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The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: fighting with ego
« on: July 17, 2008, 06:26:00 PM »
Dear srkudai, you are correct.  Everything is relative be it mind,
ego or self (jiva).  Only Brahman is the Absolute Truth, where
there is no relativity, the One without a second.  Brahman has only
one quality, "the brahmityam" that is, attractiing the jiva like a
magnet.  This is again the scholar's perception!   You are talking
about eeg for Bhagavan's brain.  But some devotees had touched
His Heart, on the right side!  And found to their horripliation, there
was regular three-beat, with a break of a few seconds!  Sat-Chit-
Anandam,  Sat-Chit-Anandam, Sat-Chit-Anandam!

Arunachala Siva.

Vishnu Shatpadi, six verses on Vishnu, is again a small work
by Sankara, which again describes the seeker's craving for
the Godhead.

A sample,

Save me from pride, O Vishnu! curb my restless mind
Still my thirst for the waters of this world's mirage
Be gracious Lord! to  this Thy humble creature
And rescue him, from the ocean of the world.

Even when I am not duality's slave, O Lord,
The Truth is that I am Thine and not that Thou art mine
The waves may belong to the ocean,
But the ocean never belongs to the waves!

Arunachala Siva.     

General topics / Kaupina Panchakam by Sankara
« on: July 17, 2008, 05:06:32 PM »
Kaupina Panchakam, Five Verses on Loin-cloth, is a small
poem of Sankara, which aptly describes Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi.
A sample:-

Witnessing the changes of the mind and body
Naught but the Self within him beholding
Heedless of outer, of inner, of middle,
Blest indeed is the wearer of loin-cloth!

Chanting Brahman, the Word of redemption
Meditating only on " I am Brahman"
Living on alms and wandering freely
Blest indeed is the wearer of loin-cloth!

Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: WHAT IS LIFE?
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:56:11 PM »
When the mind is killed, you are the Self.  Satyam-Nyayam-Dharmam,
Satyam-Sivam-Sundaram, Prajna Parimita, Existence-Knowledge-Bliss,
Maha Sunya, ALL these are names.  Who cares?  If one becomes
the Sugar candy, what does it matter to you, if one calls it sweet, another
sour and the third bitter?  If you are the Rose, what does it matter to
you, if one calls it pink, another green and the third black?
Arunachala Siva. 

All the mind's dangerous mischief stopped, albeit temporarily for me
for about 15 days, when the computer stopped working.  Silence
prevailed.  Today the mischief starts, "manam enum mayak kurangu..."
the seemingly unreal monkey of the mind!  Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: WHAT IS TRUTH?
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:47:40 PM »
Dear Sankar, Truth is That, in which one merges, in a deep sleep,
where all the mind's mischief ceases. If you stop all the mind's
mischief, by killing it,  as in dreamless deep sleep, you are the Self, the Truth, the One without a second. There, not only the world, even
your personal god cease to exist.  Arunachala Siva. 

General Discussion / Re: Perth, Ausrtalia devotees?
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:39:09 PM »
Dear aio, the details regarding Sri Ramanasramam, Tiruvannamalai,
have been extensively posted by me and others in response to
similar questions by others.  Please see the points given by
various Forum members under 'Arunachala Ramana - Ashram'.
Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: WHOIS SATGURU?
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:36:41 PM »
Dear Sankar, as I posted elsewhere, the Guru is one in whose
presence, (his books, his words, his name), the seeker gets
total peace and gets all his doubts resolved, without questioning.
There is no qualification like, living or dead, man or
woman, young or old.  Even the Guru can be a bird and not a
human being!  Please see Avadhuta Gita.  Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: WHO IS MASTER?
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:30:59 PM »
Dear Sankar, there is only one Master.  He is not known to us, nor
can he be seen or touched by us.  This Master, the Causeless Cause,
causes many masters in different times, as times demand.  These
masters are 'avataras', who are equally capable to take the seekers
in the path and show the goal.  Remember, the Master can only show the
goal and it is for you to reach it merge with it.   Please read Who am I?
by Bhagavan written in 1902, at the age of 21.  The Master need not
be living in a body and it is left to you to call him, Sadguru, Parama Guru,
Parameshti Guru, or Brahma Guru.  After all, what is there in a name?
Bhagavan also has said that the seeker can know the Guru is he
gets immense peace in his presence or through his books, his words,
his name etc.,   Arunachala Siva.   

General Discussion / Re: WHO IS GOD? WHERE IS GOD?
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:23:36 PM »
Dear sankar, God is within, it is Sat-Chit-Ananda, according to
Sankara.  It is simply I-I for Bhagavan Ramana.  Bhagavan has
said that I-I is more potent than Om.  Arunachala Siva.

« on: July 17, 2008, 04:20:50 PM »
Dear Sankar,  Bhagavan said two things, one is vichara and another
is surrender.  In both, the ego has to be annihilated.  In vichara, you
enquire within, with no thoughts, ego et all and merge in the Self.
In surender, He meant a total surrender and a conditional surrender.
When someone came to Bhagavan saying that he is a great sinner,
Bhagavan said, 'then give all your sins to me and surrender without
any qualms'.  If this can happen, then it is total surrender, where also
the ego is totally destroyed.  In sum the purpose of life is to kill the
mind and the ego either way, vichara or saranagati.  Arunachala Siva.

General Discussion / Re: Is heaven and hell real?
« on: July 17, 2008, 04:15:30 PM »
Dear rajan, sonagiri and others,  the concept of hell and heaven is
there in all religious beliefs.  It is only for those who believe in such
things.  It is the mind, which causes, happiness, sorrow, pleasure,
pain, good and evil.  When the mind and breath leave the body, they
also carry the latencies, vasanas, and it is the vasanas that cause a
reibirth.  If the mind is killed, there are no vasanas, there are no dyads and triads, no birth becuase one then merges in the Self and it is just is.
Talking about Hitler, it is again a fevered imagination, to think as to
what could have happened to him!  Perhaps this mental exercise
will  result in thinking that he must have a suffered in hell, with his
vasanas and a "yadana sarira', after which he must have been born as
an AIDS virus, a shark, a poisonous serpent, a ferocious tiger or as
Saddam Hussein or George Bush!    Arunachala Siva.     

General topics / Re: Living Guru
« on: July 17, 2008, 02:26:49 PM »
Dear non duel,  at the outset, my comp did not work for 15 days
due to some unknown problem, hence there is some break in my
prattiling!  For most of us, the idea of a living guru appeals more,
because we are so much used to names and forms.  Again not one
living guru, one seeks several living gurus!  Bhagavan has said on
many occasions that the devotees need not worry about being in
a body permanently.  Bhagavan lived 70 years in His body as an
'avatara' to drive home the Truth but it is too much to expect Him
to live always in body.  The Guru need not be a living Guru.  His
Presence is always felt by genuine seekers even today.  For people
who seek miracles, He is causing miracles even today.  For example,
after 15 days, He has set right my comp on a fee of $ 6.00.  No parts
changed, no parts added, only a simple correction by a young engineer!
I was only praying to Him:   "You have made me go without even doing
something in your glory?  Why?"  Then I chanted the famous Tiruvachakam verse, " You know what I want.  You will give me all that
you want.  You are unreachable even to Bramha and Vishnu, who always
wanted something or other from you.  You have always given me what
I had wanted.  Even you know what I have to want from you, and that is what you want!"  Arunachala Siva.       

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: fighting with ego
« on: July 17, 2008, 02:14:12 PM »
Dear srkudai,  mind is a beautiful instrument, no doubt.  But this
is useful only during sravanam, mananam et al.  Once one merges
in the Self, where is the question of mind?  The one thought also
gets burnt up like the stick that is used to stir the funeral pyre.
After self-realization, there is no mind, hence no thought, no ego etc.,
The state of realization is not beautiful or ugly, it is JUST IS.
While Buddha called it as Maha Sunya or Maha Prajna, Sankara called
it Sat-Chit-Ananda. Who is there to tell whether it is sunya or ananda?    Arunachala Siva.   

Dear "non duel" / "srkudai",  My comp did not work for 15 days due
to some unknown problem. That gave me time to read David Godman's
book "The Power of the Presence" in 3 volumes.  Bhagavan said to
Annamalai Swami:  Contemplate on the thought "I am Brahman". 
Bhagavan prescribed different ways for different seekers.  To one
'outcaste', He had prescribed:  Chant "Siva-Siva".  This one thought
eventually result in "no-thought" and that is Self-realization. 
Eventually, as non-duel said it is the conviction or bhavana that is
the most important thing.   Arunachala Siva.