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47431
The teachings of Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi / Re: Bhagavan in Dream
« on: September 05, 2008, 10:57:10 AM »
Dear Sankar and srkudai,  Dreams and visions are not substitues
for merger with Bhagavan.  But they can be useful as our prayers
to personal gods, outside.

Arunachala Siva. 

47432
Dear gangajal and srkudai,  Yes.  Surrender is as difficult as
self enquiry.   We are all doing partial surrenders thinking it
is surrender.  Total surrender is something quite different.  Saint
Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvachakam, Tiruvembavai,

" O Siva, I am your maiden, I am subservient to you always.
Our breasts will not rest in anyone's else's shoulders excepting yours!
After that, what if, if it is day or night?  I do not see either.
I do not care, even if the sun rises in any direction! "

Arunachala Siva.
 

47433
General Discussion / Re: Freedom from occupation
« on: September 04, 2008, 05:52:26 PM »
Dear srkudai and Raju, Yes.  Suddha manas operates from
the Self and is different from the thoughts of the ordinary
persons.

Arunachala Siva.


47434
General Discussion / Re: Freedom from occupation
« on: September 04, 2008, 02:15:07 PM »
Dear srkudai,  Yes, Thoughts do spring up after realization.  It
is from Suddha manas, for helping others and posterity.  Sankara
wrote many books, composed wonderful verses like  Soundarya
Lahari and Sivananda Lahari.  It the Self realized people could
not have thoughts, then the disciples and future generations
would not have any teachings, from them.  The Suddha Manas
operates in Sahaja Samadhi.

Arunachala Siva. 

47435
Dear Raju, Very nice.  I also remember his menstruation, when
he was playing the role of Radha.

Arunachala Siva.

47436
Dear srkudai,  Yes.  Sri RK suggested to act like noble souls,
gods etc.,  Even in normal worldly life, we see mediocre students
keeping the brilliant students as role models, following such
pracices like studying at regular hours, doing the homework
promptly etc., and impoving in their studies.  Many Western
devotees kept fellow seekers or Bhagavan as role models and
stopped eating meat.  Devaraja Mudaliar also adopted vegetarianism
like that.  Many ashramites got up in early mornings, which was
not their usual practice, by following Bhagavan and other Ashramites.

Sri RK, did that with intense bhavana.  It is said that he grew
a tail when he was meditating or acting like Hanuman.  During
his Islamic sadhana, he literally forgot Kali and other Hindu gods
and hated idol worship.  Intense conviction is essential.  Ribhu
Gita also says the same.  A worm inside the cocoon, intensely
meditated on the mother, and came out of the cocoon as a fly!
Saint Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvachakam:  "Natakathal
un-adiyar pol nadithu, veedahathe puguvan vizhaii hindren!"
"I am acting as your devotee and am eager to rush to Sivaloka!"

Arunachala Siva.   

47437
Dear Raju, Yes.  The Jnani is like a shuttle in the weaving
machine.  The weaver is Brahman, and the Jnani moves here
and there, or stays put, as the the weaver, Brahman wants.
He has not thinking or action of his own.  This what Saint
Manikkavachagar says in Tiruvachakam, Decad of Surrender.

Arunachala Siva.

47438
Dear Raju,  Yes.  Bhagavan Sri Ramana, is the epitome of
Ajati.  Every characteristic that is mentioned in Advaita
Vedanta sciptures, can be seen in Bhagavan Ramana.

Arunachala Siva.

47439
Dear Raju, Yes. It cannot be touched or spoken about.  That
is why, Vedas try to reach It and come back failing.

Arunachala Siva.

47440
Dear Raju,  Daksinamoorthy, Siva, is sitting under banyan tree,
which is called vada-ala-maram, in Tamil.  Here 'vada' means
uthra, the North.  He is the Spiritual North Pole, for all seekers,
His teaching is Silence.   And the sincere seekers understood his
silence and though that the Brahma tattva, the principle of Brahman.
Their doubts are cleared and they got a moksha-sadhanam, the
way to Liberation.  This is puranic meaning, though esoterically
he is formless.

Arunachala Siva. 

47441
Dear Raju, Well said.  Ganapati, is AUM, the primordial sound,
whose purport and meaning has been described by his younger
brother, Skanda to Siva.  Ganapati Muni calls himself as the elder
brother of Bhagavan Sri Ramana, in Ramana Gita.

Arunachala Siva.

47442
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vialsam - (18)
« on: September 03, 2008, 07:07:34 PM »
Verse 61:-  The ever lasting Bliss, which has no birth, death,
near and far, pervading all places, most fertile, the means
to cross the ocean of life, is Oneness, the Supreme, fearless
and devoid of all gunas.  This is the Truth, Reality and Brahman,
the one without a second.

Verse 62:-  Here, Sadasiva Brahmendra, has stated in sixtytwo
slokas, by the grace of his guru, the essence of Vedanta.

Verse 63:- Who ever recites this Atma Vidya Vilasam and contemplates
the purport, will merge with Brahama Jnana.  He will attain and
become Perfection and Liberation.

Verse 64:-  This book of Atma Vidya Vilasam is written by Sri
Sadasiva Brahmendra, addressing Brahman, who is none else
his guru, Parama Sivendra, Siva.

CONCLUDED.

Arunachala Siva.   

47443
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (17)
« on: September 03, 2008, 06:17:19 PM »
Verse 58:-  As long as the Jnani possesses his body, he lives
to experience of past 'vasanas' and when they are experienced
and annihilated, he will be detached from the bondage of mortal
body, and becomes the Immortal Bliss, Brahman, without
sadecha and videcha, that is good and bad 'vasanas'.

Verse 59:-  There is no other object other than Brahman.  He
is Supreme Bliss.  He is incomparable, imperishable, second
to none, Ananda.  Thus Truth is Knowledge, Bliss and Existence.
The pot is occupied by space and space is occupied in the pot,
and when the pot is broken, the space inside the pot and outside
the pot, becomes One.  Thus the whole universe, regardless of
objects, is pervded with Consciousness.

Verse 60:-  Brahman is most subtle.  The 'I' is nothing but
the perceiver, Brahman.  He pervades in all objects, including
trees.  All experiences, shapes or colours, ignorance or knowledge,
desire or hatred, anger or pleasure, all is Brahman.  He is the
same, in creation, sustenance or dissolution.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.   


47444
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (16)
« on: September 03, 2008, 06:04:55 PM »
Verse 54:-  That which cannot be seen or described in words,
that Supreme State and Bliss and most effulgent on that Ancient,
that Brahman is endeared to a Jnani, all the time.  Having got
rid of the bondage, he wanders happily and freely.

Verse 55:-  The realized Jnani, becomes a torch bearer to
the society. He engrosses in Brahman and his mind will become
one with Atman, and enjoys the universe, without desires,
ambitions and without work.  He radiates brilliantly all the time.

Verse 56:-  The Jnani by virtue of the excellent benevolence of
his own preceptor, possessing firm knowledge of Oneness,
totally annihilaes all duality.  He deserts the body all the time,
and rules the earth with his radiance.  He is in the form of
Brahman, the Brahma Swaroopa.

Verse 57:-  The person who knows Brahman becomes Brahman,
the only Real and all the world is unreal.  The Jiva is also Brahman
and is nondual.

to be contd...

Arunachala Siva.

47445
Translations and Commentaries by Forum Members / Atma Vidya Vilasam - (15)
« on: September 03, 2008, 05:43:03 PM »
Verse 51:-  The Jnani in all matters behaves with balance.
He will not think of the past or will he think of the forthcoming
in future.  Even the present objects, he will not see with any
special intention.  He is unconcerned with past, present and
future.  Come what may, he looks at it with equanimity.

Bhagavan did not bother about the completion of the Maha
Kumbhabishekam, the conscrecation of Mother's Temple,
and when devotees expressed about inadequacy of money,
he remained quiet and told them not to seek any donation,
but accept only amounts that are forthcoming without asking.

Verse 52:-  The Jnani copntrolling all his senses and completely
giving up all material wants, and realizing that the all pervading
Brahman is himself, lives in perfect satisfaction and moves about
in this world.  He enjoys Bhumanda, that is all pervasiveness of
Brahman and enjoys eternal bliss.

Verse 53:-  The Jnani will not give up what has been obtained
him either good or bad.  He has no hatred and endearment.  He
is the Witness, in spite of his body, touching, smelling, tasting,
eating, hearing, walking, sleeping, dreaming, respiring, talking,
excreting , handling, eyelids batting and closing and all acts
done by the organs.  He is totally unconcerned and just enjoys
actions as a Non Entity.

to be contd....

Arunachala Siva.