translations from Sanskrit composition called
Ashtanga  Hrudayam.   These speak about the Heart on the right side,
Bhagavan's one of the central teachings.  David Godman says that
the Heart is everywhere and right side of the chest need not be a
focal point.  That is a different issue about which a raging controversy
is going on his blog.  The English translation of Aruthur Osborne is:-

"Between the two paps, below the chest, above the stomach, there
are six organs of various colours.  Of these, one, looking like a lily bud,
is the Heart at two digits' distance to the right of the centre."

"Its mouth is closed. Within the cavity is seated a heavy darkness,
filled with all desires, all the great nerves are centred there; the
home it is of breath, mind and light of knowledge."

Verse 20, is a translation of two verses,  from Prabhulinga Leela, a Kannada work, by Allamma Prabhu.  Allamma Prabhu is one of four saints of Veera Saiva movement, about whom I have written in Speaking of Siva.
The verses begin, 'Guhe yelle kelatmananda....'   and  'adhu nimitatala
akila jeevare hrudaya vallabhane.....'  It appears under Goraknatha
Samavadha, chapter 19, verses 45 & 46).  One Thuraimangalam
Sivaprakasa Swamigal, has translated Prabhulinga Leela in Tamil

Arunachala Siva.

Dear non duel,  Very interesting observation.  Bhagavan is always
but very subtle.  This subtlety gives rise to many many interpretations.
Similarly, He has also told different things to suit the differing viewpoints
of the questioner/devotee.  This again causes many many interpretations.

David Godman has written many things that would dislodge the
conventional views on Bhagavan.  For example, David has said
that 'I-I' is a state just before merging in the Self.  But Who am I?
clearly says, 'I-I' is the Self.  The first thought that rises in the
morning, as you wake up from sleep, which lasts for an infinitesimal
time of less than one second, is again "I" which is just arising from
the Self.  Then only the "I" our first personal pronoun arises.  I am
for one, who believes that what  Bhagavan has said in Who am I?
is correct.  Again, it is left to the individual view point / experience.

David, has given rise to many such controversies!  He has said that
the Heart-Centre that is said by Bhagavan to be on the right side
of the chest, is not correct and that the Self is there everywhere
inside the body.  People have to take it or leave it, as their own
view point/experience demands.         

Bhagavan has said to mentally repeat, either Siva-Siva or Rama-Rama
or I am Brahman or simply 'I-I' or simply tell one's own name like
Subramanian - Subramanian or non-duel - non duel.  Each one is
correct, according to the questioner's viewpoint, and every one
of these will lead to Self-realization.

Arunachala Siva. 

Dear Sankar, Practise surrender and that will do.  I am repeating,
surrender is not easy as we think.  Regarding books, do not worry
about any book.  If you could get hold of English version of Who am
I?, read it everyday, till you understand every word of it.  This is
a small book, running to 8 pages and it will take half an hour.  If
you practise every word of it, that is more than adquate.

Arunachala Siva.

Sivananda Lahari of Sankara is a composition of 100 verses on Siva.
This poem is full of bhakti-bhava.  While Soundaya Lahari abounds
in mantra-sastra, and explains the purport of Sri Vidya through
Pancha-dasakshari - 15 letters - of Sri Lalita Tripura Sundari, and
Viveka Choodamani, explains the Jnana-marga. 

Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi chose 10 slokas from Sivananda Lahari
and prescribed them for daily chanting for devotees.

The 10 slokas prescribed by Bhagavan are:-

1. Angolam ... 2. Bhaktir Mahesapada....   3. Jananamrudhi Udanam...
4. Katova.... 5. Vakshasthatana sangaya....   6.  Naradhvam Devdhvam....  7. Guhaayaam Keheva... 8. Kabire kasrare..... 9. Vatuturvaa kehee vaa...
10. Aadhya avidya.....

1. Angolam... Sloka 61.  Bhakti is thoughtless devotion and merger
into Siva, as the Azhingil tree attracts its seeds, magnet, the needle,
wife, her husband and tree, the creeper.

2. Bhaktir Mahesapada... Sloka 76. Bhakti which goes towards  Siva's holy feet, will confer a full and wholesome life to the devotee, as clouds give
rains aplenty to the river and makes it swell with water.

3.  Jananamrudhi udanam... Sloka 83.  Lesser who themselves take
birth and die confer little or no bliss.  One who prays to Siva, the
concorporate of Amba, becomes the receipient of limitless bliss.
4. Katova.... Sloka 6  Endeless disputes and arguments over religion
will not remove the great danger of death.  Leave them, avoid throat
sore, pray to Sambhu with a clear heart and get the limitless bliss.

5.  Vakshasthatana sangaya... Sloka 65.  Yama, the God of Death will
not come near the devotee,  as he is afraid of a kick on his chest*
and devas also prostrate him.  The Goddess of Liberation is always
with him.  To one who contemplates on your holy feet, what is
beyond reach?

* Yama got a kick from Siva, when he tried to catch Markandeya,
when the latter was worshiping Siva, holding Sivalinga with his hands.

6.  Naradhvam devadhvam.... Sloka 10.  Whether one is born as
man or as an angel or as a creeper in the hill or as a tree in the
forest or as a ferocious animal, or as a mosquito, or as a cow or as
a worm or as a bird, what does it matter to him?  If his heart could
dwell on your lotus feet and enjoy the limitless bliss, how he is born
does not matter at all.

7. Guhaayaam Keheva..... Sloka 12.  It does not matter when
one lives in a cave or in a home or in open space, or in forest, or in
a jungle or on a hilltop or in water or in fire, it makes no difference
or does it give any better benefit.  If one could constantly contemplate on your Holy Feet, he is the Greatest Yogi and he will get the eternal bliss.

8. Kabire kasare.... Sloka 9.  Inside the deep river or whirlpool or
in uninhabited dangerous jungle, or in broad valleys of a mountain,
a man searches for a flower to adorn you.  What is the use?  If one
could submit his lotus heart to your lotus feet, O Umakantha! that is
the best happiness, these people do not know, what a pity!

9. Vaturva kehivaa....  Sloka 11.   Let one be a celibate, or a householder, or a tapasvi or a muni or a simple man, it does not matter. One can
own you only if one could submit his lotus heart to you and you manage his entire burden in his life.

10. Adhya avidhya..... Sloka 91.  Chandrasekhara ! The ignorance
which filled my heart has totally been destroyed.  The Knowledge of
the Heart filled me.   I ever pray to your most beneficial lotus feet which
is the seat of liberation, ever and for ever.

Arunachala Siva.               

General topics / Uddava Gita
« on: July 27, 2008, 02:25:03 PM »
Uddava Gita is the parting instructions of Sri Krishna, to Uddava,
before he left the earth.  It appears as Chapters 6 to 29 of XI
Skanda of Srimad Bhagavatam.  It is here the famous Avadhuta's
story comes.  The twenty four chapters sums up the essence of
various paths like Karma, Bhakti, Yoga and Jnana.  A sample,

" He the Supreme Lord of the high and low, remains as a mass
of transcendent Knowledge and Bliss, known as the Absolute,
and without attributes."  (Sloka 18 of Chapter IV)

"  There, O Uddava! dwelling on your own Self,  till the attainment
of realization, be endowed with knowledge and bliss and worship
Me with devotion." (Sloka 17 of Chapter IX)

" That which, when one object is transformed into another, abides
at its beginning, middle and end, and remains when those objects
return to their cause, is verily the Real." (Sloka 17 of Chapter XIX)

" It is the body which, directed by something, works and is
modified till death, but the man of realization, with his desire
quenched by experiencing the bliss of the Atman, even though
he is in the body, is not affected by work." (Sloka 30 of Chapter XXIII)

" Ideas of rivalry, jealousy, pity and egoism quickly depart from a
man who thinks of Me abiding in all men." (Sloka 15 of Chapter XXIV)

Arunachala Siva.


The last portion of Ramana Anubhuti, Guru Anugraha Ezhupadu,
70 verses on Guru's Grace, sums up the incomparable benefits
of Guru's Grace in 70 verses.  A sample,

" The Grace of the Lord sustains within itself those worthy
ones who seek salvation through it, their understanding made
stronger by true devotion.  And it was through that Grace that
He angrily destroyed the insidious effect of my actions and
became my true Master."

" It is the glorious inner light which illumines those who
are adept in the excellent practice of meditating daily upon the holy
syllables of "Sivaya Namaha".  It is the Heart of this poor devotee's
heart, the secret truth, a vastness without end and revealed throgh
holy silence.  It is the Grace of our Lord."

" Although it cannot be described even by the Vedas themselves,
it unites the hearts of devotees with the never failing source of
Sivahood.  It is the grace of our Lord who granted me the bliss
of pure peace in the inner sanctum of a heart freed from the
desire and aversion."

" It brings a final end that unsure ego self which belongs to a
false state of consciousness, full of anger and confusion.
Possessing my very soul illuminating it with the inward realization
of my true nature as "I-I", so that the pain of desire is no more,
it is the Grace of our Lord."

Arunachala Siva.

The next portion of Ramana Anubhuti, is Guru Pada Pugzhchi
Ezhupadu - Seventy verses in praise of Guru's Holy Feet.
A sample,

" Extinguishing the anger inherited from previous births,
which flares up like a portent of evil, they unite us with
the bliss of their pure and noble essence.  United with
me through the grace of his deep and abiding love, the
one refuge of this horrible devotee's life and soul, they
are the Holy Feet of our Lord."

" Like the silvery moon, infusing their minds with the
cool light of discrimination, they end the suffering of
true devotees even as they approach."

" Calming the fears if true devotees who flock to
them, clarifying their understanding, annulling the
bitter effects of their sinful deeds and purifying them
through the true realization which by their grace
they unfailingly bestow, they are the Holy feet of our

"  They pardon all the misdeeds of his true devotees,
conferring upon them all the blessings of his compassionate
nature.  Never branding them as evil  driving them away but
taking pity on them and infusing their inner being, they are
the Holy feet of our Lord."

Arunachala Siva.

The next portion of Ramana Anubhuti speaks about the
Guru Pada Ninaivu or Guru Pada Smaranam, the Remembrance
of the Holy Feet.  A sample,

" To the feet of my Guru, who banished my fear, uniting
me to Himself in that victorious state, which is illuminated
by Selfhood's Light."

" To those glorious feet of my Guru, thorugh which He
destroyed my false indentification with a personal "I"
and merging the three persons* into one, made me
know my true identity in Him." 

* means arrogance, karma and maya (delusion).

" "To His Holy feet, where divine silence arose like
the moon, spreading its cool radiance within my Heart,
so that I was no longer tormented by the burning heat
of my mind's confusion."

"To those Holy feet where the clear light of the Self
shines out as "I-I",  incomparably vaster and brighter
than any other light."

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Ramana Anubhuti - (3)
« on: July 27, 2008, 12:38:05 PM »
The second portion of Ramana Anubhuti, speaks about Guru
Anugraha Anandam, the inexpressible joy of Guru's Grace.
A sample,

"Could it be a simple matter for a pauper such as I to describe
the vast splendour of the glorious experience of Lord Siva, when
in the presence of the Lord, the mind is abolished in the state
of total surrender?  Can the words even of a poet give expression
to it?"

"He is the wisest of the sages.  He is the Primal Being who
imparts clear understanding so that the sense of doership is
removed from our actins.  He is the unique Master, who through
His gracious bearing foorded me his blissful compassion so that
I suffered no more."

" Final liberation in Lord Siva is gained through the
perfection of knowledge, when it is suffused by the light
of His hold, did the Lord speak as He brought my own consciousness
to that same state of perfection at the feet of Brahman."

" As soon as I sought asylum in the protecting embrace of the
Self, whose glorious form shines with the noble radiance of the
Supreme, the sorrowful delusion of birth and death receded from
me, and I tasted the intoxicating liquor of the experience of Sivahood."

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Ramana Anubhuti (2)
« on: July 27, 2008, 12:26:05 PM »
A few samples from the portion called, Guru Anugraha Nidhi,
the Guru's Gracious Bounty.

" Foolishly, through my mind's arrogance, I was forgetful of
the Self's eternal reality, and was lost, until the Lord, through
his gracious teaching reunited me with that eternally existing
pure awareness which is my own true nature."

" Know that the vision of the truth we behold when we enter
and subside within the Heart, so that the treacherous ties of
worldly bondage which attend the illusion of the body are
abolished, is indeed the gracious state of final liberation.  For
within the SElf, whose nature is pure seeing, any world which
appears to possess reality is in fact an illusion."

" Through my Master's gracious revelation, sinking deep within
myself, I know that it was pure falsehood to claim that the state of
forgetfulness in which though diversifies, giving rise to the pairs
of opposites, could be inherent in the lofty conditon of pure,
Non-dual consicousness."

" Desirous of knowing Him, we steady our minds, playing Thol-
Nokkam* in our inner awareness as we perform our worship.
Then through the indestructible nature of those holy feet, does
He grant us freedom from the terror caused by our mind's
defilement.  Thol-Nokkam!*"

* Thol-Nokkam in Tamil means 'aiming at the shoulder'.  In
children's game, they end up with placing the hands of the
each opposing pair on the shoulders of the other.  In poetry
it is used as a symbol of the approach of the soul to Siva's
feet.  Manikkavachagar, the composer of Tiruvachakam, has
got 10 songs in the Decad of Thiru-Thol-Nokkam, where
every song ends with "Thol-Nottakm Kaanaamo!" -- "We shall
look at the shoulders of Siva."

Interestingly, Kavyakanta Ganapati Muni adopted the same
technique with Bhagavan, when he came running to see Him
in the Hill, with utter despair and restlessness.  He placed his
two hands on His feet,  his right hand on His right foot and his
left hand on His left foot, that is in cross!  This is is the perfect
Saranagati, Surrender, since the devotee is not supposed to
touch Guru's right foot with his left hand!

Arunachala Siva.

Among the thousands of verses composed by Muruganar, after he
came to Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi, Ramana Anubhuti is a collection
of 755 verses, composed sometime in 1948, two years before
Bhagavan's Maha Nirvana.  The poem consists of 755 verse, with
several chapters.

1. Guru Anugraha Nidhi - Guru's Gracious Bounty - 242 verses
2. Guru Anugraha Anandam - The inexpressible joy of Guru's Grace -
    207 verses.
3. Guru Pada Ninaivu - (Smaranam) - Remembrance of the Holy Feet -
    152 verses.
4. Guru Pada Pugazhchi - Glory of the Lord's Holy Feet - 2 verses.
5. Guru Pada Pugazhchi Ezhupadu - 70 verses in Praise of the
    Guru's Holy Feet - 80 verses.  (Even though Ezhupadu denotes 70,
    this portion contains 80 verses).
6. Guru Anugraha Ezhupadu - 70 verses on Guru's Grace - 70 verses.

The entire composition has been translated by Robert Butler in English.

I shall give some samples in a separate post.

Arunachala Siva.

Taittriaya Upanishad comes under Krishna Yajur Veda. It has
three divisions, Brugu Valli, Siksha Valli and Ananda Valli.
Brugu Valli speaks about what Brugu the Sage, taught to his
son.  Siksha Valli speaks about the truth taught to disciples
by the guru, the importance of hearing, reciting and contemplating
various truths.  Ananda Valli speaks about the bliss of Brahman.

Once Viswanatha Swami, is a devotee who came to Bhagavan in His
early years and remained with Him permanently and he was
incidentally, Bhagavan's cousin's son.  He was well versed in
Sanskrit and Tamil and one day requested Bhagavan about the
sloka Aham vkksasya reriva... which appears in Chapter 10 of
Sikaha Valli.  This is what Trisanku the sage, said after realizing
the Self.  Bhagavan with all His grace, directed Viswantha Swami,
to Kavyakanta Ganapati Muni, who was staying in Pachiamman
Koil.  Kavyakanta explained the purport of this sloka to Viswanatha
Swami and finally told him:  "Go to Bhagavan.  I have only explained
the meaning.  Bhagavan is the embodiment of this sloka!"  Thus
while Kavyakanta Ganapati Muni knew all the scriptures, Bhagavan
was the embodiment of the Truth behind these scriptures.  Kavyakanta
was the knower of sastras, while Bhagavan was the knower of the

The sloka states:  "I am the inspirer of this tree called the world.  My
glory is ass high as the mountain-peak.  The sun gives food and
thereby gives immortality to all.  The sun is above the earth and pure.
I am also high and pure, because I am Brahman. I am Consciousness.
I am precious like jewels.  I am luminous like the Self. I have a sharp
intellect.  I have no fear of death.  I am always the same, the never
changing, Consciousness.

Arunachala Siva.


Many many devotees have either tied to touch Bhagavan's feet or
tried to touch His body, to get grace and blessings.  Bhagavan normally
did not allow anyone to touch His feet and this rare privilege was
given only a few devotees.  He permitted prostrations, and He gave
initiation by look, Sakshu Diksha and many got only mano-diksha
or bhavana diksha, that is inititation by His 'thinking' or 'grace.'

But Marakdamma was a rare case.  She was a cook for many visitors
to Tiruvannamalai.  She prepared food and gave it to them for some
payments for her living.  Lakshmanaswami and other devotees had
this arrangment.  But when a devotee was an advanced soul, she
wanted to embrace them for getting their grace and blessings!
She tried with Lakshmanaswami on a few occasions.  More than
anything, she tried to embrace Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi and
on a few occasions she even succeeded!  She goes to Bhagavan's
hall, prostrates and suddenly feels restless and in order to suppress
her emotions, she goes out to the foothills and walks for a while
Again she comes back, prostrates and becomes restless and so on.
On a few occasions, she embraced Bhagavan.  After seeing this
on a couple of occasions, Bhagavan's attendants became furious and
guarded Bhagavan against her and even drove her out of the hall.
She was not caring a bit.

Arunachala Siva.