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Dear Raju, Well said.  Ganapati, is AUM, the primordial sound,
whose purport and meaning has been described by his younger
brother, Skanda to Siva.  Ganapati Muni calls himself as the elder
brother of Bhagavan Sri Ramana, in Ramana Gita.

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vialsam - (18)
« on: September 03, 2008, 07:07:34 PM »
Verse 61:-  The ever lasting Bliss, which has no birth, death,
near and far, pervading all places, most fertile, the means
to cross the ocean of life, is Oneness, the Supreme, fearless
and devoid of all gunas.  This is the Truth, Reality and Brahman,
the one without a second.

Verse 62:-  Here, Sadasiva Brahmendra, has stated in sixtytwo
slokas, by the grace of his guru, the essence of Vedanta.

Verse 63:- Who ever recites this Atma Vidya Vilasam and contemplates
the purport, will merge with Brahama Jnana.  He will attain and
become Perfection and Liberation.

Verse 64:-  This book of Atma Vidya Vilasam is written by Sri
Sadasiva Brahmendra, addressing Brahman, who is none else
his guru, Parama Sivendra, Siva.


Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (17)
« on: September 03, 2008, 06:17:19 PM »
Verse 58:-  As long as the Jnani possesses his body, he lives
to experience of past 'vasanas' and when they are experienced
and annihilated, he will be detached from the bondage of mortal
body, and becomes the Immortal Bliss, Brahman, without
sadecha and videcha, that is good and bad 'vasanas'.

Verse 59:-  There is no other object other than Brahman.  He
is Supreme Bliss.  He is incomparable, imperishable, second
to none, Ananda.  Thus Truth is Knowledge, Bliss and Existence.
The pot is occupied by space and space is occupied in the pot,
and when the pot is broken, the space inside the pot and outside
the pot, becomes One.  Thus the whole universe, regardless of
objects, is pervded with Consciousness.

Verse 60:-  Brahman is most subtle.  The 'I' is nothing but
the perceiver, Brahman.  He pervades in all objects, including
trees.  All experiences, shapes or colours, ignorance or knowledge,
desire or hatred, anger or pleasure, all is Brahman.  He is the
same, in creation, sustenance or dissolution.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (16)
« on: September 03, 2008, 06:04:55 PM »
Verse 54:-  That which cannot be seen or described in words,
that Supreme State and Bliss and most effulgent on that Ancient,
that Brahman is endeared to a Jnani, all the time.  Having got
rid of the bondage, he wanders happily and freely.

Verse 55:-  The realized Jnani, becomes a torch bearer to
the society. He engrosses in Brahman and his mind will become
one with Atman, and enjoys the universe, without desires,
ambitions and without work.  He radiates brilliantly all the time.

Verse 56:-  The Jnani by virtue of the excellent benevolence of
his own preceptor, possessing firm knowledge of Oneness,
totally annihilaes all duality.  He deserts the body all the time,
and rules the earth with his radiance.  He is in the form of
Brahman, the Brahma Swaroopa.

Verse 57:-  The person who knows Brahman becomes Brahman,
the only Real and all the world is unreal.  The Jiva is also Brahman
and is nondual.

to be contd...

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (15)
« on: September 03, 2008, 05:43:03 PM »
Verse 51:-  The Jnani in all matters behaves with balance.
He will not think of the past or will he think of the forthcoming
in future.  Even the present objects, he will not see with any
special intention.  He is unconcerned with past, present and
future.  Come what may, he looks at it with equanimity.

Bhagavan did not bother about the completion of the Maha
Kumbhabishekam, the conscrecation of Mother's Temple,
and when devotees expressed about inadequacy of money,
he remained quiet and told them not to seek any donation,
but accept only amounts that are forthcoming without asking.

Verse 52:-  The Jnani copntrolling all his senses and completely
giving up all material wants, and realizing that the all pervading
Brahman is himself, lives in perfect satisfaction and moves about
in this world.  He enjoys Bhumanda, that is all pervasiveness of
Brahman and enjoys eternal bliss.

Verse 53:-  The Jnani will not give up what has been obtained
him either good or bad.  He has no hatred and endearment.  He
is the Witness, in spite of his body, touching, smelling, tasting,
eating, hearing, walking, sleeping, dreaming, respiring, talking,
excreting , handling, eyelids batting and closing and all acts
done by the organs.  He is totally unconcerned and just enjoys
actions as a Non Entity.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.         

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vialsam - (14)
« on: September 03, 2008, 05:30:32 PM »
Please read Atma Vidya Vilasam (43) as Atma Vidya Vilasam (13).

Verse 46:- The Jnani, wears Akasa, the Space, as his clothes,
he spreads the earth as his bed, keeps his hands as pillows,
embraces the damsel of saintlyhood and enjoys the divine
sleep of bliss happily with complete ecstacy.

Verse 47:- Vasanas, or latent tendencies of the previous birth
will haunt a normal person in the current birth. The Jnani has
no such'samskara' - 'must happenings in the present birth'.
He enjoys with his Pure Intellect, as a damsel, in the palatial
mansion of divine bliss.  He is in Brahman, like the ghee in the
butter, all pervading but without known by others.

Verse 48:- The Jnani cherishes with broadway of the renunciation
by lighting thousand lamps with his self effulgence.  Climbs
the upstairs called the Reality and enjoys the ecstasy of Liberation,
the damsel in the Brahmic state.

Verse 49:-  The Jnani devoid of pleasures, appetite, concern
for his body remains completely satisfied with illumination.
He is Sahaja Sthiti, immense Ananda, the Bliss, without any
bondage.  He is Brahma Ananda at all times.

Verse 50:-  The Brahma Jnani, with his discretion either rejects
or receives anything without intention.  As in unaffected by good
or bad that comes in its way, he never hates them.  Whatever
that has not come to him, he has no regret either.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (43)
« on: September 03, 2008, 04:52:15 PM »
Verse 43:-  The Jnani who has achieved the siddhi (the state)
gets the |Aparoksha Jnana, direct knowledge of Brahman within.
He will rest in Brahama pada, bereft of birth and death, and looks
at the universe as a terrifying one.  He behaves like a lunatic
smearing mud on his body and roams about in the forests all alone.
He is said to be in 'Unmani' state, the state in which he has
found the ruby in his Heart, wherefrom nectar is flowing.  He
always lives in that state, even if he moves about with people
of the world.

Verse 44:-   The self realized Jnani is a yoga siddha, that is,
he will not perceive anything with his eyes or ears and speaks
hardly any word and he is ever in Brahman and there are no
rituals for him.  He stands unaffected like a rock in a storm.

Verse 45:-  The Jnani is devoid of any caste, or clan and has
no possessions, distinction or difference .  He is a Brahma Vetta
and there is no difference between Brahman and Brahma Vetta.
He treats everyone like, even if they are learned priests, common
peasant, a cow or an elephant or a lowly dog.  He is from the
unknown source to which he has returned.   He is devoid of
time and space.  He is a kala-teeta, one who has transcended
the three times (past, present and future) and the space.

to be contd.....

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (12)
« on: September 03, 2008, 04:35:11 PM »
Verse 38:-  The person who has realized the Truth, always
enjoys Sat-Chit-Ananda.  The Jnani who has realized that
only truthful thought is Brahman, can go to any world, lokas,
as he pleases.  He is the King of the saint, even though he
sleeps on rocky structure and gets sound sleep.  He is ever
surrounded by cool breeze and river waters.

Verse 39:-  The Jnani transcends five sheaths, as the gross
is removed from the earth to show the inner plate.  He ever
stays in Brahman, even while food falls on his hand unasked.
He wanders in the streets of the town, as a dead log.

Verse 40:-  The Jnani looks at this entire universe, as a mistaken
snake (for a rope) and immerses himself with the rest as Brahman,
ever without doubt or fear.  He is ever in the Oneness of the
Almighty, and will not stretch his hands for begging food and
eats what comes to him, unmindful of when and how and from
whom it comes.

Verse 41:-  The Jnani is always in the Turiya state and is an
Yogroodha, one who excels in yoga. Brhama Jnani ever lives
in the state of Brahman, and so he does not have to remember
Brahman everytime.

Verse 42:-  The Jnani completely deserts all scriputural injunctions,
like one would desert a boat after crossing the river.  He has
to desert all sastras, rules of conduct, because nothing is required
after Brahma Jnana.  He is like a lamp, steadily burning in a
breezeless atmosphere.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (11)
« on: September 03, 2008, 04:15:08 PM »
Verse 33:-  When gold is absent, there are no gold ornaments.
When the earth is absent, there are no pots and jars. When
there is no ocean, there are no waves and foams.   So also,
in Brahma Jnani, there are not expressive objects outside.
The Jnani is alike a fattened elephant, deserted by all the
other animals in the jungle and moves about freely and climbs
the mountains at his will.

Verse 34:-  In Yoga, one is asked to concentrate on the tip
of one's nose, to arrest thoughts.  They are asked to show
'mudras' - hand posture, to the divine will.    They are further
asked to perform 'namaskaras' - prostrations, to show reverence
to gods.  The Jnani with his silence, as yoga, mudra and namaskara,
stay at the river bund, immersing in meditation and enjoys

Verse 35:-  The attachment to the worldly objects is called
'raga'.  Non attachment is 'viraga'.  In  a Jnani, his renunciation
is raga and abandonment is viraga.  He has no body consciousness,
not clad at all or clad in minimal clothes, will not speak to anyone
anything, fully devoid of thoughts and feelings, will not do any
duties excepting the minimal duties.  He takes any food that
is available to him, moves about freely and sleeps under a tree.

Verse 36:-  Keeping the mind internally absorbed in Brahman,
he remains in Peace of Jnana.  He has got unbrised feeling towards
friends and foes, and there is no harm to him, even if he lives
in deserted houses or wanders on the river banks abetting
long stretches of sand dunes or jungles.

Verse 37:-  The Jnani enjoys lying on the soft bed of soil and
enjoying the cool breeze as if fanned, ever in a peaceful state,
radiating like a full bloom moon.  He is Siva, the Purusha and
the Siddha.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (10)
« on: September 03, 2008, 03:56:25 PM »
Verse 29:- Fear alone generates in one when he feels that
there is some one other than himself.  But Self-Knowledge is a
real vijnana, state, where there is no one other than himself.
Hence Self-Knowledge is like a majestic garden, in which all
the peacocoks stroll without fear.  The Jnani is thus fearless
and in his Presence no one else can also have fear.  He is like
a blue throated Siva, in whose Presence, the blue peacocks

Verse 30:-  The Jnani, deserting the mistaken water (in a mirage)
in the sunny sands, enjoys no delusion. That Jnani drinks the
real water of divine nectar, which is bliss of Brahman.

Verse 31:-  The Jnani in the beautiful garden of Advaita sings
to his heart content, very pleasantly.  He is like a cuckoo,
enjoying the tender leaves of Vedanta.

Verse 32:-  The Jnani has nothing to do with the sins and righteous
acts.  He is like a lion with knowledge and the ignorant elephants
of have been driven away to the wide forests, by his mere Presence.
He is alone in the forest of Brahma-ananda, enjoying the everlasting

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (9)
« on: September 03, 2008, 03:46:23 PM »
Verse 25:-  The Jnani by spreading his rays of wisdom and by his
intellect, catches the imagination of the righteous people and awakens
them.  He is blooming without impurities, without the consciousness
of day and light.  His very Presence and his movements among
the pious is bringing enlightenment to those people, who come
and see him, from far and near.

People came from Europe and America and from all places in India,
to see Bhagavan. 

Verse 26:-  Advaita Siddhi means living in natural state, Sahaja
Samadhi and achieving liberation from that moment of naturalness
He performs all actions in the state of Kaivalya, without differing
from that exalted state, staying in everlasting bliss.  He dispels
the ignorance  like the raising full moon and he is worshipped
even by angels of the heaven.

Verse 27:- By his Presence and touch, he will spread his influence
and grants benevolence to the people.  He by Self-Bliss makes them
feel inner harmony and removes all their ills since he is  a Brahma Jnani.

Verse 28 :-  When mind is engrossed in any particular issue, the
mind gets immense pleasure or pain. Even in pleasures from
the articles, there is ananda, bliss, but it is short lived.  But
a Jnani's Presence is like a Sourabha, (celestrial fragrance) and
spreads that fragrance in all his surroundings.  He is moving in
the celestial garden of Atman  and hence he is ever fragrant.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.   

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (8)
« on: September 03, 2008, 03:33:22 PM »
Verse 21:-  Further, the Jnani, in his Brahmic state engrosses
in Self-Bliss, and stays indefinitely in one place in meditation
freely, enjoys at sometimes, singing and dancing amusingly.

Bhagavan lived for 54 years in Tiruvannamalai.  He authored
books and he entered into conversation with sincere devotees.
He did not sing or dance, but enjoyed the singing of Skanda's
songs by Vallimalai Satchidanada Swami and also the dancing
of Gajannan, (one of the questioners in Ramana Gita), when
the latter came to see Him after several years from Nepal.

Verse 22:- The Brahma Jnani who has acquired the Brahman,
in a thaughtless state, continues to remain without thoughts.
He is liberated with Brahma Jnana and this Jnana is described
as different from dhyana and vignana.  Since he has annihilated
the mind, he stands only as a Spectator, a Witness, a Sakshi,
for all things happening around him.

Verse 23:-  Some great people even from the very beginning of
their practic, try to tame the mind.  They make a lot of introspection.
The mind is like a restless deer, wandering here and there in the
jungle. He makes every effort to tame that mind, with his mind!
But only who has tamed the mind with the mind can become a
Brhama Jnani.

Bhagavan has said that taming the mind with the mind, is like
catching the thief with the thief.

Verse 24:- The mind has to be controlled and it is like a wild
tiger which has to be killed only the by the arrow of knowledge. 
When one purifies the mind with his sinless actions and penance
and by elminating the self aggrandisement and egoism through
self knowledge, he merges with Atman.  The mind can be
annhiliated only by pure self knowledge to merge in the Self.
He must be devoid of fear, since Abhaya or fearlessness is only
Brahman  He will move anywhere in the universe, without any
variation and differentiation without fear, in a thoughtless state.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (7)
« on: September 03, 2008, 02:08:53 PM »
Verse 17:-  He goes into the stance of complete renunciation,
totally negating mundane objects and pleasures.  He may even
abandon his daily duties.  He remains a Witness or Spectator or
Sakshi for happenings around him. The Brahma vaetta is one
who is totally renounced but performs minimum daily duties.
The Brahma vidwara deserts even these duties as per scriptures.
The Brahma Vidwaryeeys is totally unaware of his surroundings. 
The Brahma Vidwarishta, is always in the bliss but only attending
to his food and thirst, when called upon to do so.

Bhagavan explains these states in Talks.

Verse 18:- Since the entire universe is an illusion for him,
the Jivan Mukta, keeps his cool and will not be wondered
even if the sun becomes cool, the moon becomes hot and the
water emits fire!  Like a sperm and an ovum, before oraganogenesis,
he has no worry and anxiety, ever free from fear and sorrow.

Verse 19:-  The JIvan Mukta is ever without ego, but even devas,
the celestial beings will worhsip for his power will shake the
entire universe. In that blissfulm state all the periods of past,
present and future merge in him.

Verse 20:-  Enjoying at all times aboslute peace. he is Saya-
jnana - ananda- roopa.  He will not take any pride in his
actions, even if the insentient objects like ornaments and the
lamps, take pride in their actions!

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (6)
« on: September 03, 2008, 01:50:03 PM »
Verse 13:-  This illusion followed by the consequences of grief
or pleasure has nothing to do with a Jnani and they are totally
absent in him.  After realization the Jnani is internally happy
and enjoys the bliss both within and outside.  He concives no
unhappy state and he exerts no revengeful action on anyone.

Verse 14:- The sage behaves like an innocent child unaffected
by egoism and the belief of individual self.  Whether honoured
or insulted, rebuked, angered, he sees no distinction.  Having
immersed in the divine nectar of 'niratisayanada', he is totally
unconcerned about any matter. Due to vasanas, the actions
may come about for a while.  But he transcends them.

Verse 15:-  The sage abandons all duties.  Even begging alms in
the midst of people, he averts.  He moves about in deserted places,
taking only food that is made available to him.    All thoughts have
disappeared, since he has annihilated the mind.   If anyone
disturbs him, he leaves that place.  Even the whole earth looks
like an open yard of his own house and the ocean looks like a rivulet.

Verse 16:-  Having tasted the eternal bliss, he will not move from
his place, for anything else.  Without mind, thought, intellect and
ego, he becomes an introvert  and prefers to be silent always.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.       

Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (5)
« on: September 03, 2008, 01:04:04 PM »
verse 11:- All the five elements are said to have originated
one from another, but one is not above the other in their
cause.  Only the power of Brahman has created all these.
They are also not different from Brahman because Brahman
and his power are one and the same.  Contemplating at all
times, in his way, the yogi enjoys incessant nirvikalpa samadhi.
It is from the desire of Brahman, that all these creations have
originated.  But again his desires are not different from him.

Verse 12:-  The whole universe appears like a dream. Whatever
be its composition, nothing stands in the realization of the Self.
He, (the Jnani) moves about freely in all his acts, with this
understanding undeterred.  He has no fixed dislikes and likes
and he harbours no ambitions. He never considers any other
Jiva, as his enemy. He is above pride and pleasure, and he
never enjoys any fleeting joys.  He is unconcerned amidst
wealth and comforts.   He lives as renouncer amidst all material
enjoyments and acquisitions.  He develops no feelings amidst
all difficulties and adversities.   He is ever peaceful in the midst
of foes.  Even in insults, he is unaffected, and he has only
forgiveness, even for those who have insulted him.

Bhagavan Sri Ramana is the epitome of all that is elaborated
in the above verse.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.