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Drik-Drisya Viveka, is a small treatise on Advaita Vedanta in 46 slokas.
The authorship is referred to various sages like Sankara, Madhva Vidyaranya and Brhamananda Bharati.  Since Bhagavan says in His
prose version that it is by Sankara, we accept it.

Bhagavan Ramana has made an introductory verse, which reads as:

Oh thou divine Sankara
Thou art the Subject
That has knowledge
Of subject and object.
Let the subject in me be destroyed
As subject and object
For thus in my mind arises
The light as single Siva.

He also writes in the Introduction (as prose): " ..... Here the same
teaching is contained, which Sri Sankaracharya has explained concisely
without any elaboration, in the following text."
The most elaborate treatise of Sankara on Advaita is Viveka Choodamani.
Atma Bodham and Drik Drisya Viveka are concise versions.

Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi has translated all the three.  Atma Bodham
in Tamil verses and the other two in Tamil prose. 

Arunachala Siva.

The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: "I-I"
« on: June 20, 2008, 11:07:32 AM »
Dear 'Mark', you are correct.  Meditation on Brahman, with the
'bhavana' that I am Brahman, is one thought that will ward off
other thoughts.  This one thought will also get vanquished once
you 'be'  the Self, like 'the stick that stir the burning corpse gets burnt at the end.'  The Arunachala Aksharamanamalai starts:  "Thou dost root out the ego of those who meditate on Thee. Oh! Arunachala!" To meditate
on Arunachala, one should have this one thought, say, "I am Arunachala" or "I am Brahman" and eventually, this thought gets dissolved in the Self
or Arunachala or Brahman.
I am repeating what I posted elsewhere, "Who am I?" is adequate for the entire civilization and all the books and treatises of all faiths including
Hindu faith, right from Brahma Sutram or Prajna Parimata to today's
"Easy way to Salvation"  techniques are only details.  Arunachala Siva.     

Further to my post on Ramana Padamalai, of Muruganar,
almost all the Tamil Saiva Siddhanta saints have sung about
Siva's feet.  Manikka Vachakar's  "Tiruvembavai" (which is
incidentally sung in Tiruvnnamalai) is a glorious praise on
Siva's feet and almost 10 to 12 verses of this poem, mention
about Siva's feet.  The last verse is a beauty.  There is also a
Sanskrit poem called "Kunchitanghristavam", in 313 verses
by one Umapathi Sivcharya, written around 1300 A.D glorifying
the feet of "the raised foot" of Siva Nataraja of Chidambaram.
"The raised foot " is called "kunchitanghri".  The pointing hand
that directs the devotee to "the raised foot"   is called as "Gaja
Hastham" in Sanskrit.  The Gaja Hastham means the trunk of the
elephant, because that  hand looks like the trunk of the elephant.
Just like the elephant would pick even a needle from the floor, by its
trunk, Siva would pick even the lowly mortals, if they pray
to his Gaja Hastham, and place them in his raised foot.   David Smith
in his book,The Dance of Siva, mentions about  "Kunchitagristhavam  profusely.  He is also reported to have translated the poem in English.  Arunachala Siva.

Dear friends,  I thought I could write today, about Atma Bodham
of Sankaracharya.  It is a short treatise on Adviata Vedanta and
it consists of 68 verses.  Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi has made
this into Tamil verses of ' Nerisai-venba' metre.  The background
story is that once a Muslim devotee asked for a Tamil version of
Sankara's work and Bhagavan obliged him with this verse-
translation very fast, by even working out in a night with torch!
This work is widely known and there are several English commentaries
from Ramakrishna Math and others.  The Tamil verses have been
translated in prose by Arthur Osborne.  Arunachala Siva.   

Arunachala / Re: Meditation on Mt. Arunachala
« on: June 18, 2008, 01:26:19 PM »
Dear "davgad", Arunachala is also portrayed as Effulgent Light,
in various puranas, verses like Tiruvachakam and also by Bhagavan
in His "Talks" and writings.  Meditation on the Heart Centre also
makes It shine with Effulgent Light.  Arunachala Puranam and Arunachala Mahatmiyam also tells a story, where Shiva stood as one Formless,
Nameless Light, and Vishnu and Brahma could not reach its feet or
head.  In the Heart Centre, the Self also shines as Light.  Hence,
Arunachala=Shiva=Effulgence=Heart Centre=Brahman=Self.
Arunachala Siva.   

Apart from three books about which I posted during the last 3
days, one of the other books esteemed by Bhagavan is "Advaita
Bodha Deepika".  This is a condensation of the philosophy of
Sankara and other sages.  Sri Karpatra Swami made this work
into  Sanskrit verse, of 12 chapters.  After him, some great man
rendered this in Tamil prose.  However, for some unknown reasons,
only 8 chapters are available from the Tamil work and the original
Sanskrit.   Sri Munagala Venkatramiah (Sri Ramanananda Saraswati,
the compiler of "Talks") rendered it in English. The English translation
was thorughly corrected and revised in Bhagavan's Presence.  I
request the fellow Forum-members to read this book, if they can
get hold of it.  It is available in Sri Ramanasramam. 
Arunachala Siva.   

Arunachala / Re: Meditation on Mt. Arunachala
« on: June 18, 2008, 10:44:39 AM »
Dear "davgad", I do not know much about other mountains. 
Mountains like Himalayas or Nilgiris (Ooty) my give serenity
due to its climate, calmness, herbs etc.,  But Arunachala is
different.  As per scriptures and Ramana's own words, this is
Shiva Himself. Contemplating on Arunachala is equivalent to
contemplating on Shiva. Try it hard, you will find the results
yourself.  Bhagavan says:  "The mere thought or contemplation
of Arunchala roots out the ego!"   

Thanks non duel for the information.  You can also help
others living in UK and USA, about the translations/original
Sanskrit or Tamil versions of Kaivalya Navaneeta and Yoga
Vashista Sara.  Arunachala Siva. 

When I posted about "Ribhu Gita" on 15th instant, I mentioned
about three books on advaita, which Bhagavan, often referred to
and recommended.  On 16th instant, I posted about "Kailvalya
Navaneeta".  The third book is Yoga Vasishta.  The original "Bruhat
Yoga Vasishta" or "Yoga Vasishta Maha Ramayana" is of 32,000
Sanskrit couplets, attributed to Valmiki.  It is a dialogue between
Sage Vasishta and Rama, on advaita particularly on the purest
form of Ajata vada.  A Kashmiri Pandit, Abhinanda Bharati condensed
it into 6000 Sanskrit couplets and called it Laghu Yoga Vasishta. A
further condensation of this work was made long ago, by an unknown
author into about 230 couplets.  Bhagavan used to refer to Yoga
Vasishata frequently and has even incorporated 6 couplets from it in
His "Supplement to Forty Verses".  These are verses 21 to 27.   A
Tamil version and an English prose translation are available in
Ramansramam.  This information may be useful for fellow Forum-
members.  Members/devotees living in Europe and America can
inform any other transalations available in their countries.  Arunachala

After I posted  about "Kaivalya Navaneeta" on 16th instant,
"non duel" repied stating that this book is available in
North America, through Arunachala Ashrama.  This made
me to write about "Ribhu Gita", about which I originally
posted on 15th instant.  A beautiful free verse English
translation of Ribhu Gita, is available from Society of Abidance
in Truth, 1834 Ocean Street, Santa Ctuz, California 95060 USA.
Phone (831) 425-7287.  Arunachala Siva.

Kaivalya Navaneeta (The Cream of Emancipation) is an advaita
treatise, written in Tamil, about 500 years back, by one Tandavaraya
Swamigal, who hailed from Southern Tamilnadu.  The English
translation is available in Ramansramam.  It is one of many books
translated in German, during 19th century.  This book comprises
of 283 verses and has been recommended by Bhagavan to many
devotees and seekers.  I request my Fellow-Forum members to
find access to this great book and read.  Arunachala Siva.

Bhagavan Ramana, on many occasions recommended three books
on Advaita, to seekers and devotees.  These are:  Jnana Vasishta,
Ribhu Gita and Kaivalya Navaneetham.  Ribhu Gita is embedded in
"Siva Rahasyam", an epic, as advice from Shiva, to Skanda, who in
turn advised it to his disciples.  It is a dialogue between Ribhu and
Nidagha. The original Sanskrit poem has been translated by one Sri
Bhikshu Sastrigal, also known as Ulaganatha Swamigal, a 19th
century Saiva Siddhanta Jnani, into a beautiful Tamil poem of 1924
verses.  Once Bhagavan presented a copy of Tamil Ribhu Gita, to
Smt. Sampurnamma, for reading and when she wanted to be
excused on the ground that  she did  not understand a word of it,
Bhagavan persisted and asked her to read it all the same.  "It does
not matter that you do not understand," He said, "Still it will benefit
you."  Thus Smt. Sampurnamma's life, which had the full potential of
becoming one of sorrow and grief, was transformed in to an active and spiritualized way of life.  The English version, published by Society of
Abidance in Truth, California, is available for Rs 200.00 from Sri
Ramanasramam and a beautiful Tamil version, is also available
for Rs 100.00.  The Tamil version has been published by Sri
Ramanasramam, itself.  I have started reading the Tamil poems,
and it is very satisfying.  I request the fellow Forum-members, to
get the book and read and share their experiences.             

David Godman is informing in his website, that he is planning a
project of translating Muruganar's Tamil work, "Ramana Pada Malai"
a composition of of thousands of verses, describing the grace, love,
compassion and protection that is gained through Ramana's "Padam"
that is, His hallowed Feet.  The website contains a lot of information
and there are various comments about the work by those who have
read the Tamil original.  Bhagavan's Feet is sure to confer various
benefits to seekers who practice self-enquiry.  I request comments
from fellow Forum-members after reading this website and also from
those who have read the original Tamil work. The web address is:  Arunachala Siva.     

Dear "knowone",  Bhagavan Ramana, is an ocean of grace, love and
concern for all living beings.  On 14th April 1950, a couple of hours
before his Maha Niravana, from His bed, when He heard the cooing of
peococks, He asked the attendants:  "Have the peacocks been fed?"
Again, on the same evening, when one Telugu speaking devotee with sobbing and tears, asked : "Abhayam i.e.Protection, please" , He said
in Telugu: "Icchenu", meaning "I have given!"  Arunachala Siva.

Ashrams / Re: staying at ashrama forever
« on: June 12, 2008, 01:05:35 PM »
dear "aparnank", staying permanently within the Ashram is not
possible.  But you can be in the town and visit the ashram as
as possible everyday.  Regarding staying etc., I have given some
details to "knowone" through this Forum.  Please see the postings
and these may help you also.